Panasonic not seeing Irish channels again.

TheDriver

bob11 wrote: »

I had a similar issue on my Panasonic ..

There is a menu under the option function called "Audio Description" ..
When I turned it to OFF, the sound is now working on "eng" channel automatically on RTE 1 AND RTE 2 , but not on TV3 and TG4 ...
Hopefully this works for you as well ..

there is no audio description on my tv (z81)

WHL

I am attaching my data files for the TXL37G10B. I hope that it is of use to somebody

championc

I've just setup my TX-L37G20B. Scanned - I've got all my Saorview Channels, Radio Stations and all the Freesat stations so everything is as I hoped. And no sound issues as expected too. And as for MHEG-5 - it's fab

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AvidIrishReader

championc wrote: »

I've just setup my TX-L37G20B. Scanned - I've got all my Saorview Channels, Radio Stations and all the Freesat stations so everything is as I hoped. And no sound issues as expected too. And as for MHEG-5 - it's fab

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Folks, half of this chat is way over my head, but I too have a TXL32G1B that I bought last January from Seamus Watters.

I've had the sound issues with TV3 and TG4 on the digital/DVB setup - it came and went (so I watched them on analogue).

However, more worrying, on Saturday night last I got the automatic message saying 'found new channels'. When the process was complete, all I had on the digital were the 10 RTE radio channels and no television channels.

I see some people mention Firmware and Panasonic, but if there's anything I can do myself to resolve this, I'm all ears.

Thanks

STB

AvidIrishReader wrote: »

Folks, half of this chat is way over my head, but I too have a TXL32G1B that I bought last January from Seamus Watters.

I've had the sound issues with TV3 and TG4 on the digital/DVB setup - it came and went (so I watched them on analogue).

However, more worrying, on Saturday night last I got the automatic message saying 'found new channels'. When the process was complete, all I had on the digital were the 10 RTE radio channels and no television channels.

I see some people mention Firmware and Panasonic, but if there's anything I can do myself to resolve this, I'm all ears.

Thanks

You have a G10B ?

Well then you are the lucky one, you dont have to load a hotel file. You can follow a hack that allows you to temporarily turn your G10B into the European model in order to succesfully scan for the Irish DTT stations and then revert back to your initial settings.

Read this thread and follow the instructions carefully. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056079528

I would point out that this hack was not offered by Panasonic - they have offered nothing to Irish consumers for their deliberately crippled firmware. This hack only exists because somebody in the UK discovered they have been shipping the same units with various firmwares inside that limits its capabilities. This allows the same unit be shipped under different model names at different costs to the consumer. Questionable marketing to say the least, in my opinion!

maxg

STB wrote: »

This hack only exists because somebody in the UK discovered they have been shipping the same units with various firmwares inside that limits its capabilities. This allows the same unit be shipped under different model names at different costs to the consumer.

Not quite right. The whole hack idea is based at the german HiFi-forum. The germans killed a dozend TV's befor all things were clear. Hodg got a lot of questions answered in the HiFi-forum before he imported the idea to the Uk and wrote a tut in english.

radiospan

Not sure if this is mentioned here already, but it seems that the RTENL Test Transmission channel (showing a testcard in SD) now has the old service type flag, so that's the only TV channel that shows up on the certain Panasonic models.

Sponge Bob

Getting close to an amnesty are we ????

watty

Or else it will have an announcement explaining why the other channels don't work!

When they get 2nd Mux they could even explain what's missing via MPEG2

Stinicker

watty wrote: »

Or else it will have an announcement explaining why the other channels don't work!

When they get 2nd Mux they could even explain what's missing via MPEG2

I think RTENL should do an MPEG2 information channel for Saorview with all the info on it and broadcast it out all over, similiar to Sky's info channels on their satellite system.

watty

They can't right now. Not enough space
unless it is very low quality.

Sponge Bob

watty wrote: »

They can't right now. Not enough space
unless it is very low quality.

