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What stops you doing illegal stuff?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    I break minor laws all the time as most people do i imagine: driving laws, drunk and disorderly laws, minor drug offences, illegal downloading etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    My mum would kill me if i got caught. That thought alone...

    My mum wouldn't kill me.

    But her look of disappointment would.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    If it feels wrong I won't do it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Fizman wrote: »
    - The odd phone call while driving.
    - The odd text while driving.
    - Being over the speed limit on certain roads.
    - Downloading terabytes of music/TV/films

    Illegal stuff is performed quite regularly by most I'd say.
    Note to self. Do not accept a lift from Fizman

    Note to self: Don't drive on the same roads as Fizman. As a vulnerable motorcyclist, I don't want to get squished because he wasn't paying attention to his surroundings.

    :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    There's plenty of fun legal stuff to keep you happy if you're that way inclined, but there are particular flavours of fun you can't enjoy within the confines of the law.

    It's like asking what's the point in apples when you already have tasty oranges.

    yeah... well.... Kiwi's are where it's at.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭treborflynn


    it started off with paper clips and the odd ruler, then before i knew it i was punching children and injecting heroin into puppies, but i never really BROKE the law as such. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Common decency here.

    Mind you, I wouldn't guarantee that I could take the complete high moral ground when it comes to driving at precisely under the speed limit when it's safe enough to do so (motorways, etc), so that might make me a bit of a hypocrite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Ghost Estate


    The law is only another man-made thing. Its far from perfect so as long as nobody gets hurt im not too pushed about me or anyone else breaking the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    It depends on what illegal stuff you mean?

    What stops me from hurting babies, stealing, killing etc is that I don't want to do those things.

    As for what stops me breaking a red light in the middle of the night on a deserted road, smoking a puff off a joint, taking a pack of post-it's from work or giving a tradesman a nixer when I know he also gets jobseekers???

    Well Only the fear of getting caught if I'm honest!!!

    Not that I do those terrible things! :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    To be honest? Nothing except my own moral compass and even that's contextual, I still have done and do illegal things (drugs, piracy, etc).

    I'd never do anything that directly impacts or harms another human being, though.. those comments in that thread freaked me out a bit, even if they are just jokes. The idea that someone would violate me without my consent is, frankly, frightening, and therefore I wouldn't want to do it to anyone else, whether I'd be found out or not!

    Like that scene in Kill Bill where she's in the hospital and they're selling her while she's unconscious. Really messed up! :eek:

    People who only don't do things for fear of being caught really bother me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    I stop me.Most of the time.I grow weed and sell a bit of it.I don't see it as illegal.That aside I'm as good as gold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    I stop me.Most of the time.I grow weed and sell a bit of it.I don't see it as illegal.That aside I'm as good as gold.

    You're not doing a very Good job at stopping yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    Usually sobering up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    myself mainly, my morals and then the fear of getting caught


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    Best Answer ever haha


    Blestb Answbler ebler blabla :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Sharkey 10 wrote: »
    Nothing stops me i do things i want unless i beleive them to be wrong , I never agreed to abide by the law of this land. I break the law on a regular basis and i suspect most others here do also
    When I read this I immediately thought of Cartman, ''I do wha' I wan'!'' :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I... just don't have any motivation to do anything illegal...

    What's the point?

    Monetary gain.

    Anyways, as for me, I wouldn't do any stuff that would harm people. Obvious stuff like assaulting/raping a person, but that affects robbing a store and similar stuff, you can't get the money unless you stab/whack a human being.

    I would never sell heroine/crack any other hard drugs, I am not the person to inflict misery on people, I have a soul. But I WOULD, for example if an old man/woman died up the road from me and had lots of money stashed away in the house and no benefictors, take some of it :D (if not all)

    And I would beat up a scummer if I suspected any bad doing from him, give a scummer a bad beating. But thats a scummer then, not a human being.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    The nearby So Cal jails dress you in orange, and THAT is not my colour!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Hedman


    Empathy.

    I'd imagine it sucks to be murdered so therefore i wouldn't want to inflict that on anyone else. People who say they wouldn't do it because of a fear of punishment scare me tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,358 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    I have long been of the opinion that what we choose to do and not do is not simply about being caught. Empathy is part of it like Hedman says but I think it is Empathy not just to those whom the crime is being committed on, but those who it could be committed on… or in other words Empathy with all of society around me.

    What I mean by this is essentially we wish to refrain from the actions that we do not want to be perpetrated in our society. I do not refrain from stealing an old ladies handbag full of money merely because it is wrong and I empathise with her feelings on the matter… but because I know if I did perpetrate such an act that I would be contributing to the construction of a society where such acts are perpetrated. What of my own mother or my own partners when they are older? Do I wish for them to live in a society where such things are done?

