The awkwardness when an Arts student talks about their "future prospects" ‎

smk89

Ghost Estate wrote: »

arts students smoke weed and shag lesbians for 3 years and for their final year they hand up an essay about how doing so changed their life and they get the degree.

Lies make the baby jesus cry

Mardy Bum

I think most of the slagging comes from the huge diversity of subjects in Arts. Celtic Civ, Archaeology etc subjects like that do not really command a great deal of respect from the masses for whatever reason.

Try doing economics for 3 years in an Arts degree and see how 'dossy' it is.

curlzy

I have a BA, but I did it at night while working full time, what does that mean? Like I already had a job but then I got an Arts degree, by rights should I give up my job to join the dole queue?:D You know, just so you'd feel comfortable slagging me off? : )

policarp

Arse students are queer.
So are arts students...
B.A.

Riamfada

Sure the government pays for it all anyways.

pretty*monster

There's a recession on, the Law and Architecture grads are unemployable as well.
I can see how they might resent the fact that I spent three years idly reading interesting books, drinking to excess, and generally ****ing around only to graduate and find that, yeah, actually sounding clever does help you get ahead.

neaideabh

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

In fairness now it doesn't take that long to write 1000 words. I have to do a couple of 1000 word lab reports every week and it doesn't take a heck of a lot of time.

and Mr Gates gave us useful tools such as "cut and paste"!

neaideabh

Ghost Estate wrote: »

After the budget

The graduate with a Science degree asks, "How do we prove fries even existed?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How do we make fries out of nothing?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "When will we be able to afford fries again?"
The graduate with an Arts degree asks, "What are these fries things you speak of?"

The graduate with a Science degree asks, "How do we derive fries from potatoes?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How do we make fries more tensile?"
The graduate with an Accounting.......

Hold on, it's not funny anymore!

kumate_champ07

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

In fairness now it doesn't take that long to write 1000 words. I have to do a couple of 1000 word lab reports every week and it doesn't take a heck of a lot of time.

lab reports are easy, and I presume you do them in english not french?

kumate_champ07

youre supposed to go to Art college to become a better artist, the degree doesnt actually matter unless you want to get a good teaching job.

St._Andalou

Subjects such as economics, English, foreign languages, mathematics, politics and geography are clearly of no use in the modern world.

:rolleyes:

St._Andalou

Funnily enough, the average starting graduate salary for philosophy and languages in 2011 is higher than law. The starting salary for English graduates is just a little bit less than those who studied architecture and history graduates start their jobs on a higher wage than those who studied pharmacy.

This makes interesting reading.

Who knew?

ya-ba-da-ba-doo

beccabeccabecca wrote: »

Do your lab reports have to be written in another language?

Also, that's an example of one of the many assignments an Arts student could have. Not the only one they would ever have.

An average week of assignments for me would be two translations (one in Spanish, one in French), grammar worksheets for both languages, written expression assignments for both, language lab preparation and then general study. I also do Creative Writing (BA Connect), so I'll normally have two assignments per week from that.

I'm not trying to say "OMG Arts is sooooooooo much more difficult than anything!", but it does have a decent work load.

You're studying a language! Stop complaining about having to write in that language!!

Memnoch

I should pretend to be surprised at how narrow minded and judgemental people are, but I can't be bothered so...

Did not do an arts degree though I have nothing but respect for those brave enough to follow their passion and nothing but disdain for those who mock them for it.

evercloserunion

St._Andalou wrote: »

Funnily enough, the average starting graduate salary for philosophy and languages in 2011 is higher than law. The starting salary for English graduates is just a little bit less than those who studied architecture and history graduates start their jobs on a higher wage than those who studied pharmacy.

This makes interesting reading.

Who knew?

I don't see why this should come as a big surprise, many professions tend to have lesser rewards at the start but greater rewards later on. Law is one of these I think. The average starting salary is probably brought down by high unemployment and a lot of people (especially barristers) making SFA in the first few years of practice.

The big mistake people make is in assuming that arts students can't find jobs. In fact they have a lot of choice if they are willing to put themselves out there. A lot of them go into business or do a conversion course into one of the professions. I'd say a lot of people who are currently looking down on arts students here will probably end up working for one some day.

pretty*monster

evercloserunion wrote: »

I'd say a lot of people who are currently looking down on arts students here will probably end up working for one some day.

