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Nocturnal Forum Feedback Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    I wonder sometimes is there too much of an emphasis put on the Lair. The Lair seems to be the only really active thread around here most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Dominion plays metal now? :confused:

    Why does there have to be a limit to beers? if people want a beers in the captial bar or the cocktail bar in the Westin then go for it, those who want to go will go and if people want a beers in the new fibbers or the Gypsy Rose then go for it, those who want to go will go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    I've been a lurker in here basically since I joined and never really ended up posting.

    I have a question: is this forum for people of "alt" types, or for insomniacs?

    Genuine question btw :pac: 'Cuz if it's for general insomniacs, my feedback would be that it's a bit too.. erm.. well, genre-fied (e.g. defined by certain subcultures and genres) for my tastes, but some of the topics interest me and the notion of being able to actually find something to do when the rest of the forums are dead certainly has its appeals.

    Just feel pretty odd about posting as it seems a very close community, don't like intruding..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    liah wrote: »
    I've been a lurker in here basically since I joined and never really ended up posting.

    I have a question: is this forum for people of "alt" types, or for insomniacs?

    Genuine question btw :pac: 'Cuz if it's for general insomniacs, my feedback would be that it's a bit too.. erm.. well, genre-fied (e.g. defined by certain subcultures and genres) for my tastes, but some of the topics interest me and the notion of being able to actually find something to do when the rest of the forums are dead certainly has its appeals.

    Just feel pretty odd about posting as it seems a very close community, don't like intruding..
    Yeah, this is a place for people who just can't sleep as well as "alt" types. You not intruding here. I like seeing new people around these parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    liah wrote: »
    Just feel pretty odd about posting as it seems a very close community, don't like intruding..

    It isn't as close as most people would think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    liah wrote: »
    I've been a lurker in here basically since I joined and never really ended up posting.

    I have a question: is this forum for people of "alt" types, or for insomniacs?

    Genuine question btw :pac: 'Cuz if it's for general insomniacs, my feedback would be that it's a bit too.. erm.. well, genre-fied (e.g. defined by certain subcultures and genres) for my tastes, but some of the topics interest me and the notion of being able to actually find something to do when the rest of the forums are dead certainly has its appeals.

    It is for both.
    Trust me this place has had it's fluffy and sparkly momements over the years too.
    liah wrote: »
    Just feel pretty odd about posting as it seems a very close community, don't like intruding..

    All you got to do is take part, most folks are very warm and welcoming
    and happy to get to know you as much as you are willing to let them
    and
    I've never seen any sexist clap trap in here
    it's a nice break in pace form other places on the site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    In my opinion its an escape from some of the silly discussions and trolling (that i know is mostly kept in check) that happens in tCN(intended as ironically funny) and AH(not intended as such) as well. I remember going into AH once and a serious topic of conversation was raised by a poster, and the first ten posts were all puns and non serious answers and such. Granted, there are alot of puns here, but i guess they are more in keeping with the spirit of the forum as there is generally a smaller crowd in here and, well, there are SO many people in AH, it can be the case 10 seperate people reply with a pun within the first 10 seconds...which IMO can drown out the original point and/or post.

    One of the reasons i love posting here and talking to people here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    and
    I've never seen any sexist clap trap in here

    Get back into the
    Noc Forum
    !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Get back into the
    Noc Forum
    !

    You had me going there for a second! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I would like us to discuss renaming the brooding corner thread.

    I would love to copy emulate the success of tLL and their emotions thread.

    I think if we more clearly define in a title what a thread is about, more new people are likely to take part.

    A suggested title would be;

    'The Brooding Corner - have a gripe, happy, puzzled, or a '._.' - then post it here.'

    Or something good.


    What think ye?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I like the brooding corner as in. Makes me feel like Batman.
    I like the way it's just for harumphing, as opposed to serious business.


    Feedback: MOAR costumes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    But i dont brood much.

    A seperate thread seems excessive and silly.

    2c


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    TBC was created in response to mod requests not to bring down the happy mood in The Lair. The Lair is basically the place to share happy business, whereas TBC is for serious business. ;) Plus, having a thread dedicated to moodyness kind of fits into the M.O. of the forum. It reminds you of where you are i.e. The Noc Forum instead of being just another generic social forum.

    But then we're at the alt -v- vanilla argument again, so yeah, more opinions on this are welcome. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Maybe im just asking for clarification in thread titles on what they are for.

