The Increasingly Depressing Financial Crisis Thread

Pigwidgeon

Sure the world is ending in 2012 anyway, who needs to worry about money. We'll just borrow like crazy and go wild in the meantime. Nothing to worry about, it'll be grand. :rolleyes:

Wolfe Tone

Protester has been run down now...

Anyone feeling motivated to get out and protest?

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I'm going to join some sort of revolutionary guerrilla force. That should be a bitta craic.

Pigwidgeon

If anyone's interested. This protest seems like a fantastic idea. You can protest about the bailout AND protest to legalise cannabis at the same time!

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

kateos2 wrote: »

If anyone's interested. This protest seems like a fantastic idea. You can protest about the bailout AND protest to legalise cannabis at the same time!

Im there if I dont have exams... Sounds like my kinda thing!

Insect Overlord

Protesting this wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference, except to fan the flames of the fire that is Ireland's foolishness (from a European perspective).

As for a guerilla force, can ye take care of the gang-feuds/drug-crime problems first?

amacachi

Go on the Vincent Brown!

Wolfe Tone

kateos2 wrote: »

If anyone's interested. This protest seems like a fantastic idea. You can protest about the bailout AND protest to legalise cannabis at the same time!

That sounds like the most retarded protest ever.

THIS EVENT CAN BE AN ADD-ON TO STORM THE DAIL LET US OCCUPY TOWN AND BRING ABOUT THE DESRUCTION OF THIR GOVERNMENT

lol!

For the IMF money is created from thin air to bring a nation to the ground.THIS IS HAPPENING TO US TODAY NOW GET UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
We need to Become a Nation once again, We propose re-introduction of an old currency... let us Print the Punt once again

Translation: WE KNOW NUFFING, LETS STICK A REPUBLICAN PHRASE IN HERE BOSS

Dear god, I hope that is a piss take!!

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

On a closer reading of the protest dscription its fairly silly.. But sure we could use a bitta craic.

EDIT: My guerrilla force will take on all of Irelands problems including criminal gangs. And deli staff who put too much ketchup on my roll.

jumpguy

kev9100 wrote: »

Gotta love your optimism.

Well, in fairness, doom and gloom isn't gonna help anything at all at all. We've gotta stick together and hold our heads. We'll get through this "crisis" as a country. And nobody is gonna starve. As long as you all your organs working as they should, you haven't much to worry about.

KnifeWRENCH

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Protester has been run down now...

Yikes. :eek: Has that been confirmed now, yeah? Saw someone tweeting that a ministerial car had run down a protester but didn't see confirmation anywhere else. Was it actually a ministerial car that was involved?

almostnever

Budget 2k10. Mad craic will be had.

Wolfe Tone

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

Yikes. :eek: Has that been confirmed now, yeah? Saw someone tweeting that a ministerial car had run down a protester but didn't see confirmation anywhere else. Was it actually a ministerial car that was involved?

I think I know one of the creators of that facebook protest page... no way in hell he wrote that.

storm2811

There's one thing I really hate about the general attitude in the country, people whinge and complain but when someone mentions a protest it's shot down!

I'm not targeting anyone here, it's just the general attitude, sure it might make some difference, who knows? If not it's still a good way to get your opinion/anger out there, it's certainly better than sitting at home and complaining.

Anywho, really pissed with those gimps today, the whole week "We're not getting a bailout" even though every single person in the fcuking country knew it was coming, we're not morons. Completely lying to the entire country, and even this evening in the address to the nation, he thanks everyone but the Irish people, the ones who got him in power in the first place, his own fcuking people like.
Avoiding every controversial question thrown at him too.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

I think any protest should focus on forcing a general election, not on preventing the bailout seeing as thats probably unavoidable.

amacachi

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Anyone feeling motivated to get out and protest?

Not really, I don't care any more, it's too late now.

Insect Overlord

For most people, protests involve travelling to a town or cities with a large crowd, chanting buzz-words and waving placards with simple slogans on them. The only thing those "protests" achieve are raised awareness levels of a problem. As we already know, making people aware of a problem is not the same as solving it. Instead it should be used as a first step towards finding a proper solution.

