How does one define a scumbag?

CorkMan

It is hard to define the word, but it is basically used to describe someone so disgraceful that they are seen as the lowest form of life. "Worthlessness", "waste of skin", "dirt". "Nothing". Far worse than most other insults, where the victim is often just referred to as genetalia. The fact that "scum" is a non-swear, and seen as perfectly acceptable English, makes it even more demeaning and offensive.

If you are condemned as a "****" or a "****tard", then you are simply being attacked with cliché profanity, used spontaneously and with no particular venom or thought. "Scum", however, is usually only used in exclusive conditions where it is the only word for the job, and makes the victim feel like the lowest of the low.

Celly Smunt

might i say to everyone speaking negatively to get the fúck over yourselves..

MJ23

White runners, noisey cars, Burberry, hard chaws

jackiebaron

easyeason3 wrote: »

Yes

Cheers, budh!
:P

treborflynn

Gerry Asstrix wrote: »

Be honest, I have good job, would say Im verly well educated and intelligent , never been in any trouble with the law, and live a quiet life in a stable family environment.

But have to confess, in most of my free time I would wear an Adidas or Nike tracksuit and would be lost without my Air Max.
I love my oldskool dance music and drive an Integra.

I probably fit the scumbag bracket , but sure Im happy in it

NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT!!!!! :D:D

jackiebaron

Sykk wrote: »

You mistake poor education with being a scumbag.. I'd also consider a lot of bankers who give themselves a bonus upward of a normal persons annual wages - a scumbag.. So, my answer is probably

I'm not a banker and do not award myself bonuses. Where does your "probably" come from?

Gallant_JJ

Absolutely Ginormus jangly gold hooped ear rings often gives it away on the girls. That and muffins hanging out of belly tops that they grew out off a decade ago.

cypharius

The internet has created a new class of society who likes to brandish people in trackies a scumbag from the comfort of their pc or device GROW UP:mad:

So you think that people should only be able to say what they think about people who won't attack them for it?

RockinRolla

A scumbag is not judged by their preferred attire but by their circumstance.

Allow me to explain...

My uncle-in-law was on an overnight bus from Sao Paulo to Salvador just three weeks ago when the bus came to an abrupt stop. Being Brazilian himself, it mattered not a jot that he heard this kind of news daily on the television because when a real gun was pushed into his face and money demanded, he like the rest of us, died a little inside. I can only imaine the traumatic experience he went through - although he swears he will only travel by air from now on.

But this kind of notority is wide spread in countries right throughout the world and on an hourly basis. However, these less fortunate criminals have an excuse for their crimes - they live in a capitalist society where obtaining employment can be more difficult than finding a pot of gold in the rainbow. They are who they are in order to survive - the system gives them little options for a properous life.

However, lets compare these animalistic individuals who know no better to those from our shores. If John Doe from Finglas (sorry for the generalisation), cant find work or even refuses to find an occupation, he is safe in the knowledge that his socialist government will send him a nice little paypacket for his weekly needs in the form of 200Euro. Now, we are dealing for all intents and purposes with Euros, not Brazilian Reais, not U.S Dollars or any African currencies...we are talking about one of the strongest monies of value on Earth. But what can John Doe obtain with his 800Euro a month gift....

John can purchase his groceries to see his family eats extremely well, he can buy, cash up front of course, an iPod, fulfill his Sky and Broadband subscription, a nice wardrobe full of great shirts for his weekly night on the town, alcohol included of course, a home cinema system and perhaps a second car - you know, who doesnt have a second car...oh, and if John has no money left for his bills, then no problem, hell also get rent allowance so John is assured hell never sleep on the street.

Now that we understand Johns circumstances, can we legitimetly compare it to other nations criminals....no, of course we cant, but John chooses to live a lifestyle of dirt. Others are not so lucky. If John so wished, he has free education and free healthcare. John is lucky to have all these great things at his fingertips as an Irish citizen.

Now, back to the original question.

A scumbag for me are those wannabee, self-proclaimed hard men who choose not to live their life to the full potential within a equal system of benefit and allowance. A scumbag is a pathetic Irish citizen whos life is so meaningless because they have not taken advantage of the advantages given to them.

And dont embarrass yourself lads - compared to the favellas of South America - youre nothing more than pussycats so I hope you dwell in your own piss and **** because your life will amount to nothing - its not cool to act hard.

mathepac

johnnyjb wrote: »

... cause you think your sh/t dont stink ...

