Tesco open Superstore in Naas

St._Andalou

Saadyst wrote: »

Yeah it's Tesco's fault that "local" shops / chains are closing. Get real.

Ah here, it's blindingly obvious that if a massive corporate store opens in a small town it will have a knock-on effect on smaller businesses that just can't compete.

Tesco is often much cheaper than smaller stores, so it's up to you if you want to view this as positive or negative. However, I think it's a given that if a large multinational opens in a town, local business suffers.

Critics say the UK’s richest retailer is acting as a “manipulative monopoly” through its vast wealth and ownership of a massive bank of development sites, and rushing through building programmes ahead of the introduction of controls that would severely limit its expansion.

UK pressure group Tescopoly told just-food that Tesco’s aggressive expansion has been “disastrous” for local shops and small businesses.

“[Tesco] already controls a third of the UK’s grocery market but is using increasingly dodgy tactics to gain further market share – such as front companies to buy land and using bogus figures to support planning applications,” said Helen Rimmer, Tescopoly spokesperson and Friends of the Earth food campaigner. Link here.

K-9

Suppose every little helps, or possibly not.

Sorry.

Bullseye1

Good news for Naas and the people it will employ.

th3 s1aught3r

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Good news for Naas and the people it will employ.

Dont know, they seem to have machines to do most things in Tescos

beertons

bad news for the traffic on the monread road. its already a nightmare in the mornings and evenings.

Bullseye1

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Dont know, they seem to have machines to do most things in Tescos

I thought i read that there will be +200 jobs.

Crackity Jones

Dempo1 wrote: »

NIB are closing their Branch end of November, not sure why its not on the Kildare forum.

As regards the smart arses and Tesco Banking, I meant Retail Banking not Credit Cards, Personal finance etc.

Thanks but I meant the whole thread! :pac:

Saadyst

St._Andalou wrote: »

Ah here, it's blindingly obvious that if a massive corporate store opens in a small town it will have a knock-on effect on smaller businesses that just can't compete.

Tesco is often much cheaper than smaller stores, so it's up to you if you want to view this as positive or negative. However, I think it's a given that if a large multinational opens in a town, local business suffers.

Yeah you are right, but I don't see how it is Tesco's fault... they are just doing what business should be doing - making money and being profitable.

Makes it a lot more convenient for me, and I actually prefer established supermarkets like this: there's more on the shelves, things are typically organised better, cheaper, standard policies etc.

It's regrettable that local businesses start to suffer, but you can't disparage Tesco for that.

I don't want them to become a monopoly because I've no doubt that they'll abuse their position like any other business would - so I'm glad there's Dunnes, SQ etc to compete to an extent.

Can't comment about your quoted part, there's probably more to it than I really want to spend time caring about.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

beertons wrote: »

bad news for the traffic on the monread road. its already a nightmare in the mornings and evenings.

Its gonna be a nightmare ! At least I'll be able to cross the road with all the traffic stopped !

Ciaranamo

Bullseye1 wrote: »

I thought i read that there will be +200 jobs.

I should point out that I'm working there. Damn glad I have the job too. If there is a negative knock-on effect on local retail then I don't think Tesco should get all the blame. That shold be saved for local councillors and planners.

It just got mentioned on the News at One.

Novella

Was in this Tesco this morning. Traffic was really heavy and it was so busy inside the store, really difficult to get around with the trolley. Lovely supermarket though, and some great special offers.

Pherekydes

Sink The Banana wrote: »

I don't live in naas and I shop there ,and so does a lot of people I know from Clane ,Newbridge ,Celbridge etc...

Celbridge? Clane? Newbridge? Don't forget Maynooth and Lucan. They have Tesco shops already, too.

laugh

The worst thing about the tescopoly is the way the treat suppliers.

th3 s1aught3r

laugh wrote: »

The worst thing about the tescopoly is the way the treat suppliers.

what do they do to them ?

laugh

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

what do they do to them ?

Use their buying power to dictate all terms, and move on when it's no longer possible to meet their unreasonable requirements.

topper75

They say in politics: "People get the government they deserve".

Is this also true of an economy? Will we get the one we deserve?

The employment boost for Naas is an easy-to-digest hard figure. The downside effects over the long term are not so easy to quantify. Time will tell for Naas.

df1985

The one in Maynooth is nearly too big as it is so cant imagine what the Naas one is like.

squod

A shop with parking in Naas. Jaysus why does it take Tesco to think of these things.

th3 s1aught3r

topper75 wrote: »

They say in politics: "People get the government they deserve".

