The Increasingly Depressing Financial Crisis Thread

randylonghorn · 22-11-2010 1:15am

unknown13 wrote: »

Apparently Mary Coughlan has a Social Science degree, which is amusing considering she was one of the worst Ministers for Social Welfare in the history of the state.

She really needs to be made Minister Responsible for Litter on the Blasket Islands, tbh. *Personally* responsible, including living there full-time!

Insect Overlord · 22-11-2010 1:19am

Send her off to Inis Mhic Aoibhleáin!

We need to keep the Great Blasket free from her ilk to stimulate tourism.

randylonghorn · 22-11-2010 1:50am

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Send her off to Inis Mhic Aoibhleáin!

Come to think of it, it didn't work for Haughey! >.<

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 22-11-2010 1:54am

Send her to Inishkea... Its even more isolated and nobodys heard of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inishkea_Islands

unknown13 · 22-11-2010 1:58am

Send her to Iceland or Greece to show her what happens when your country goes broke. That should open her eyes but it probably won't.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 22-11-2010 2:05am

unknown13 wrote: »

Send her to Iceland or Greece down the road to show her what happens when your country goes broke. That should open her eyes but it probably won't.

FYP.

unknown13 · 22-11-2010 2:08am

Her constituency isn't in Dublin, it is in Donegal. She would probably have to go 20 miles to see somewhere where the state of the country is clearly evident.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 22-11-2010 2:30am

unknown13 wrote: »

Her constituency isn't in Dublin, it is in Donegal. She would probably have to go 20 miles to see somewhere where the state of the country is clearly evident.

What do you mean?

kev9100 · 22-11-2010 2:09pm

Looks like the government has collapsed.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1122/politics.htm

Thank God for that. Now...... how do I register to vote?

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 22-11-2010 2:29pm

kev9100 wrote: »

Looks like the government has collapsed.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1122/politics.htm

Thank God for that. Now...... how do I register to vote?

The link to the form is there... You have to do it by friday.

http://www.checktheregister.ie/

Wolfe Tone · 22-11-2010 2:30pm

The two independents have withdrawn their support apparently.

kev9100 · 22-11-2010 2:35pm

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

The two independents have withdrawn their support apparently.

Does this mean they will vote against the budget or do they just want an election after it?

KnifeWRENCH · 22-11-2010 3:41pm

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

The two independents have withdrawn their support apparently.

Surprised that Healy-Rae has withdrawn his support. Cowen must have refused to give him the items on his shopping list then.

22-11-2010 3:44pm

kev9100 wrote: »

Does this mean they will vote against the budget or do they just want an election after it?

Michael Lowry said he was most likely going to vote against it. Healy-Rae has apparently lost all confidence in them, so he'll may do so too.

Cian92 · 22-11-2010 3:45pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

The link to the form is there... You have to do it by friday.

http://www.checktheregister.ie/

By Friday? I sent one off a few weeks ago in anticipation, and I am still not on the register... Now I thought it was freepost, so if it isn't that could explain. Do I have to go through all that long rig ma roll again?

sock puppet · 22-11-2010 8:23pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

The link to the form is there... You have to do it by friday.

http://www.checktheregister.ie/

That's just the draft register. You can register to vote at any time during the year.

Insect Overlord · 22-11-2010 10:01pm

Yes, but you have to be registered 15 days before a General Election. The Green Party are talking about having one in January, but who knows - it could be sooner than that. Better safe and registered than sorry!

unknown13 · 22-11-2010 10:16pm

unknown13 at 23.25, Yesterday wrote: »

The government are too stubborn to call a general election and they are the only ones that can a general election. The country is in the right shíts because of them, the only chance that a general election could have been called was when Bertie left office, he could of called it then but he didn't. Everyone get over it, we will not be electing a new government until 2012

Don't I look like a right idiot now.

sock puppet · 22-11-2010 10:21pm

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Yes, but you have to be registered 15 days before a General Election. The Green Party are talking about having one in January, but who knows - it could be sooner than that. Better safe and registered than sorry!

Yeah it could be a lot sooner. Could be later too. Maybe if they guillotine parts of the finance bill they'll have it through the Dail by then?

Anyone hear Gilmore on the news earlier saying that we should be making less cuts now that the bailout has been agreed? What a bufoon. And this guy thinks he should have been negotiating the bailout... I hope he doesn't become Taoiseach.

kev9100 · 22-11-2010 10:44pm

kev9100 wrote: »

The Dail can force a general election if the government loses the confidence of the Dail. Atm, the gov. magority is two and that will almost certainly go dwn after the by-election on Friday. There are also more by-elections to be held and a lot of scared FF tds who might vote against the Gov. if they think it will help them keep their seat. A general election will happen very soon.

:cool:

MavisDavis · 22-11-2010 11:03pm

kev9100 wrote: »

The Dail can force a general election if the government loses the confidence of the Dail. Atm, the gov. magority is two and that will almost certainly go dwn after the by-election on Friday. There are also more by-elections to be held and a lot of scared FF tds who might vote against the Gov. if they think it will help them keep their seat. A general election will happen very soon.