    The Brooding Corner and the Lair are probably the coolest themed thread titles on boards, but people HAVE to pay careful attention to all of the charter when they first visit to get what they are for.

    Some people like to see a thread title and dive in. Perhaps im one of these people and thats why im looking at it from that perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭reallyrose


    I like the Brooding Corner, the thread as well as the name.
    I can go whinge in it if I like. :)

    (I might go whinge in it now!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Futurecrook


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I've never seen any sexist clap trap in here.
    it's a nice break in pace form other places on the site.

    I just wanted to second this. I love that the kind of AH humour doesn't go on in here. So, thank you all for being awesome I suppose. :)
    Pter wrote: »
    Maybe im just asking for clarification in thread titles on what they are for.

    The Brooding Corner and the Lair are probably the coolest themed thread titles on boards, but people HAVE to pay careful attention to all of the charter when they first visit to get what they are for.

    Some people like to see a thread title and dive in. Perhaps im one of these people and thats why im looking at it from that perspective.

    Both of those threads explain in the first post what they're for (at least they should. If they don't they could be edited so they do). So, if people would just read the first post before they dive into posting I think that would help. The mods could just put a 'read 1st post' in the thread title then?

    Also, Liah, thanks for your input. All input is welcome so don't feel you're intruding in any way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    That is a really good suggestion....and for those of us who have been here a while it would seem to solve the problem.

    Ill shut up now after this, but im just thinking - you come into a forum and wham! - everything is easy to get and there is no flipping through indices (index's) or charters....you instantly know whats what and wheres what.

    Im not saying what i want to say properly...

    ...maybe im saying if we want new users, apart from the new threads and renewed (hopefully) interest from old posters, we need to make the forum more 'new user' friendly.

    Im so impressed with the uptake in interest from some of the more established posters surrounding this thread, but 'stop only saying hai in the Lair' and 'make more threads' are common sense. I would hope we would look at more dynamic changes in the way we do things....i think everyone so far agrees some changes need to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Futurecrook


    'you instantly know whats what and wheres what'

    This is exactly what we need. We need to make the forum more inviting to new posters somehow and less daunting... I'm just not sure how we go about that though.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,922 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    'you instantly know whats what and wheres what'

    This is exactly what we need. We need to make the forum more inviting to new posters somehow and less daunting... I'm just not sure how we go about that though.

    Having plenty of threads on a range of subjects is good way to start.

    Personally speaking, anytime I end up in a forum I haven't seen before, the first page of threads is usually a good indicator of what the forum is about.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    TBC was created in response to mod requests not to bring down the happy mood in The Lair. The Lair is basically the place to share happy business, whereas TBC is for serious business. ;) Plus, having a thread dedicated to moodyness kind of fits into the M.O. of the forum. It reminds you of where you are i.e. The Noc Forum instead of being just another generic social forum.

    But then we're at the alt -v- vanilla argument again, so yeah, more opinions on this are welcome. :)
    Pter wrote: »
    Maybe im just asking for clarification in thread titles on what they are for.

    The Brooding Corner and the Lair are probably the coolest themed thread titles on boards, but people HAVE to pay careful attention to all of the charter when they first visit to get what they are for.

    Some people like to see a thread title and dive in. Perhaps im one of these people and thats why im looking at it from that perspective.

    I'd say a seperate thread for all sorts of emotions/lighter posts and keep TBC for advice or just chatting about the glum stuff.
    TBC is much more than a rant thread imo.. its good to talk stuff out thats upsetting you and TBC fills that, whereas perhaps another thread simply for "waht made you feel whtever today" could be lighter with a space for simple rants.

    I've no problem copying in descriptions to first posts on threads :) I'm just skeptical that a majority of new folk would read it. same with charters :P
    Also, long thread titles (imo as a user) look meh. It would kinda be dumbing things way down and uglifying the forum, but as i said, thats just my opinion and if the users want it i'm more than happy to oblige.