Is this also true of an economy? Will we get the one we deserve?

The employment boost for Naas is an easy-to-digest hard figure. The downside effects over the long term are not so easy to quantify. Time will tell for Naas.

I imagine the downside for Naas town will be big. This Tesco superstore is on the outskirts so wont bring anymore people into the town really.
The 250 or so jobs it creates could well be offset by closing down businesses in the town itself over time

topper75

We need to learn from history and pay due heed to old adage that there is strength in diversity.

The same potato blight that took down 1 million of us in the mid 19th century also arrived elsewhere. Other countries were not devestated like us because of the variety of potatoes they grew. We were obsessed with the lumper. We paid dearly for that. The lumper was a wondrous variety. It yielded plenty of large spuds, each high in calories,and loved the Irish climate. All good, until ...

Is Tesco our lumper potato? Our 21st century monoculture folly?

Laserhead

They do sell some pretty awesome Steak and Veg pies though. Mmmmm.

th3 s1aught3r

squod wrote: »

A shop with parking in Naas. Jaysus why does it take Tesco to think of these things.

What about that monstrosity of a half built shopping centre in the middle of the town that has been just left there

iPlop

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

What about that monstrosity of a half built shopping centre in the middle of the town that has been just left there

It's in the middle of naas ,thats the problem.I hate driving through the middle of naas the poxy traffic is unreal at anytime of the day

Benny_Cake

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

What about that monstrosity of a half built shopping centre in the middle of the town that has been just left there

I live in Naas and the traffic / parking situation in the middle of town is pretty bad at the best of times so that will help Tesco. As for the shopping centre, I imagine it will be left as it is, for a long time....

1966

phasers wrote: »

So what, it's providing jobs isn't it?

obviously providing jobs in such a large store - its the damage it does to the smaller shops in the area that should be watched - very closely !!!

continue to support them if you can = i know we are all price conscious these days by necessity etc

Samba

Saadyst wrote: »

Yeah you are right, but I don't see how it is Tesco's fault... they are just doing what business should be doing - making money and being profitable.

Makes it a lot more convenient for me, and I actually prefer established supermarkets like this: there's more on the shelves, things are typically organised better, cheaper, standard policies etc.

It's regrettable that local businesses start to suffer, but you can't disparage Tesco for that.

I don't want them to become a monopoly because I've no doubt that they'll abuse their position like any other business would - so I'm glad there's Dunnes, SQ etc to compete to an extent.

Can't comment about your quoted part, there's probably more to it than I really want to spend time caring about.

If memory serves me right and judging by their yearly profits since opening here in Ireland, you get the impression they are doing just a little more than making money and being profitable, seems like borderline profiteering based on their yearly profits tbh. They just hitched a ride on the rip off bandwagon tbh.

123balltv

nice to see new jobs being provided

ha Superquinn cant see that poshy supermarket lasting much longer
their robbers charging extra for everything give me Dunnes, Tesco etc
anyday over Superquinn

Conor108

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Apparently its the biggest lingerie store Tescos in Europe

th3 s1aught3r

Sink The Banana wrote: »

It's in the middle of naas ,thats the problem.I hate driving through the middle of naas the poxy traffic is unreal at anytime of the day

The irony is that the half built shopping centre was once a large car park that catered for the town

saywhatyousee

gurramok wrote: »

If its the biggest in Europe, why did they open it in a town of less than 20,000 people?

the same reason that asda in enniskillen is the 6th busiest store in the
whole wal mart group of 7000 stores not bad for a town of 15000

OPENROAD

123balltv wrote: »

nice to see new jobs being provided

ha Superquinn cant see that poshy supermarket lasting much longer
their robbers charging extra for everything give me Dunnes, Tesco etc
anyday over Superquinn

Sonnenblumen

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Apparently its the biggest in Europe, and they already have a regular Tesco in the town
No recession for Tescos as the march towards world domination continues

one small step for Tesco, one big step for Naas.

Dempo1

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

What about that monstrosity of a half built shopping centre in the middle of the town that has been just left there

Don't know about that place, is it a NAMA Development? I also heard the Osprey Hotel is in receivership, along with the Two Heritages in Laois, the Killeshin in Portlaoise, two Golf Clubs in Kildare Tesco's move is a brave one, Just wondered is there really a market for such a large supermarket.

Kintarō Hattori

Biggins wrote: »

Great stuff. Thanks for the newsflash.

Really Biggins- was there any need to be like that? You seem like a nice enough guy so is there really any need to be smart? It doesn't suit you sir.