There is also the issue of protest marches being usurped by other interest groups, like when those radical Socialists made a mockery of the recent student protest.

What this country needs is new leadership. I haven't posted on the recent Politics thread because I don't particularly identify with any of the party lines. I don't see the point in voting for a party motivated by events 90 years ago (FF, FG, SF). What I think we need is for key positions in Government to be filled by people who are actually qualified in those sectors. Bodies should be run by people who will know what is needed to make them run efficiently in order to maximise their effectiveness. Someone who's voted into Government because they get pot-holes filled in on local roads, for example, may be great at serving their constituents but will not necessarily do a good job in leading the country.

How many current Government Ministers actually have life experience/qualifications in their respective departments anyway?

unknown13

The government are too stubborn to call a general election and they are the only ones that can a general election. The country is in the right shíts because of them, the only chance that a general election could have been called was when Bertie left office, he could of called it then but he didn't. Everyone get over it, we will not be electing a new government until 2012

almostnever

Insect Overlord wrote: »

How many current Government Ministers actually have life experience/qualifications in their respective departments anyway?

I doubt if Mary Coughlan has spent a day in school in her life.:pac:

It'll be interesting to see if people push for an election now. Seems even more likely, considering the government basically lied to everyone this weekend...

Grindylow

If only we had all put our money into Gringott's. We'd have no
recession then!

unknown13

almostnever wrote: »

I doubt if Mary Coughlan has spent a day in school in her life.:pac:

Apparently Mary Coughlan has a Social Science degree, which is amusing considering she was one of the worst Ministers for Social Welfare in the history of the state.

almostnever

unknown13 wrote: »

Apparently Mary Coughlan has a Social Science degree, which is amusing considering she was one of the worst Ministers for Social Welfare in the history of the state.

She is absolutely atrocious and possibly the most inept Minister we have, IMHO. Which is saying a lot.

kev9100

unknown13 wrote: »

The government are too stubborn to call a general election and they are the only ones that can a general election. The country is in the right shíts because of them, the only chance that a general election could have been called was when Bertie left office, he could of called it then but he didn't. Everyone get over it, we will not be electing a new government until 2012

The Dail can force a general election if the government loses the confidence of the Dail. Atm, the gov. magority is two and that will almost certainly go dwn after the by-election on Friday. There are also more by-elections to be held and a lot of scared FF tds who might vote against the Gov. if they think it will help them keep their seat. A general election will happen very soon.

unknown13

almostnever wrote: »

She is absolutely atrocious and possibly the most inept Minister we have, IMHO. Which is saying a lot.

I agree, she is an absolutely awful and a clueless minister. She is probably the one of the worst Tanaiste's ever but Harney and Mc Dowell were bad aswell though.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

According to Coughlan Einstein came up with the theory of Evolution.

Namlub

Sure it's all of our faults anyway, we all lost the run of ourselves. I know my spending was out of control when I was 13 <_<

unknown13

kev9100 wrote: »

The Dail can force a general election if the government loses the confidence of the Dail. Atm, the gov. magority is two and that will almost certainly go dwn after the by-election on Friday. There are also more by-elections to be held and a lot of scared FF tds who might vote against the Gov. if they think it will help them keep their seat. A general election will happen very soon.

Dublin South and something else is vacant. The government have said early next year but I genuinely think they will hold out as long as possible

jumpguy

Ole Coughlan actually said on A Week In Politics that the Irish people don't understand what's going on. I mean, you couldn't get more insulting and ignorant than that tbh.

unknown13

jumpguy wrote: »

Ole Coughlan actually said on A Week In Politics that the Irish people don't understand what's going on. I mean, you couldn't get more insulting and ignorant than that tbh.

I hope when she said Irish people she included herself in that statement aswell.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Yeah my family acknowledge that their spending was out of control. Buying new cars every year, holiday house in Spain, always trying to look better than the neighbiours...

Except we never done any of that. At no point did my family 'lose the run of themselves'. Sure a lot of people did. But most didnt.