Most people who have English as their first language would type "because" and "doesn't" in place of the words I have bolded above.

johnnyjb wrote: »

... proves your a hypocrite ...

The grammatically correct colloquialism there is "you're"

johnnyjb wrote: »

... The internet has created a new class of society who likes to brandish people in trackies a scumbag from the comfort of their pc or device ...

You need "which" instead of "who" above.

"To brandish" means to wave or shake about, for example "He brandished the sword / hurley / iron-bar over his head in a threatening manner". It would be against health and safety rules (and the law) to brandish people.

I think you might mean "as scumbags" rather than "a scumbag".

johnnyjb wrote: »

... GROW UP:mad:

Good advice maybe you should heed it or at least post in English above primary school level.

uwala

Anyone with a working-class accent.

Anyone who disagrees with this is the scum of the earth.

Sunnyisland

uwala wrote: »

Anyone with a working-class accent.

Anyone who disagrees with this is the scum of the earth.

The commitments,The snapper,The van, scumbags or wat

eurokev

no ambition but to get as much welfare as possible. One young scummer was asking me about my job yesterday. Then mocked me calling me a f**king eejit cause there's free money down there. (pointing to the post office)

Berilium2

the purple tin wrote: »

Clothes don't make the scumbag, a scummy, anti social attitude does.

That is the best definition I have heard so far.

eurokev

RockinRolla wrote: »

A scumbag is not judged by their preferred attire but by their circumstance.

Allow me to explain...

My uncle-in-law was on an overnight bus from Sao Paulo to Salvador just three weeks ago when the bus came to an abrupt stop. Being Brazilian himself, it mattered not a jot that he heard this kind of news daily on the television because when a real gun was pushed into his face and money demanded, he like the rest of us, died a little inside. I can only imaine the traumatic experience he went through - although he swears he will only travel by air from now on.

But this kind of notority is wide spread in countries right throughout the world and on an hourly basis. However, these less fortunate criminals have an excuse for their crimes - they live in a capitalist society where obtaining employment can be more difficult than finding a pot of gold in the rainbow. They are who they are in order to survive - the system gives them little options for a properous life.

However, lets compare these animalistic individuals who know no better to those from our shores. If John Doe from Finglas (sorry for the generalisation), cant find work or even refuses to find an occupation, he is safe in the knowledge that his socialist government will send him a nice little paypacket for his weekly needs in the form of 200Euro. Now, we are dealing for all intents and purposes with Euros, not Brazilian Reais, not U.S Dollars or any African currencies...we are talking about one of the strongest monies of value on Earth. But what can John Doe obtain with his 800Euro a month gift....

John can purchase his groceries to see his family eats extremely well, he can buy, cash up front of course, an iPod, fulfill his Sky and Broadband subscription, a nice wardrobe full of great shirts for his weekly night on the town, alcohol included of course, a home cinema system and perhaps a second car - you know, who doesnt have a second car...oh, and if John has no money left for his bills, then no problem, hell also get rent allowance so John is assured hell never sleep on the street.

Now that we understand Johns circumstances, can we legitimetly compare it to other nations criminals....no, of course we cant, but John chooses to live a lifestyle of dirt. Others are not so lucky. If John so wished, he has free education and free healthcare. John is lucky to have all these great things at his fingertips as an Irish citizen.

Now, back to the original question.

A scumbag for me are those wannabee, self-proclaimed hard men who choose not to live their life to the full potential within a equal system of benefit and allowance. A scumbag is a pathetic Irish citizen whos life is so meaningless because they have not taken advantage of the advantages given to them.

And dont embarrass yourself lads - compared to the favellas of South America - youre nothing more than pussycats so I hope you dwell in your own piss and **** because your life will amount to nothing - its not cool to act hard.

I love you. best post ever

Princess Peach

Oh I can make a long list

-Tracksuits, male or female
-Belly tops and hot pants on non skinny girls especially in the winter
-Really crappy hair extensions
-Eyebrow piercings
-Piercing above the lip to the left or right
-Tiny bit of eyebrow shaved off
-Inability to pronouce and AH sound at the end of words, for example Sareeeeeh, Jacinteeeeh
-Adding extra syllables to all words, for example, Faaiiig
-Smoking at the tender age of 7
-Pregnant at the tender age of 14
-Listening to very loud dance music from one's suped up vehicle whule making crude comments at classy ladies walking by
-Large hoopy earrings
-Males won't take no for an answer in a nightclub, girls don't know they have the option to say no
-Inability to solve one's problems in non violent, intellegent manner

Yes. I am a snob.

cock robin

A bag filled with scum.

fonecrusher1

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

All of these things combined...