They have 3 spare muxes almost nationwide

watty

I did say they could when 2nd mux is running

I'd think the 3rd and 4th are not getting kitted nationwide

Stinicker

watty wrote: »

They can't right now. Not enough space
unless it is very low quality.

Could they run it instead of the RTENL test channel?

watty

MPEG2 takes x2 to x3 the space of MPEG4. Such an RTENL info channel would thus be space of two channels. Unless it was like a slide show.

Sponge Bob

Currys highlighting the Panasonic "42PT20B" (sic) 3D Plasma in their latest brochure. I does get worried when I see a "B" at the end.

They advise it is "MPEG2 perfect" Sky and UPC compatible....which it is of course

JonathonS

Stinicker wrote: »

I think RTENL should do an MPEG2 information channel for Saorview with all the info on it and broadcast it out all over, similiar to Sky's info channels on their satellite system.

The least they could do is explain on their site and on the Saorview site why some types of kit were able to receive the channels, and now cannot.

watty

550+ a day now reading this one http://www.saortv.info/

watty

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Currys highlighting the Panasonic "42PT20B" (sic) 3D Plasma in their latest brochure. I does get worried when I see a "B" at the end.

They advise it is "MPEG2 perfect" Sky and UPC compatible....which it is of course

Sky & UPC don't use the TV's MPEG2 decoder. HDMI is raw.

So that's a nonsense claim.

Besides UPC and Sky HD is MPEG4

Sykkes1

Anyone got a backup file for TX-P42V10B? Based in Skerries. This Panasonic thing is becoming a real pain. thks

JonathonS

watty wrote: »

550+ a day now reading this one http://www.saortv.info/

Saw your BLACK LIST. Good stuff.

galvo_clare

I have a TXP42G20, bought from Northern Ireland a few months ago.
The new channel dialogue box appeared a few weeks ago but I only
dealt with it tonight.
After backing up my channels, just in case, I rescanned and it found
all the channels it was supposed to.
I now have TV3 and 3E in addition to the RTE and radio channels so it looks like this model works with the new flag.
Happy days. Hope this is of help.

Stinicker wrote: »

I just "updated Channel list" on my Panasonic TX-P50G10B UK FREESAT model and it while it tunes in the Saorview Radio channels it fails to notice the TV channels now.

Don't retune your Freesat Panasonic tv sets or you will lose the tv channels.

Machinehead

My pinch of salt here: Panny TX-L42D25L (Ireland Model), no problem with any Saorview changes introduced lately. All channels showing with the correct flag i.e. RTÉ TWO channel 2 carries HDTV flag, RTÉ TWO (SD) channel 7 RTÉNL Test all coming thru' fine. If Panasonic would only get the finger out & sort out the Ireland models & MHEG5. Would I recommend Panasonic? tough question, my TV offers a great picture+DNLA (which is great), Freesat & DTT but as it isn't full Soarview spec, I stand 50-50 on the Panny thing, but at least at the moment it's not a brick.

steveq

Machinehead wrote: »

My pinch of salt here: Panny TX-L42D25L (Ireland Model), no problem with any Saorview changes introduced lately. All channels showing with the correct flag i.e. RTÉ TWO channel 2 carries HDTV flag, RTÉ TWO (SD) channel 7 RTÉNL Test all coming thru' fine. If Panasonic would only get the finger out & sort out the Ireland models & MHEG5. Would I recommend Panasonic? tough question, my TV offers a great picture+DNLA (which is great), Freesat & DTT but as it isn't full Soarview spec, I stand 50-50 on the Panny thing, but at least at the moment it's not a brick.

Hi,
I was thinking of buying that model. Does it have the Freesat EPG (i.e. 7 days with a number of categories)? Does it automatically update if UK Satellite channels change or move?
Is it the same as the UK D25B model?

Thanks.

Machinehead

steveq wrote: »

Hi,
I was thinking of buying that model. Does it have the Freesat EPG (i.e. 7 days with a number of categories)? Does it automatically update if UK Satellite channels change or move?
Is it the same as the UK D25B model?

Thanks.