Actually, the Dáil can force the Taoiseach to seek dissolution of the Dáil from the President and the President can choose to refuse a dissolution. It's a power that's never been used before (Robinson subtly hinted she'd invoke this right if Reynold's sought a dissolution in 1994, that's why the FF/Labour coalition turned into a FG/Labour coalition with no election).

Just sayin'. Ha, this is like studying.. :P

Also, registering to vote is super easy, lads. Go to your county council's website, go to the electoral register section, fill in the form and BAM! you are now registered to vote. At least that's how it worked for me on the Louth County Council website last year!

Actually, the draft register has been published for next year, so you'll probably need to go to your local Garda station/post office/library/administration office to get a form to be on the supplementary register. That register stays open until 15 (working!) days before an election takes place, like IO said.

Register. Vote. Be awesome.

unknown13 · 22-11-2010 11:06pm

MavisDavis wrote: »

Actually, the Dáil can force the Taoiseach to seek dissolution of the Dáil from the President and the President can choose to refuse a dissolution. It's a power that's never been used before (Robinson subtly hinted she'd invoke this right if Reynold's sought a dissolution in 1994, that's why the FF/Labour coalition turned into a FG/Labour coalition with no election).

Just sayin'. Ha, this is like studying.. :P

Also, registering to vote is super easy, lads. Go to your county council's website, go to the electoral register section, fill in the form and BAM! you are now registered to vote. At least that's how it worked for me on the Louth County Council website last year!

Actually, the draft register has been published for next year, so you'll probably need to go to your local Garda station/post office/library/administration office to get a form to be on the supplementary register. That register stays open until 15 (working!) days before an election takes place, like IO said.

Register. Vote. Be awesome.

More like John O Dowd's constitutional law lectures. We will be hearing about it tomorrow what will be happening.

MavisDavis · 22-11-2010 11:09pm

unknown13 wrote: »

More like John O Dowd's constitutional law lectures. We will be hearing about it tomorrow what will be happening.

That was more John Coakley's Introduction to Irish Politics. They overlap a lot!

kev9100 · 22-11-2010 11:10pm

MavisDavis wrote: »

Actually, the Dáil can force the Taoiseach to seek dissolution of the Dáil from the President and the President can choose to refuse a dissolution. It's a power that's never been used before (Robinson subtly hinted she'd invoke this right if Reynold's sought a dissolution in 1994, that's why the FF/Labour coalition turned into a FG/Labour coalition with no election).

Just sayin'. Ha, this is like studying.. :P

Yeah, I think my lecturer talked about something like that last week. I doubt Mcaleese would do what Robinson did though.

Do you do politics in UCD by any chance?

MavisDavis · 22-11-2010 11:14pm

kev9100 wrote: »

Yeah, I think my lecturer talked about something like that last week. I doubt Mcaleese would do what Robinson did though.

Do you do politics in UCD by any chance?

No, she definitely wouldn't. It's against the public mood.

Yes, I do.

unknown13 · 22-11-2010 11:17pm

I will be doing Politics as a minor in the next semester but will be probably be dropping it

kev9100 · 22-11-2010 11:19pm

MavisDavis wrote: »

No, she definitely wouldn't. It's against the public mood.

Yes, I do.

Also, if FF can't pass a budget in this Dail Fg and Labour sure as hell won't.

There are an insane amount of people in this forum who take politics. I really should start going in on Thursday more......

MavisDavis · 23-11-2010 12:20am

kev9100 wrote: »

Also, if FF can't pass a budget in this Dail Fg and Labour sure as hell won't.

There are an insane amount of people in this forum who take politics. I really should start going in on Thursday more......

Oh I know, just pointing out a technicality I remembered from last Tuesday.
Richard is lovely on a Thursday, but his subject is so, so dull.

I think the draft register is still open to amendments. You have until Friday the 25th to let your local authority know about omissions, it would seem. Sorted.

I'm stalking everyone I know on the register to make sure they're there..:pac:

A Neurotic · 23-11-2010 12:22am

Thread title made me smile, quite ironically.

Anyway, what brought all this IMF business about so suddenly? Was it only these past few days everyone realised how f*cked the country is?

*is bad at current affairs and stuff*

randylonghorn · 23-11-2010 12:29am

kev9100 wrote: »

Yeah, I think my lecturer talked about something like that last week. I doubt Mcaleese would do what Robinson did though.

Circumstances are very different ... whatever side of the argument you support, or whatever your views about timing, there is a real question about the present government's mandate.

McAleese is a former professor of law, though constitutional law wasn't her area. I couldn't see her refusing a dissolution, nor would it be appropriate for her to do so in the present scenario.

A Neurotic wrote: »

Anyway, what brought all this IMF business about so suddenly? Was it only these past few days everyone realised how f*cked the country is?

*is bad at current affairs and stuff*

Financial markets sniffled, Irish banks felt a cold coming on, Ireland came down with the 'flu.

The Increasingly Depressing Financial Crisis Thread

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