    Pter is working on updating the index and i encourage ye to help him or give suggestions. I quite like the idea of the index afaik no/not many forums have one. In the beggining it was FC doing alot of the work suggesting things to go in it and highlighting stuff, Its a big undertaking on its own, so all help (either to Pter or by way of on thread suggestions) is appreciated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    I havent read this its to long and well snore..


    my opinion is we became to social outside of the fourm, real life things got in the way clicks formed because of it , people who didnt come to the meet-ups felt left out , people who did drama happened... some fell out , some didnt get along... blah blah blah

    I post an odd time now, mainly just to nose at Koths music suggestions in the music thread, cause he is educating me on music !ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    emo!! wrote: »
    I havent read this its to long and well snore..


    my opinion is we became to social outside of the fourm, real life things got in the way clicks formed because of it , people who didnt come to the meet-ups felt left out , people who did drama happened... some fell out , some didnt get along... blah blah
    It's true, you said what I alluded to earlier on but didn't have the bottle to actually say it. But I think it's something we must all share part of the blame in. When it comes to social forums it was always something that had a high probability of happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Ok...read through it all, some excellent suggestions folks! :)

    When I first signed up to boards this forum was the one to take me in and look after me :p Plus it was my very first beers, made a point of that as I love the place.

    Use to be very nocturnal and constantly posting here but college did begin to get in the way of my Boards life around exam times. Then I was away all summer and had no internet access at all!! Plus after a few months of being mostly on the Noc forum I eventually started checking out other forums which most new folks do at some stage. Always dropped back in to check here but it did seem to go downhill quite quickly.

    As for this whole alt and vanilla thing...maybe I need new glasses or something but I've never heard that reference until now. Don't think I'm alt at all...DooM/Pter/Lizzy .....or any of the rest of ye that I have met would never class me as alt. Probably class me as annoyingly happy and chirpy but no matter what I've always felt welcomed! :D


    With the whole social thing making things messy at times...well that's bound to happen but it aint the forums fault (or any forums fault for that matter). It's the peoples fault themselves so they shouldn't make the forum suffer just because they have fallen out with someone. If folks can understand what I mean, not meaning that in any bad/offensive way but it's the way I see it. I don't like a poster on another forum but not going to stop posting there just because they are there too...
    What I liked about here is the idea of not just beers, there has been stand up comedy nights and cinema trips too. Throw in a bowling night maybe! :pac::p

    Can't really top any of the suggestions here but if I think of anything will throw it up.

    Wouldn't be the best thread starter either but I'll help contribute to any ones that are started :)

    Will leave it there for now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Toni, im charging you with making a list of the suggestions....

    Seeing as you are the forums list maker :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Pter wrote: »
    Toni, im charging you with making a list of the suggestions....

    Seeing as you are the forums list maker :p


    Ahhh fook!


    Caught out >.<


    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    No-one escapes the pterminator.

    Now back to the feedbacks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Best example I can give you TT is that when one says alt in this forum it just means that someone has a lot of nocturnal themed interests. I mean I if take myself as an example, I love vampires, batman and horror. That's what I mean by nocturnal themed interests. :) Very true on everything you said btw. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Futurecrook


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    With the whole social thing making things messy at times...well that's bound to happen but it aint the forums fault (or any forums fault for that matter). It's the peoples fault themselves so they shouldn't make the forum suffer just because they have fallen out with someone. If folks can understand what I mean, not meaning that in any bad/offensive way but it's the way I see it. I don't like a poster on another forum but not going to stop posting there just because they are there too...

    Exactly. I don't really buy any of the 'we got too social in real life' stuff. Isn't that the point of a social forum? People are always going to have differences/disagreements but you can't throw your toys out of the pram every time you're not getting along with someone.

    As Toni said, I don't mean that in an offensive way but it's the only way I can see it really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Exactly. I don't really buy any of the 'we got too social in real life' stuff. Isn't that the point of a social forum? People are always going to have differences/disagreements but you can't throw your toys out of the pram every time you're not getting along with someone.

    As Toni said, I don't mean that in an offensive way but it's the only way I can see it really.

    I concur....but then, as with life, these things are probably down to a combo of factors. Perhaps it played a part. Also having said that, i dont think there are too many who have left the forum outright, despite any personal differences. People may have just adjusted their posting patterns.

    God im boring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭RxQueen


    I thought the nocturnal form was a nocturnal form not a social form...

    Thats just my opinion and as you are aware some people do think the same as me.

    I havent stopped posting here just cause I dont like certain people, I stopped posting here for a few things, one cause if you dont go to these meets there is very little to talk about. If I stopped doing stuff cause I didnt like people and threw my toys out of the pram so to speak, Id have to permanently stay inside my house.:rolleyes:

    This whole ALT thing is correct to... it has an air of pretentiousness about it lately... and it bores me

    If this is a social forum then the name needs to change... cause it sure as hell isnt a nocturnal form..

    peace


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    emo!! wrote: »
    I thought the nocturnal form was a nocturnal form not a social form...

