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Stipple celing solution

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    'Twould help if you said where you're located.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Hinson


    zipzoc wrote: »
    Anyone?

    I will do it for you, Im a plasterer based in tallaght with many years of experience at this. Its a bit messy though, so you will need to get everything out of the room you want skimmed. First i remove the larger bumps off the ceiling with a scraper (wearing a mask as old ceilings contain white asbestos). Then i put a pva bond on the ceiling with a roller. Wait for this to go tacky and then the ceiling is skimmed using two coats as i would any ceiling. The result is a perfect ceiling every time. I did one as recently as last week you can have a look at it if you want and ive probably done over a hundred in the last 12 years in UK and Ireland.

    I usually charge about 150 for a big living room/ dining room ceiling (materials and labour). Then maybe 70 upwards for smaller rooms.

    Doug 0857039978


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭650gs


    Thats a good deal but would still be better re slabed


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Hinson


    650gs wrote: »
    Thats a good deal but would still be better re slabed

    But at least double the price for the exact same finish. Also when you over skim you can normally leave any coveing in place so you save again there.

    Personally i would only recommend a re board if you had a water damaged ceiling that was warped, or a very unlevel ceiling. I know what you mean about the white asbestos, but if a customer was worried about scraping the stipple I would just bond and skim instead without disturbing the artex. This takes a little more time however. I always wear a mask for scraping off stipple anyway and if this is hoovered/ mopped up afterwards it poses no risk to the householder whatsoever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭zipzoc


    Sorry, I forgot my location didn't show beside my name. I'm based in Dublin. On the northside. Hinson, thanks for your reply. I just sent you a message.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭650gs


    :eek: Important Safety notice: Be aware that some drywall compounds used in the 70s and even 80s were made with an asbestos. It is possible that your stipple ceiling has asbestos in it, even though asbestos was largely outlawed from use in 1978. This is because contractors and builders were allowed to use asbestos-containing supplies they already had on hand. If you suspect your ceiling contains asbestos, you should get it tested at an asbestos testing lab before sanding it. Sanding an asbestos ceiling would release large quanties of airborne asbestos – the most dangerous kind. Asbestos has been known to cause asbestosis and mesothelioma.

    As I said highly dangerous to everyone that enters the house for at least 24hrs and a hover does not work you should have a specialist remove this


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    650gs wrote: »
    Thats a good deal but would still be better re slabed


    Like this??

    Old original stippled ceiling from a 1972 kitchen extension that gave way due to a water leak from the flat roof above it.:(


    Now reslabbed and replastered smoothly too (thankfully)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,724 ✭✭✭oleras


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Like this??

    Old original stippled ceiling from a 1972 kitchen extension that gave way due to a water leak from the flat roof above it.:(


    Now reslabbed and replastered smoothly too (thankfully)

    I would call that stipple "textured paint" compared to the stalactites i have in my house...;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    650gs wrote: »
    :eek: Important Safety notice: Be aware that some drywall compounds used in the 70s and even 80s were made with an asbestos. It is possible that your stipple ceiling has asbestos in it, even though asbestos was largely outlawed from use in 1978. This is because contractors and builders were allowed to use asbestos-containing supplies they already had on hand. If you suspect your ceiling contains asbestos, you should get it tested at an asbestos testing lab before sanding it. Sanding an asbestos ceiling would release large quanties of airborne asbestos – the most dangerous kind. Asbestos has been known to cause asbestosis and mesothelioma.

    As I said highly dangerous to everyone that enters the house for at least 24hrs and a hover does not work you should have a specialist remove this

    Agree totally

    On no account scrape away loose stipple unless area is held under negative pressure ( this would be carried out by a competent asbestos removal contractor but would be costly~)
    Scraping stipple will cause airborne fibres which will NEVER be totally got rid of in a normal situation.
    Even hoovering is no good..you would need a Hepa Filter vacuum, and would still not get rid of the airborne fibres.

    Best option is to just plaster over the existing ceiling...if there are some uneven areas a good plasterer should be able to sort this out

    But , as I say, DONT scrape whats there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    Hinson wrote: »
    But at least double the price for the exact same finish. Also when you over skim you can normally leave any coveing in place so you save again there.

    Personally i would only recommend a re board if you had a water damaged ceiling that was warped, or a very unlevel ceiling. I know what you mean about the white asbestos, but if a customer was worried about scraping the stipple I would just bond and skim instead without disturbing the artex. This takes a little more time however. I always wear a mask for scraping off stipple anyway and if this is hoovered/ mopped up afterwards it poses no risk to the householder whatsoever.

    YOU wear a mask?????????? what about the houseowner??
    What type of mask? Is it a P3 with filters or just your standard builders dust mask, which is totally ineffective.

    How can you say if you scrape off stipple and then hoover it poses no risks?
    Have you ever arranged for independent air monitoring by an accredidited analyst after your work...????????
    Bet 10000/ 1 you havent, based on those comments


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  • Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭zipzoc


    650gs wrote: »
    :eek: Important Safety notice: Be aware that some drywall compounds used in the 70s and even 80s were made with an asbestos. It is possible that your stipple ceiling has asbestos in it, even though asbestos was largely outlawed from use in 1978. This is because contractors and builders were allowed to use asbestos-containing supplies they already had on hand. If you suspect your ceiling contains asbestos, you should get it tested at an asbestos testing lab before sanding it. Sanding an asbestos ceiling would release large quanties of airborne asbestos – the most dangerous kind. Asbestos has been known to cause asbestosis and mesothelioma.

    As I said highly dangerous to everyone that enters the house for at least 24hrs and a hover does not work you should have a specialist remove this

    Thanks for the warning 650gs


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