Minstrel27

Tesco is just super. As are all of our supermarkets. Loyalty to one over another is foolish.

Absurdum

24 hour anythings are completely useless cuz you can't buy 3am beer in them, stop the madness people!

Corsendonk

1966 wrote: »

obviously providing jobs in such a large store - its the damage it does to the smaller shops in the area that should be watched - very closely !!!

continue to support them if you can = i know we are all price conscious these days by necessity etc

They usually hire more staff than needed, put most of them on 6 month contracts. Run the usual story on every opening how there bringing so many jobs to the area then when it all dies down they get rid of a least of a third of the staff and wipe out most of the small competition or try to get remaining to move as tenents to the new Tesco shopping centre.

th3 s1aught3r

Dempo1 wrote: »

Don't know about that place, is it a NAMA Development? I also heard the Osprey Hotel is in receivership, along with the Two Heritages in Laois, the Killeshin in Portlaoise, two Golf Clubs in Kildare Tesco's move is a brave one, Just wondered is there really a market for such a large supermarket.

I would imagine the derelict shopping centre in the middle of the town is in NAMA, must have cost tens of millions. Aparently Dunnes Stores pulled out of the deal and they decided to stop contruction. It should be pulled down and restored to a car park.... town planners should be made pull it down manually

JONJO THE MISER

Please hold on i must vomit, how people shop in Tesco is beyond me.
The meat is all plastic crap, they have the lowest of the lowest quality.

th3 s1aught3r

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Please hold on i must vomit, how people shop in Tesco is beyond me.
The meat is all plastic crap, they have the lowest of the lowest quality.

Thats true, their meat is of a poor quality

MaceFace

I don't buy this meat in supermarkets is crap thing.
You go into the butchers today and you will see chicken breasts - 10 for a tenner, lamb shanks fatty as hell.

The quality of food is reflective of the price you pay. Thats the thing with the large multinationals - they offer multiple levels of quality, from the Value white label to the likes of Tesco finest, or even branded items.
The bargaining power they have means they can offer a much better price than your local butcher.
So, rather than saying Tesco food is terrible, think of it in terms of value - its is comparable (or better value) than a local shop such as a butcher.

As for this Tesco shop in Naas - it will kill the town off completely. I normally went into Naas town to do my shopping but we have been counting down the days to this place opening so we can avoid the gridlock, lack of parking, pay parking, and lack of real choice (the old Naas Tesco doesn't even have a fish counter).

Absurdum

I dislike how you can drive to tesco using your car purchased by tesco personal finance filled with tesco petrol paid for with your tesco credit card and insured by tesco insurance so you can shop in tesco and use your tesco clubcard so tesco can track your purchases

highdef

Absurdum wrote: »

I dislike how you can drive to tesco using your car purchased by tesco personal finance filled with tesco petrol paid for with your tesco credit card and insured by tesco insurance so you can shop in tesco and use your tesco clubcard so tesco can track your purchases

If you don't like it, don't get your personal finance from Tesco. Don't get your petrol from Tesco, don't apply for a Tesco credit card, don't use Tesco insurance, don't get a Tesco clubcard and if you still manage to succumb to all of this......Don't shop in Tesco. If you do all of the above, you do so by choice. You have nobody to blame but yourself for associating yourself so much with Tesco. You are free to use the services of other companies.

OPENROAD

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Please hold on i must vomit, how people shop in Tesco is beyond me.
The meat is all plastic crap, they have the lowest of the lowest quality.

Household goods are cheap

ScumLord

Don't set foot in Tescoes, never will.

Sonnenblumen

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Please hold on i must vomit, how people shop in Tesco is beyond me.
The meat is all plastic crap, they have the lowest of the lowest quality.

Vegans take note!

Sauve

I'm a veggie. Does that mean I'm ok to go ahead and eat Tesco meat!?

MidlandsM

Sauvignon82 wrote: »

I'm a veggie. Does that mean I'm ok to go ahead and eat Tesco meat!?

no, but if you were a mutant that'd be ok.:D

Copper23

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

Apparently its the biggest in Europe, and they already have a regular Tesco in the town
No recession for Tescos as the march towards world domination continues

You do realise that despite the HA sensationalization that goes on, not everyone is on their last legs from a recession, let alone a massive firm like Tescos.

ChewChew

I gave in and went there tonight at 8pm. I only do a small shop, so really only went for a browse. yeah didnt work out that way! ha. spent 2 and a half hours just walking around the place! love it. it's a great shop, and exactly whats needed!!