Agreed. Both my manager and the director of my unit have BAs. Unless you're entering the professions or a specialised field the subject of your degree is largely irrelevant. Employers mostly want to know if you're intelligent enough to get a degree and what your previous work experience is.

Black Swan

Thought at first the "future prospects" thread title was going to be about whom some painter or photographer was to have in the buff posing for them. Now that would have been fun to chat about!

Handsome Bob

Nowt like a recession to bring out the arrogance in people.

mfceiling

beccabeccabecca wrote: »

I'm an Arts student. I joined the group .

I do hate the generalisation that people doing Arts are stupid wasters living off daddy's money who have no idea what they want to do in their lives. I got 565 points in the LC. I've known I wanted to teach since I was around eight, and more specifically that I wanted to teach languages at second level since I was fourteen. Like pretty much every student out there, I procrastinate like a champion but I still put in the work to keep my grades high. And there are several others just like me...but still everyone associates Arts with dossers :rolleyes:.

I know several Commerce, Law and Science students who would fit the generalisation applied to Arts students, yet they escape ridcule because their course is "hard" and "valid". Think Arts is easy? Get back to me when you've written a two thousand word essay in French discussing naturalist fiction and its impact on literary movements or memorised the timeline of Ancient Rome from its origins to its eventual downfall.

Wouldn't be arsed tbh..........relevance of said essays in real world.......none

Ostrom

Princess Peach wrote: »

Why do a course that you will almost never get a job out of?

They go and study languages and English and history, so that they can sound smart in conversations. And they will have many of these conversations with each other in the dole line

I quit civil engineering a few years back to do arts, may as well have wiped my arse with the engineering degree. And now i have a job. As do all my friends who graduated with me. Hmm.....

JonJoeDali

The ignorance of some people with regards arts degrees is astounding.

The bile is usually from people who don't know the difference between a qualification and an education (probably because they don't have one themselves).

I say this as an engineer. Arts students are excellent communicators, have great empathy (they've written lots of essays and can put themselves in the mind of someone else), have good attention to detail and are literate. I cringe reading documents written by cocky techies who think they know everything.

Herb Powell

I sense severe butthurt over course hours

Pherekydes

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Over the past 48 hours a phenomena...

A phenomena? Really?

Posted like a true BSchitter.

Sonnenblumen

It's much more about how you apply the degree than what the degree is. There's always been banter between the faculties, the earlier post about the loo roll was very funny.

Good luck to all grads!

coffee_cake

Pherekydes wrote: »

A phenomena? Really?

Posted like a true BSchitter.

Watch out, "a women" will be next

Mark200

It's just a joke to be fair...

I think about four of my friends joined that group on facebook, three of them are arts students...

Logical Fallacy

bythewoods wrote: »

Ah just a bit'a random banter really. Quite sure most people don't resent Arts Students...

Most people can't seem to tell the difference between Arts students and students who study Art.

pakb1ue

Most degrees are the same difficulty like the reason people pick a course is because they are interested in that area.

If I had done a Arts degree while picking English, Sociology and Greek & Roman I would have struggled big time and I doubt I would have even gotten a pass mark in any of them thus failing and dropping out. I picked a course that played to my strengths which just happened to be a course with the highest drop out rate in Ireland and ended up getting a 2.1 in the end of it.

Even thought I have this degree I am still finding it difficult to find a job even with my Science degree along with most of my now former class mates.

The one thing that gets on my tits is that some of the Arts students got away with murder such as getting away without doing a Thesis/Final Year Project or having it only worth 5% of their final mark while mine was 25%. Also the hole hours thing like they would have 10/15 hours less then me a week. :mad:

Mardy Bum

pakb1ue wrote: »

. Also the hole hours thing like they would have 10/15 hours less then me a week. :mad:

The reason for that is mainly because information is not spoon fed to students and its mostly your own research that gets you through. Law has the same amount of hours shock horror.

Toes

I'm currently doing an M Eng, but i'd love to go back at some stage and do arts, i'd like to study something like french or economics or something.

No need to be hating on arts, everyone has their own qualities etc...