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Qantas grounds A380 fleet

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  • 04-11-2010 3:53pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭


    What do you make of this guys . i don't like the look of the hole in the wing . I know I wouldn't like to be sitting on the plane looking at that out the window

    Qantas grounds A380 fleet

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    A passenger's view of damage on the left wing over the number two engine of the Qantas Airways A380 plane which was forced to land at Singapore today. Photograph: Ulf M. Waschbusch/Reuters

    Qantas Airways has grounded its Airbus A380 fleet after one of the planes was forced to land in Singapore after running into engine trouble.

    In one of the most serious incidents for the world's largest passenger plane in its three years of commercial flight, the A380, which had originated in London and was carrying 459 people, had to shut down one of its four engines shortly after it had left the island state en route for Sydney.

    Australian officials said no one on board was injured.

    Qantas, which operates six A380s, said it was grounding the aircraft pending a full investigation. "We will suspend all A380 takeoffs until we are fully confident we have sufficient information about [flight] QF32," Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce told reporters in Sydney.

    Former aircraft engineer Neil Shephard was on board. "Four or five minutes after the flight there was a loud bang. The pilot said there was a technical issue with the plane and then we circled around for an hour to dump the fuel," he told Reuters.

    "During the landing, it was a bit wobbly. We could not tell the extent of the problem until we got out of the plane where we could see one hole around six to seven inches wide on the wing. The pilot did a good job, it could have been worse."

    The plane circled Singapore to burn fuel before making an emergency landing. It had been in the air almost an hour. About an hour after landing, passengers left the aircraft and were in Singapore's Changi airport. A Qantas statement said they would stay in Singapore overnight and another plane would be sent for them on Friday morning.

    A Reuters reporter said the plane was surrounded on the ground by emergency vehicles, but there was no sign of smoke or fire. However, one of the four nacelles - structures that house the engines - was missing and there appeared to be charring around that area of the plane.

    There have been no fatal incidents involving A380s since they were launched in 2005 amid great fanfare as the greenest, quietest - as well as the biggest - jetliner.

    Initial media reports said the plane had crashed after an explosion over the Indonesian island of Batam, near Singapore. The reports sent the Australian carrier's shares lower but they later recovered.

    Singapore's Channel NewsAsia said the plane circled Singapore to burn fuel before making an emergency landing.

    Indonesian TV showed pictures of a small amount of debris on the ground near Batam airport which it said belonged to the Qantas plane. A witness in Batam, told Indonesia's Metro TV: "After an explosion, the plane was still moving but smoke was trailing from one of its wings."

    Qantas has never had a fatal accident. A mid-air explosion blew a minivan-size hole in the side of a Qantas 747-400 in 2008 which Australian air safety investigators blamed on an oxygen bottle.

    Today's incident came just days before Qantas was due to celebrate its 90th anniversary with a special open day in Brisbane.

    The A380 has been bedevilled with production delays. More than 200 orders have been placed for the aircraft, and 37 are in operation worldwide, according to Airbus. Qantas said the incident did not impact its standing orders for more A380s.

    Earlier this year, one of the planes operated by Qantas burst two tyres when landing in Sydney, and in September 2009 an A380 was forced to turn around in mid-flight and return to Paris.

    "This is probably the most serious incident involving the A380 since it began flying in commercial service," said aviation expert Tom Ballantyne, chief correspondent of Orient Aviation magazine. "There have been minor engine incidents before but nothing like this."

    Qantas A380s use Rolls-Royce engines. This particular plane had Trent 900 engines and was built in 2008.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    a hole in the wing was likely after an exploding engine! Does an exploding engine bother me? no, the other engines will pick up the slack, and besides, most planes make an effort to fly over land in case of emergency. I might start to get worried about my bum if the wing totally fell off! but would it put me off flying altogether? na!


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭csm


    Well I'm booking flights tonight on Singapore Airlines which uses the same plane & engine as above. So not bothered at all. In fact, the flights are 100 quid cheaper today than they were yesterday so the exploding engine incident is something of a bonus!

    If I don't post after 8th February then I'll have been killed in a horrible plane crash...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    csm wrote: »
    In fact, the flights are 100 quid cheaper today than they were yesterday so the exploding engine incident is something of a bonus!

    sweeet! hadn't thought of that. Need to book flights myself :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭csm


    Yeah I was surprised! May not be down to the incident but it was 200GBP more for the two of us yesterday than it was today. Didn't end up booking for the A380 but only because the timings for that one didn't suit. On the B777 instead.

    Going to Oz baby! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meh cant get back to Ireland any other way ....for a holiday like


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  • Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Shzm


    I wouldn't be worried about flying on a a380 - I'm flying Singapore airlines a380 at the end of the month.

    I'd be more worried about flying Qantas... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11702365


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    Zero Operational Fatalaties in the Companies history

    Get that

    ZERO


    Would this shake my confidence in QANTAS?

    in a Word

    NO


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Shzm wrote: »
    I wouldn't be worried about flying on a a380 - I'm flying Singapore airlines a380 at the end of the month.

    I'd be more worried about flying Qantas... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11702365
    Snap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 iwillrocku


    it is very suspicous that 2 planes from quantas have engine problems:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    lets not forget about the holes in their planes before..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7526637.stm







    *waits for ticket prices to drop more..*:pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48 iwillrocku


    lets not forget about the holes in their planes before..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7526637.stm







    *waits for ticket prices to drop more..*:pac:
    what do you mean


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 9,047 CMod ✭✭✭✭CabanSail


    I was flying Qantas once from Bangkok to London. There was a problem with the Fuel Management Computer, so the flight was delayed. It was due to depart at midnight but we were on the ground until about 4am when they put us all up in the airport hotel. We eventually departed in the afternoon after they had flown in a new part and fitted it.