Hi. The D25L will give you "now & next" in the EPG for freesat, full 7 day EPG for Saorview. In both DTT & Freesat modes the TV will notify that new channels are available & requests user to rescan to update channel listing. In Freesat mode new & updated channels are added to the end of the EPG which can then be repositioned as required by user.
My understanding is that the D25L & D25B are the same but running different software. The result of this is that the D25B will offer you 7 day EPG in Freesat mode & also it will give you MHEG5 digital text & TV guide which the D25L can't. All told it's got the best picture I've seen on an LCD (after calibration), it also has many other features which I make good use of. I use the Media server function quite a lot, this allows me to stream photos & video directly from my laptop via WiFi. USB ports also allow pics & video via USB stick. Viera Cast is also regularly used, for weather & sports updates.
If you have any further questions you can send me a PM.

championc

steveq wrote: »

Hi,
I was thinking of buying that model. Does it have the Freesat EPG (i.e. 7 days with a number of categories)? Does it automatically update if UK Satellite channels change or move?
Is it the same as the UK D25B model?

Thanks.

Would highly recommend a G20B to be honest. Everything working great - just whack in a UK postcode and you're away.


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Machinehead

championc wrote: »

Would highly recommend a G20B to be honest. Everything working great - just whack in a UK postcode and you're away.


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Yep, I totally agree. The G20B is a better TV, but I couldn't find a "bricks & mortar" retailer in Ireland that would ship to Kerry. I wanted to use an Irish retailer should I have any problems down the road & needed for return or repair, hence my reluctance with an online purchase for such a high ticket item.

Promis

Are the Service type flags still changed to 0x16 for SD and 0x19 for HD? I have just successfully re-scanned my Panasonic 42V20B. The station names changed and have RTE Two Temp. Have Panasonic started to react to the Boards concerns?

fat-tony

Promis wrote: »

Are the Service type flags still changed to 0x16 for SD and 0x19 for HD? I have just successfully re-scanned my Panasonic 42V20B. The station names changed and have RTE Two Temp. Have Panasonic started to react to the Boards concerns?

As of 14:00 I can confirm that the Advanced Codec flag is set for all TV channels and RTE Two (main) is set to 0x19 (dec. 25).

superleedsdub

Machinehead wrote: »

Yep, I totally agree. The G20B is a better TV, but I couldn't find a "bricks & mortar" retailer in Ireland that would ship to Kerry. I wanted to use an Irish retailer should I have any problems down the road & needed for return or repair, hence my reluctance with an online purchase for such a high ticket item.

Try Seamus watters or Richer sounds up north - not sure if they deliver to Kerry but I got my G20B from SW an got the 5 year warranty from panasonic no problem....

Machinehead

Re Panny D25L. As the UK is not available as a country option in set up, can anyone confirm if they have MHEG5 by using any other country setting rather than Ireland, or is the D25B England model the only one with MHEG5 enabled?

championc

Machinehead wrote: »

Yep, I totally agree. The G20B is a better TV, but I couldn't find a "bricks & mortar" retailer in Ireland that would ship to Kerry. I wanted to use an Irish retailer should I have any problems down the road & needed for return or repair, hence my reluctance with an online purchase for such a high ticket item.

I think Seamus Watters (watterselectrical - Tel: 048 308 68296) was prepared to ship anywhere in Ireland. Obviously, it's a safer bet to have LCD's rather than Plasma's shipped. I think Richersounds will also ship LCD's anywhere in the country but won't ship plasmas. RS have their own section here on Boards.ie


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Sponge Bob

championc wrote: »

I think Richersounds will also ship LCD's anywhere in the country but won't ship plasmas. RS have their own section here on Boards.ie

Richer Sounds will not ship ANY PANASONIC DOWN SOUTH which is very good of them given the mind boggling number of issues with Panasonic software and the lack of any new software to fix it.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69318244&postcount=2

"In particular on Panasonic we no longer ship ANY Panasonic TV into the ROI due to the VHF/MPEG4 issue - as you will see from our posts over the past several years we have been alerting ROI Customers to the issue with UK Spec Panas."