Useless.
Lazy.
Never worked.
No car.
Spits a lot.
Swears a lot.
Hardman walk when with other scummer friends.
No hardman walk when alone.
Only ever wears tracksuit bottoms & a football top.
Annoying nasal knacker voice.
Still lives with mam.
Always in betting shop.
Only ever drinks dutch gold.
Zero Life goals.
Play 5 a side 3 days a week.
New nike runners every 3 months.
New liverpool jersey every 6 months.
New child every 9 months.

The souped up shitebox with deafening exhaust and sound system, horrific body kit, lowered suspension and oversized wheels that are rubbing off the wheelarches is a very popular scum mobility device.

xcatiex

MJ23 wrote: »

White runners, noisey cars, Burberry, hard chaws

thats the football chavs that wear all the burberry:cool:

stovelid

Sykk wrote: »

How does one define a scumbag?

Endlessly.

Cranky Mc Funhouse

Duggy747 wrote: »

Getting a 14 year old pregnant, doing a legger and then getting a 15 year old pregnant.

Nice.

wolfpawnat

curlzy wrote: »

To me clothes doesn't make a scumbag, be it tracksuits, pyjamas, hoopy earrings etc, to me that doesn't equal being a scumbag at all. I think it may equal coming from a disadvantaged area but, to me anyway, being poor doesn't make you a scumbag.

To me a scumbag is:
Someone who uses violence against people.
Someone who abuses animals.
Someone who steals.
Someone who enjoys hurting or terrorising the elderly.

Those are my definitions of a scumbag.

I try not to judge people based on their clothes because I've had an inner city tracksuit wearing "scumbag" come to my rescue when I was being mugged, on another occasion I lost my purse and again it was a tracksuit wearer who gave me the money to get the bus home.

On the flip side all the suitwearing politicans in the Dail would be closer to my definition of scumbag than any other group.

+1000, I was on a bus one day, getting my buggy off, but the driver was too far from the curb, a "Anto" was passing down the street, giggie in his mouth, hat, full nike trackkies and nike runners. He offered to help me, not Fiontan and Fiachra that were actually pushing me out of the way so the could get off the bus. They were the scumbags not the fella that helped me.

THFC wrote: »

Anyone who lives in North Dublin.... :pac:

You clearly have not been to South Dublin at the Wicklow border!!!!

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

All of these things combined...

Useless.
Lazy.
Never worked.
No car.
Spits a lot.
Swears a lot.
Hardman walk when with other scummer friends.
No hardman walk when alone.
Only ever wears tracksuit bottoms & a football top.
Annoying nasal knacker voice.
Still lives with mam.
Always in betting shop.
Only ever drinks dutch gold.
Zero Life goals.
Play 5 a side 3 days a week.
New nike runners every 3 months.
New liverpool jersey every 6 months.
New child every 9 months.

You forgot that they also think that PRSI and PAYE are STD's not forms of tax!

Also 2 women on the train the other day smoking, when a woman said something they threathened to "Bate her" So an English man (or Middle Eastern descent) went up and firmly told at them that they were not the only person in the carriage, he was called a "Paki". So he, myself and a few others went up telling them to do their worst, they were quiet little scumbags after that!!!!

Thomas828

Drug dealers, drug pushers, drug users, drug abusers, drug addicts, people with brains who won't use them, people with woeful delusions about their manhood and get violent when those delusions are shown up for what they are, violent people in general... the list is endless.

Lily10

curlzy wrote: »

To me clothes doesn't make a scumbag, be it tracksuits, pyjamas, hoopy earrings etc, to me that doesn't equal being a scumbag at all. I think it may equal coming from a disadvantaged area but, to me anyway, being poor doesn't make you a scumbag.

To me a scumbag is:
Someone who uses violence against people.
Someone who abuses animals.
Someone who steals.
Someone who enjoys hurting or terrorising the elderly.

Those are my definitions of a scumbag.

I try not to judge people based on their clothes because I've had an inner city tracksuit wearing "scumbag" come to my rescue when I was being mugged, on another occasion I lost my purse and again it was a tracksuit wearer who gave me the money to get the bus home.

On the flip side all the suitwearing politicans in the Dail would be closer to my definition of scumbag than any other group.