    I wrote to the Qantas Public Relations to compliment them on how they managed the situation. We were all kept informed along the way and they did not let the cost of the delay influence their safety decisions. Talking to people in the industry after this I found out that it was probably possible for the flight to have left on time with such a fault but it would have added considerably to the pilot's workload and hence reduced safety. If you read up about most accidents there is normally multiple failures which lead to a disaster. The cautious approach of grounding aircraft is a reason why I would choose them as a carrier rather than go elsewhere. I have more confidence in an airline that puts safety first above passenger convienience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Shzm


    Zero Operational Fatalaties in the Companies history

    Get that

    ZERO


    Would this shake my confidence in QANTAS?

    in a Word

    NO

    Alright alright, keep your pants on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭carbsy


    Shzm wrote: »
    Alright alright, keep your pants on.

    Now you know how Tom Cruise felt like in Rainman. :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Ozeire wrote: »
    76918_167663649919196_146494215369473_506698_662177_n.jpg

    Some paint job - which area do you not walk outside of, the white or the grey? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭woolymammoth


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    iwillrocku wrote: »
    what do you mean
    eh?

    inciting fear for self gain!!!!!!

    read some earlier posts!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    Having flown from Sydney to Los Angeles with Qantas aboard the A380, I would not be afraid to fly either with Qantas or on the A380. Qantas are a very good airline and I took 6 flights with them this summer as part of my Round the World trip and found them to be an excellent airline to deal with.

    I will fly with them again in future and these incidents do not make me frightened but actually instill confidence in me as the A380 has passed it first Emergency in flying colours and any issues with the Rolls Royce engines will soon be teased out and this will incident will serve to make all A380s even safer. Qantas has never had a passenger fatality in their lifetime and are a great example of Aussie service and next time I go long haul eastwards I will probably fly them again.

    I am thinking of going to Thailand in Spring and over the last few days Etihad has risen their prices from €690/return to €820/return. I wonder is this just price gouging or what?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭the dee


    I'm supposed to be flying with Qantas on an A380 on Sunday, not worried about safety but am worried about delays...


  • Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    went out of my way to book a flight on the A380, going with singapore in january. wouldnt make me change my mind. if you's have ever seen the national geographic-megafactories on rolls royce, all of their engines around the world are constantly monitored, singapore adn qantas are great airlines.

    these problems will be fixed quickly by rolls royce and everything back to normal :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,354 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    No
    I clicked, yes, but its mostly to play devils advocate.


    I'd have no problem with flying Quantas.
    But I wouldn't fly an A380, seeing as RR have found out there is a design flaw. But its a bit of a moot point, as nobody will fly until its fixed, once its fixed I have no problem flying etc

    Also, lol at some of the comments above, the other engines will pick up the slack etc.
    Where you aware that the shrapnel from he engine cause partial loss of control of that side, severed lines, etc.

    Zero Operational Fatalaties in the Companies history

    Get that

    ZERO
    Didn't they go to great lengths, at a major loss to ensure that they never statisticly had total wreckage of a fuselage. Basicly fixed everything at a greater cost than a new plane, jsut so they could say "we never has a serious crash"

    Pretty sure than plane has been sitting in the Nevada desert since and never flew again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Funglegunk


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    sdonn wrote: »
    Some paint job - which area do you not walk outside of, the white or the grey? :P

    The side that the text is on surely. :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Zero Operational Fatalaties in the Companies history

    Get that

    ZERO


    Would this shake my confidence in QANTAS?

    in a Word

    NO

    What about the case of the mechanic who serviced hundreds/ thousands of Quantas planes with little or no relevant qualifications or experience after falsfying the lot oif it? Jesus you gotta love the Aussies attention to detail.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    And still with all that

    No one who Booked and Paid to be on a Qantas Jet has ever died as a result of the Action of Qantas


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    sdonn wrote: »
    Some paint job - which area do you not walk outside of, the white or the grey? :P
    The area where the sign is?!?!? i.e. the grey area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    And still with all that

    No one who Booked and Paid to be on a Qantas Jet has ever died as a result of the Action of Qantas
    How about old age from waiting for them? Or poisoned by the bitterness of their staff?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    ballooba wrote: »
    How about old age from waiting for them? Or poisoned by the bitterness of their staff?

    See I never experienced any of that, I have a Qualiflyer card and I use Qantas whenver I can Domesticaly or internationally.

    I found them to be very punctual and the staff pleasent helpful and courteous, as has everyone else I've spoken to


    Has you considered that they might just behave that way towatds you because you're a bit of a Cnut:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    See I never experienced any of that, I have a Qualiflyer card and I use Qantas whenver I can Domesticaly or internationally.
    What's a Qualiflyer card?
    Has you considered that they might just behave that way towatds you because you're a bit of a Cnut:D:D:D:D:D:D
    Maybe that's it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Wouldn't bothered at all
    Qualiflyer is what my Qantas loyalty card is called.

    you get access to the Qantas skylounges and a few other little perks like discounts and free baggage


    Edit

    Just looked it up they were discontinued in 2002 so its no surprise you havent heard of it, I must check what its actually called now, odd tho cos I've been using the same number since I signed up all those years ago, and it seems that Qantas werent even members of the Qualiflyer group :eek:

    Still tho I'll keep using it til someone finally figures it out:D


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