    Thats just my opinion and as you are aware some people do think the same as me.

    I havent stopped posting here just cause I dont like certain people, I stopped posting here for a few things, one cause if you dont go to these meets there is very little to talk about. If I stopped doing stuff cause I didnt like people and threw my toys out of the pram so to speak, Id have to permanently stay inside my house.:rolleyes:

    This whole ALT thing is correct to... it has an air of pretentiousness about it lately... and it bores me

    If this is a social forum then the name needs to change... cause it sure as hell isnt a nocturnal form..

    peace


    Don't think anybody was directing that towards you personally emo just in case you thought they were!

    Nocturnal forum is a social forum...there have always been meet ups of some sorts going on if that's what is meant by social forum. Same with TLL/TGC/Motors/most forums on boards. They all have their core subject matters and stuff but the majority of them all still meet up so in my view they all social forums as such.

    As with any meet up there will always be a buzz before and after for awhile. Know I didn't make it to few things organised but I didn't feel left out as well couldn't be helped when I live so far away.

    It hasn't been nocturnal now for good while but I think this feedback thread has been long overdue and a kick in the bum(:pac:) so to speak for us to address issues and concerns.

    Oh one suggestion I could make then for people who maybe are far away/can't make it to nights out.... We could organise a night "IN" on the forum where the majority of folks would be online and available to chat....have a few drinks in their own house if they want while chatting :P Just a thought!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Oh one suggestion I could make then for people who maybe are far away.... We could organise a night ON the forum where the majority of folks would be online and available to chat....have a few drinks in their own house if they want while chatting :P Just a thought!
    I support this plan fully!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Oh one suggestion I could make then for people who maybe are far away/can't make it to nights out.... We could organise a night "IN" on the forum where the majority of folks would be online and available to chat....have a few drinks in their own house if they want while chatting :P Just a thought!

    I think thats a great idea!

    Someone add that to the list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭reallyrose


    I'm up for that.
    In fact, I could dj! I could make Beeyootiful musics for you. I do online radios anyway, so I can steal the server for a night for us. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    You biter TT! :D I fully support your suggestion though. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    I support this plan fully!

    Considering where you live you most definitely need nights like this :)
    Pter wrote: »
    I think thats a great idea!

    Someone add that to the list.

    -.-

    I'm on it!! You give me no peace man :p
    reallyrose wrote: »
    I'm up for that.
    In fact, I could dj! I could make Beeyootiful musics for you. I do online radios anyway, so I can steal the server for a night for us. :P

    See knew you were awesome the minute you said Bath IceCreams :pac:



    Noc Forum aint or was never dead.....was only sleeping for once in it's life :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Just two points-

    this is a social forum, has been since day one. its even said it in the charter for the last, year and 3/4s? i dunno, i cant remember how long the thingy was last updated, but even before that it was. :)

    " it is important to note that this is a Social Forum..."
    "We feel fairly lenient since this is a social forum..."
    "This is a social forum. Things are more laid back here and topics can be numerous." etc etc.

    Fair point, some people mightn't get it. But does that mean BGRH would have to change its name for some people who didn't get it?

    I came up with this idea, Doom supported and expanded it with me and Kharn gave it life. thats our creation myth :P
    Its always been a social forum, even before we knew the term. Its a social forum with a loose theme.

    Noted, we may need people to start more threads to bolster that, but thats hardly anyones fault :)


    god, everything becomes wall o text when i finally post :P


    The beers:
    I kinda get whats been said about the beers, but i haven't gone to one in ages. I also havent posted properly in ages before this,even if i was lurking, but it had nothing to do with beers or users in general. it was more a i'm busy and i'm not so in the mood for boards.ie.

    That being said, i've still kept contact with a few users i havent had a drink with in ages. i've talked to cyber alot since my noc-non posting spree, and we've never met :pac:

    So i think maybe if a number of folk feel that theres nothing but socialising to talk about/being talked about, maybe they too could start threads? it would help and it would be more constructive than not posting or being annoyed.
    I really like Tonis idea, i've seen it elsewhere and its great.

    mod note

    lil reminder-
    please leave feedback, but try and be constructive and try not get annoyed or angry at people for not seeing it the way you do. if it helps, take a breather and wait a while before responding, i'm super happy and proud that the threads a) gotten lots of posts and b) gotten so far without any battles. keep up the good work gang.
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Exactly. I don't really buy any of the 'we got too social in real life' stuff. Isn't that the point of a social forum? People are always going to have differences/disagreements but you can't throw your toys out of the pram every time you're not getting along with someone.