Completely agree! Actions speak louder than words..or accents..or tracksuits..or earrings..etc

Lily10

THFC wrote: »

Anyone who lives in North Dublin.... :pac:

Do you actually know anyone who lives in North Dublin?

Shelli2

Lack of basic respect for other life forms = scumbag.


That is the basic formula, but it has many variations including, but not limited to:
corrupt Bank execs
animal abusers
corrupt politicians
football hooligans
common garden variety knacker thugs
litter bugs
anyone who considers violence an answer to any problem

Lily10

A scumbag to me is someone who has absolutely no regard for anyone else's property. I'll give you an example of 4 lads my husband went to school with, they routinely whipped it out and urinated on the floor in nightclubs (I'm assuming they thought it was funny) they also routinely started fights and broke windows while drunk out on the town. These lads were attending medical school at UCD and all came from well to do families from "D4". I couldn't stand to be around these white trash scumbags.

Aldito

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

All of these things combined...

Useless.
Lazy.
Never worked.
No car.
Spits a lot.
Swears a lot.
Hardman walk when with other scummer friends.
No hardman walk when alone.
Only ever wears tracksuit bottoms & a football top.
Annoying nasal knacker voice.
Still lives with mam.
Always in betting shop.
Only ever drinks dutch gold.
Zero Life goals.
Play 5 a side 3 days a week.
New nike runners every 3 months.
New liverpool jersey every 6 months.
New child every 9 months.

How does any one of those things make you a scumbag?

And the rest don't make you a scumbag either, maybe not the type of person you'd like to be friends with, but not a scumbag.

fonecrusher1

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Also 2 women on the train the other day smoking, when a woman said something they threathened to "Bate her" So an English man (or Middle Eastern descent) went up and firmly told at them that they were not the only person in the carriage, he was called a "Paki". So he, myself and a few others went up telling them to do their worst, they were quiet little scumbags after that!!!!

Thats because contrary to the hardman/woman appearance scummers are cowards at heart. They get very brave when in large numbers. Ive noticed the hardman walk displayed by male scummers increases & decreases in exaggeration in relation to the size of the protective herd they hide amongst.

Basically you'll never get trouble from one who's isolated from a pack. In packs they'll pick a fight with a lamppost.

fonecrusher1

Aldito wrote: »

How does any one of those things make you a scumbag?

And the rest don't make you a scumbag either, maybe not the type of person you'd like to be friends with, but not a scumbag.

Read the first sentence of my post.

com·bined, com·bin·ing, com·bines

1. To bring into a state of unity; merge.
2. To join (two or more substances) to make a single substance, such as a chemical compound; mix.
3. To possess or exhibit in combination

elchupanebrey

Asking someone stopped at traffic lights where they could score some gear would tip them into scumbag territory for me. I told him he was heading the right direction which just happened to be out of town.

He then told me I had a nice car and it would be a shame if he and his two pals were to take it off me, Luckily the lights went green and he drove off.

Capt'n Midnight

I called a guy a scumbag today after I noticed him looking over my shoulder while I was taking a leak.

His excuse was that he was trying to look at the bus timetable. :rolleyes:

CorkMan

Enough of the grammar lessons please. This is not the language forum.

h8scobes

a d4 rapist armed robber serial murderer is a lot of things but they can never be a scumbag in the irish sense

johnnyjb

mathepac wrote: »

Most people who have English as their first language would type "because" and "doesn't" in place of the words I have bolded above.
The grammatically correct colloquialism there is "you're"
You need "which" instead of "who" above.

"To brandish" means to wave or shake about, for example "He brandished the sword / hurley / iron-bar over his head in a threatening manner". It would be against health and safety rules (and the law) to brandish people.

I think you might mean "as scumbags" rather than "a scumbag".
Good advice maybe you should heed it or at least post in English above primary school level.

Ok:rolleyes: you seem to have no answers but stupid corrections for grammar on the internet, cause every one knows its important to do good grammar on d'internet. Be honest, are you 10 yrs of age. Come back with something thats on topic and no so anal.

Ill spell the way i want little boy -And i thought the schools were not on christmas hols for another month or so,we ll have this rubbish till first week of jan

Ash.J.Williams

a person who is insecure about their place in society to the point that they have no respect for other people or their property.

Capt'n Midnight

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

a person who is insecure about their place in society

they have no place in society

d22ontour

h8scobes wrote: »

they stick socks into runners as well.

So i take it you stick your runners into your socks so ?