The VHF issue is largely a non issue now that DTT is live on the VHF transmitters ( on UHF ) but again they are doing the right thing.

Now if some of their competitors were as principled we would have a much quieter forum

bob11

fat-tony wrote: »

As of 14:00 I can confirm that the Advanced Codec flag is set for all TV channels and RTE Two (main) is set to 0x19 (dec. 25).

Tony, Does that mean it's ok to scan the dodgy panasonic TVs now ?

Or does that mean if I scan now, I will only get the RTE Two Main channel ?

Sponge Bob

It means a test channel called RTE Temp is all you get and that only shows a test card. The dodgy Panasonic is still dodgy.

See my "Amnesty" thread and contact RTENL about it

fat-tony

bob11 wrote: »

Tony, Does that mean it's ok to scan the dodgy panasonic TVs now ?

Or does that mean if I scan now, I will only get the RTE Two Main channel ?

No no - I was just confirming that the flags are still set for advanced codec, including RTE Two Temporary Channel. Sponge Bob - don't know why you think RTE Two Temp is ok for the troubled Panasonics? It's just not in HD resolution - otherwise it's the same as all the other SD channels.

Sponge Bob

All that is on RTE2 Temp is a message saying Your TV is crap get another one or a box.

AvidIrishReader

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Richer Sounds will not ship ANY PANASONIC DOWN SOUTH which is very good of them given the mind boggling number of issues with Panasonic software and the lack of any new software to fix it.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69318244&postcount=2



The VHF issue is largely a non issue now that DTT is live on the VHF transmitters ( on UHF ) but again they are doing the right thing.

Now if some of their competitors were as principled we would have a much quieter forum

Lads, you are all obviously more gifted than I am at going into the setup and reprogamming, saving to SD cards, etc. I'm but a humble joe.

Anyway, I bought a MaxT2 digital terrestrial decoder box from Satworld in Kimmage, Dublin. Now I have all TV channels back, but I have so many control boxes it's a real pain. I've connected it through one of the HDMI ports, but have lost the nice and easy Freesat/Digital/Analogue switching option that was so handy with the Panasonic.

I would never have bought this TV if I knew the problems I would encounter, and I bought this from Seamus Watters Electrical who categorically assured me that I could watch Irish channels in digital with no issue when analogue was closed off. I've emailed them, tried to call them, but no one will return my calls.

I think letters to the relevant regulatory bodies in Belfast and Dublin are now in order.

And all I wanted was to watch the telly without having to pay UPC.....

watty

AvidIrishReader wrote: »

I would never have bought this TV if I knew the problems I would encounter, and I bought this from Seamus Watters Electrical who categorically assured me that I could watch Irish channels in digital with no issue when analogue was closed off. I've emailed them, tried to call them, but no one will return my calls.

I think letters to the relevant regulatory bodies in Belfast and Dublin are now in order.
.

Then if he sold it you less than 2 years ago he is obliged to replace or refund (his choice).
http://www.techtir.ie/blog/cinocat4/no-dtt-get-money-back

Because of the Bold part.

Sponge Bob

watty wrote: »

Then if he sold it you less than 2 years ago he is obliged to replace or refund (his choice).

Of threaten the UK small claims court on him...not ours.

championc

AvidIrishReader wrote: »

Lads, you are all obviously more gifted than I am at going into the setup and reprogamming, saving to SD cards, etc. I'm but a humble joe.

Anyway, I bought a MaxT2 digital terrestrial decoder box from Satworld in Kimmage, Dublin. Now I have all TV channels back, but I have so many control boxes it's a real pain. I've connected it through one of the HDMI ports, but have lost the nice and easy Freesat/Digital/Analogue switching option that was so handy with the Panasonic.

I would never have bought this TV if I knew the problems I would encounter, and I bought this from Seamus Watters Electrical who categorically assured me that I could watch Irish channels in digital with no issue when analogue was closed off. I've emailed them, tried to call them, but no one will return my calls.