    As Toni said, I don't mean that in an offensive way but it's the only way I can see it really.

    You're spot on FC, and you're right when you suggest that people should be big enough to get past their personal issues with each other and not let it affect the forum.

    However, it's a tad unfair to take that attitude when none of us haven't a breeze in regards to what has gone on in "real life" between people. For all we know, it could be perfectly understandable that they have stopped partaking in this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    You're spot on FC, and you're right when you suggest that people should be big enough to get past their personal issues with each other and not let it affect the forum.

    However, it's a tad unfair to take that attitude when none of us haven't a breeze in regards to what has gone on in "real life" between people. For all we know, it could be perfectly understandable that they have stopped partaking in this forum.


    Obviously if it was something major to them or hurtful or very annoying to them then it's understandable they would not enjoy the forum esp if that person they have issues with is still around. Hopefully in time folks could resolve issues if that's possible...if not that's a pity but that's also life which can be crappy :(

    Think we more discussing simple annoying things...or being slightly ticked off at people/not liking certain folks for whatever reasons and then giving up totally on the forum. That type of thing.

    Also...I aint a biter don't believe what ye have heard :p
    (see yer previous post) :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Obviously if it was something major to them or hurtful or very annoying to them then it's understandable they would not enjoy the forum esp if that person they have issues with is still around. Hopefully in time folks could resolve issues if that's possible...if not that's a pity but that's also life which can be crappy :(

    Think we more discussing simple annoying things...or being slightly ticked off at people/not liking certain folks for whatever reasons and then giving up totally on the forum. That type of thing.

    Aye true enough. Probably best to get off this topic of discussion anyway, it can only end ugly. :pac:

    Anyway, idea time again, I know that ages ago that we were toying with the prospect of getting a creative writing thing going on. I mean I'd be up for that, since all I have is free time these days. :rolleyes: :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    I used to be a big poster here when the forum was first created, went to all the beers etc.

    To be honest, I stopped posting long before the forum became quiet because
    1)I just don't have the energy for chat threads and found them kind of annoying in the end(trying to keep up and whatnot).
    2)The forum subculture became more nocturnal focused(rather than just being a late night forum for people who stayed up late for whatever reason and wanted a place to talk) and it didn't really interest me.

    Nothing wrong with either, but both contributed to me stopping reading/posting :)

    If there had have been more social events with new people, I probably would have held on longer to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Well do you think you will come to more social events in the future maybe?
    I'm sure there is plenty more new posters that you aint met since you last stopped posting :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,746 ✭✭✭✭FewFew


    Right, read through this sprawling monster of a thread (which I'm quite happy to see because it only began a few days ago.)

    I must say in the greater scheme of Noc things I'm but a baby, but honestly it's the first forum on boards that I've felt at home in. This might sound odd, but in other forums I'm either doing work due to a vested interest, or I'm completely on edge due to a running clique type thing. I found the noc forum really welcoming, especially in a time when I was looking for a forum to call home.

    I must admit I never realised there was a strong "alt" vibe to the Noc. I took it as a forum for those who stay up late, and that is generally me, I wrote the majority of my thesis between the hours of 2am and 8am. When I saw photos of most of the regulars I was actually surprised that so many of the lads were wearing black and sporting facial hair and piercings. That's not in anyway a judgment, that's just showing how much I was oblivious to the whole "alt" vibe running through the room. So, I guess that means I never felt isolated because I was too "vanilla".

    One thing that dragged me into the Noc was the various tournaments. I know this isn't the comic book forum, but I really enjoyed the tournaments and also the attitude that you didn't have to be an expert, in fact I really enjoyed LZ filling me in on the back story of comics I hadn't read in years. Also the tournaments generated a bit of banter, and I thought the "tournament discussion" threads absorbed most of the non-voting banter, I rarely noticed it straying into the Lair.

    The Lair strikes me as a bit of an odd place. I always do my best to say hello in a few sentences, I never just say "hi", but many people do just say hello, and then for some reason the next 4 or 5 posts will be people saying hello back... that's a bit pointless. Having said that, the Lair is a bit of a magical place, where people can open up after a while and have a proper discussion. Unfortunately too much of the time posts are like "is there anybody there?" ... cue silence.