Dublin4Life

curlzy wrote: »

To me clothes doesn't make a scumbag, be it tracksuits, pyjamas, hoopy earrings etc, to me that doesn't equal being a scumbag at all. I think it may equal coming from a disadvantaged area but, to me anyway, being poor doesn't make you a scumbag.

To me a scumbag is:
Someone who uses violence against people.

The last time I encountered a scumbag , he was on the floor crying for his mother;)

sollar

Anyone that looks like this:

SteelyDanJalapeno

Joey Barton

TimeToShine

RockinRolla wrote: »

A scumbag is not judged by their preferred attire but by their circumstance.

Allow me to explain...

My uncle-in-law was on an overnight bus from Sao Paulo to Salvador just three weeks ago when the bus came to an abrupt stop. Being Brazilian himself, it mattered not a jot that he heard this kind of news daily on the television because when a real gun was pushed into his face and money demanded, he like the rest of us, died a little inside. I can only imaine the traumatic experience he went through - although he swears he will only travel by air from now on.

But this kind of notority is wide spread in countries right throughout the world and on an hourly basis. However, these less fortunate criminals have an excuse for their crimes - they live in a capitalist society where obtaining employment can be more difficult than finding a pot of gold in the rainbow. They are who they are in order to survive - the system gives them little options for a properous life.

However, lets compare these animalistic individuals who know no better to those from our shores. If John Doe from Finglas (sorry for the generalisation), cant find work or even refuses to find an occupation, he is safe in the knowledge that his socialist government will send him a nice little paypacket for his weekly needs in the form of 200Euro. Now, we are dealing for all intents and purposes with Euros, not Brazilian Reais, not U.S Dollars or any African currencies...we are talking about one of the strongest monies of value on Earth. But what can John Doe obtain with his 800Euro a month gift....

John can purchase his groceries to see his family eats extremely well, he can buy, cash up front of course, an iPod, fulfill his Sky and Broadband subscription, a nice wardrobe full of great shirts for his weekly night on the town, alcohol included of course, a home cinema system and perhaps a second car - you know, who doesnt have a second car...oh, and if John has no money left for his bills, then no problem, hell also get rent allowance so John is assured hell never sleep on the street.

Now that we understand Johns circumstances, can we legitimetly compare it to other nations criminals....no, of course we cant, but John chooses to live a lifestyle of dirt. Others are not so lucky. If John so wished, he has free education and free healthcare. John is lucky to have all these great things at his fingertips as an Irish citizen.

Now, back to the original question.

A scumbag for me are those wannabee, self-proclaimed hard men who choose not to live their life to the full potential within a equal system of benefit and allowance. A scumbag is a pathetic Irish citizen whos life is so meaningless because they have not taken advantage of the advantages given to them.

And dont embarrass yourself lads - compared to the favellas of South America - youre nothing more than pussycats so I hope you dwell in your own piss and **** because your life will amount to nothing - its not cool to act hard.

Easily the best post I've ever seen on this website. This should be stickied or something, what a superb, short and succinct description of the state of the scum in this country. Absolutely brilliant.

Is mise le key

1. Wears a suit
2. Gets driven around in a limo
3. Has a trinity education
4. Says 'Systemic' a lot
5. Gets paid €181,000 a year
6. Wont answer a straight question
7. From west dublin
8. Paradoxically (see point 7) is no Irish man

Cook my sock

Some of the replies in this thread contribute to the reason why I hate people as a whole.

Irish Guitarist

Anyone that thinks it's funny to hurt animals. Anyone that shouts abuse at complete strangers in the street. Anyone that encourages their kids to shout abuse at people. Anyone that harasses the elderly. Anyone that pretends to work for a charity to scam money from people.

enda1

The spitting thing gets to me too.

Not so much spitting per se but when the spit is made to let everyone in the vicinity know that they are spitting.

- In particular when its as you are walking towards them, in front of where you're going
- A big durty greener
- On steps, inside a shop, on public transport etc. etc.

Aside from spitting, its more the attitude of intimidation. The need to feel superior to people because of the deep rooted knowledge that they are inferior in every other way.

sensibleken

I think everyone is great.

Pyr0

Anyone who..

Attacks people for sh!ts and giggles with a group of their mates is a scum bag.

Mugging or stealing from people is a scumbag.

Attacks animals for a laugh is a scumbag.

Pretty much anyone who deliberately breaks the law or effects the well being of others in a negative way in everyday life is a scumbag in my eyes.