I think letters to the relevant regulatory bodies in Belfast and Dublin are now in order.

And all I wanted was to watch the telly without having to pay UPC.....

Not sure which model you have - is it a G10B ? And I assume you are also living in Dublin so maybe someone on here would make or copy an SD Card with 3 Rock scanned and already on a Hotel File. Sorry but I have a G20B so can't help

AvidIrishReader

championc wrote: »

Not sure which model you have - is it a G10B ? And I assume you are also living in Dublin so maybe someone on here would make or copy an SD Card with 3 Rock scanned and already on a Hotel File. Sorry but I have a G20B so can't help

Yes, it's a TXL32G10. Thanks for the offer anyway.

Dony

I too am sorry If I come over all ignorant. I've completely read the thread and understand about 70% of it. I start to get a bit lost when you start talking about hotel files and transfering info/backups to a sd card.
I have a TXP 42V10B bought from Mr Watters about a year ago.

I've actually never connected an aeriel to it -I just use a humax pvr box connected to it for freesat and watch analogue rte on a different set in another room.

This is all about to change as I ran in another coax cable for DTT.
So what are the do's and don'ts? What should I expect? I've been reading that when some of you were prompted to do a re-tune you lost channels that you previously had. Do I need to back up something first?
Ta.

maxg

You simply get no tv channels if you do a channel scan for dvb-t.
The channel scan was working before november and you would lose such a list after a fresh scan but you don't have such a list anyway.

Dony

maxg wrote: »

You simply get no tv channels if you do a channel scan for dvb-t.
The channel scan was working before november and you would lose such a list after a fresh scan but you don't have such a list anyway.

So what you're telling me is, had I been connected up before November I'd have held on to some channels if I didn't rescan but now I've no chance of getting anything?
Thats a pain in the nads. When buying from Watters they DEFINITELY told me I'd be able to receive the Irish digital terrestials.
Roll on Soarsat!

maxg

There is a hack available.
You could ask if Watters is willing to do the irish DTT hack at their risk.
Btw the values are different at a V10B compared to the G10 and G15 range.

STB

Dony wrote: »

So what you're telling me is, had I been connected up before November I'd have held on to some channels if I didn't rescan but now I've no chance of getting anything?
Thats a pain in the nads. When buying from Watters they DEFINITELY told me I'd be able to receive the Irish digital terrestials.
Roll on Soarsat!

Its not that the G10 cant do it. It has been deliberately crippled by Panasonic not to.

But you can tune them in if you carefully follow the hack instructions earlier in the thread.

Otherwise you might have a case for a refund with the Waters. Panasonic might take it a little more seriously then. And I am fully aware that they might even read these threads.

Laker04

Machinehead wrote: »

Yep, I totally agree. The G20B is a better TV, but I couldn't find a "bricks & mortar" retailer in Ireland that would ship to Kerry. I wanted to use an Irish retailer should I have any problems down the road & needed for return or repair, hence my reluctance with an online purchase for such a high ticket item.

U could try the Panasonic store in Limerick. They said they could import one for me if I really wanted but they were much more expensive that Seamus Watters so needless to day I went with him. No complaints there btw, telly was at my door at 9 the next morning...

watty

TBH I would not touch a Panasonic till they clear up THEIR mess.

If I bought ANY make of TV from ANYONE inside last two years and it was advertised as Digital, I'd take it back if not working. Get Replacement or Refund.

I'm baffled to be honest as to what the attraction was of Panasonic.

http://www.techtir.ie/blog/cinocat4/no-dtt-get-money-back

If you were specifically assured it would work with Irish Digital your case is cast iron.

championc

Laker04 wrote: »

U could try the Panasonic store in Limerick. They said they could import one for me if I really wanted but they were much more expensive that Seamus Watters so needless to day I went with him. No complaints there btw, telly was at my door at 9 the next morning...

Wouldn't bother with Panny Limerick - think they might be just a franchise outlet. I sent them 3 emails about getting technical info and never had one single reply.

So another 100% satisfied G20B owner then joining the club !!


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