    I've noticed a major separation between people who go to Nocs beers and people who frequent the lair. Judging from various posts about the place, I really want to hang out with the people who frequent the Noc Beers, but most of those people just appear for the Beers threads. I'm left wishing that the likes of Deki, Links or Cyber were going to the beers mainly because those are the people I've built up relations with through the lair. I'm sure all the old regulars are lovely (in fact I was really disappointed that I couldn't make the last beers) but I just don't have any reference for most of ye because you're never about.

    I too have gone from a position of being an aul insomniac with no need for the daylight, to working a respectable 9-5 type job, so I can't do all nighters, but I sure as hell check this forum daily. The likes of Nocturnal Nerds keeps me going when all else fails.

    I think emphasizing the "alternative" interests of the forum is a great idea, not because I'm totally alt (I usually wear a suit everyday) but because I'm interested in comics, vampires, werewolves (infact I'm in the middle of writing a trilogy of werewolf novels) and the like. So, if a square like myself has an interest in some of these alt themes, surely others will find something too.

    Ultimately, if we want to attract new members we need to formulate our sales pitch. Are we saying "hey, come in here if you stay up late!" or do we say "Hey come in here if you're alternative!". We can cater to both obviously, but you'll have to figure out how to sell it.


    Also, as an aside, why are Beers photos so slow to come about? I'm sure they're already in the ether, but I haven't seen any. It might be an aid to inclusion to post a few photos to say "yes, here's the Noc beers you never made it to, but at least now you have a sense of what you missed." ... I started this paragraph thinking "we should really make a noc beers video" but then realised Galvasean might be about and judge my editing skills :)

    We've a really friendly and welcoming crew here (relative to what I've experienced elsewhere) so why not make the page really welcoming by including people in off-site activities as much as possible? I'm sure our foreign members (like Deki and Cyber) would love the chance to chuckle at photos of beers.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I really wish people would get off this seperating into "alt" and "vanilla" thing to be honest. It's destructive and devisive imo.

    I don't do it in real life, I don't see why I should do it here. What good can it do? It just looks like segregation tbh, and people taking entrenched positions on either "side" helps no one.

    There's always been an undertone of nerdiness and cultdom here and it's never been a church-and-state type of thing til those words were mentioned. It happens. Some people want more of it. But that doesn't mean you have to post in those threads or yer out.

    It's perfectly possible for us to maintain those srs bznz threads and the light hearted "I'm just up all night, amuse me" part of the forum too.

    With my mod hat on, I can see that this forum needs a direction. Simply "being a place to chat about...stuff, at night" I could see Boards not being happy with. We need to decide on that direction, but that in no way demands we exclude people. In fact, that position would be antithetical to my personal way of thinking. It's called the Nocturnal Forum and people who are simply insomniac or interested in looking at anything dark without declaring themselves "alt" should be welcomed.


    Why should a thread organising, say, a trip to next years horrorthon (I missed it this year, we should deffo do it next year) affect people who just want to chillax in the lair? On either "side"?


    So anyways, fewcy's post is a good one. We need to decide what we want and how we go about looking for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Someone mentioned a last man standing tournament....what is that exactly?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Pter wrote: »
    Someone mentioned a last man standing tournament....what is that exactly?
    Something along the lines of an up all night challenge I assume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Something along the lines of an up all night challenge I assume.

    Oh that would be interesting and very nocturnal themed. Kudos to whomever suggested it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭reallyrose


    Oh no, Last Man Standing is different.

    It is played thus:
    People sign up to play (initially)
    So you have a list of names and each person has 100 points (or so)

    One post every 24 hours.
    Subtract 20 (-20) and add 10 ( 10) the -20 can be either 2x10 or just -20, the 10 cannot be broke up.
    Anyone can play, even if you are not on the list.
    If you play during a game, you get on the list for the next one.


    So I might go

    Noc 1 - 80 (-20)
    Noc 2 - 100
    Noc 3 - 110 (+10)
    Noc 4 - 100
    Noc 5 - 100
    Noc 6 - 100

    Once someone gets to 0, they are removed. And the last one left wins! :D
    I've played it on other forums and it's fun. We could change the rules about a little, make it one post every 12 hours / 2 hours / whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Who referees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    reallyrose wrote: »
    Oh<li class="bb_list">Subtract 20 (-20) and add 10 ( 10) the -20 can be either 2x10 or just -20, the 10 cannot be broke up.


    Don't get this bit....you mean subtract 20 if they don't post in 24hrs and add 10 if they do keep posting everyday??


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