    When I get up and give my seat to an old lady on a bus, I do not simply do it to bring joy to her or satisfaction to myself… nor do I do it because I want someone to give me their seat in the future. I do it because I want to live in a society where that is the type of thing that is done. I want to know when my mother leaves the house for a bus today that she is going out into a society where people will give her a seat if she requires it and I sit at home content in the knowledge that I have done what little I personally can to ensure that is what will occur.

    I once wrote more on this idea here:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    If I agree with a law I'll obey it, if not I won't. I agree with the majority of laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Not being able to figure out how to commit the most profitable crime without being caught has so far kept me from doing illegal stuff.

    Now i give it a little more thought, maybe a carreer as a politician might be just fitting the above description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Common sense and the fact that I have no desire to break the law, can't see the point or appeal.

    Besides which I don't want to end up with a record or shame my family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    liah wrote: »
    To be honest? Nothing except my own moral compass and even that's contextual, I still have done and do illegal things (drugs, piracy, etc).

    I'd never do anything that directly impacts or harms another human being, though..

    Drugs fund criminal gangs and terrorists. And both of them certainly harm other people. So while you are not directly harming someone, you are supporting those that do.

    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    Common sense and the fact that I have no desire to break the law, can't see the point or appeal.

    Besides which I don't want to end up with a record or shame my family.
    What of you did something that broke the law but you thought was right?
    Would it then become wrong because it was illegal?

    This is a minor one but say you break traffic lights with someone on the way to a&e?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    repercussions???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    Illegal? Nothing at all.

    Things which are morally wrong? My compass. Illegal doesn't automatically mean wrong. It isn't wrong to smoke dope, it isn't wrong for a 17 year old to have sex with a 16 year old and it isn't wrong to bribe the guy in the filling station to sell me alcohol after 10pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Drugs fund criminal gangs and terrorists. And both of then certainly harm other people. So while you are not directly harming someone, you are supporting those that do.

    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.

    Does you planting a seed fund criminal gangs and terrorists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    Drugs fund criminal gangs and terrorists. And both of then certainly harm other people. So while you are not directly harming someone, you are supporting those that do.

    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.
    If they were legalized then this problem would be gone but since they havent been made legal , what can i do? Apart from not taking them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Little Acorn


    Well even if the any of the stuff that lands you in jail like murders, assault etc. were legal, I think the majority of people would still NOT want to do any of these things, so I guess it's just common sense and morality that keeps most people from breaking the law.

    Looking at that If Time Stood Still thread,
    I think I would probably rob a ****load of stuff:
    A massive telly, a top of the range laptop that I could keep as a spare[cos i love my own one], a top of the range mobile, hundreds of dvds and maybe a few albums, new furniture and paint for my mum's house, a few really expensive fillet steaks and some junk food, enough alcohol and cigs to last a year, some really nice jewellery,perfume, and enough gorgous clothes, shoes and handbags to do me for years.
    [This is providing that I had some people with me who were not frozen in time, to help me carry stuff, and drive all the trucks I would need for carrying the stuff]:pac:

    Now in reality I find stealing wrong because the amount of stealing that happens on a daily basis seriously affects businesses because so many people do it, and I hate when I hear that a small possibly family run business has been robbed blind.
    So my robbing spree would be on the condition that it was a one off, and I was the only person in the entire world who could do it.

    It would be so much fun! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    mikom wrote: »
    Does you planting a seed fund criminal gangs and terrorists?

    Fair point. But the vast majority of drugs are not home grown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.

    Did you take the legal highs back when they were actually legal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Drugs fund criminal gangs and terrorists. And both of them certainly harm other people. So while you are not directly harming someone, you are supporting those that do.

    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.
    Coffee/Bananas/Mobile phones/everything funds slavery/terrorism/child labour/everything bad, high horse down from, etc. etc. etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Coffee/Bananas/Mobile phones/everything funds slavery/terrorism/child labour/everything bad, high horse down from, etc. etc. etc.

    +1. I get the feeling he wouldn't want to take drugs anyway, but i guess hopping on the horse and declaring he doesn't do it out of some sense of morality about gangs sounds better than "Just not my thing."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Drugs fund criminal gangs and terrorists. And both of them certainly harm other people. So while you are not directly harming someone, you are supporting those that do.

    And that's one of the main reasons I will never use illegal drugs, regardless of how 'harmless' they are, or how 'relaxed' / 'good' they make you feel.

    Some drugs do fund terrorists and criminal gangs.Some like cocaine and heroin even fund the CIA(United Fruit,Chiquita,Dulles,Air America etc)

    I'm not implying that the CIA are good guys here btw.They are the biggest terrorists of all.If you're a fan of their work, then you shouldn't worry about the legality of drugs.

    The weed I grow and smoke and sell does not fund such creeps.I regenerate my own seed stock every year.It's all me,so unless I am terrorist, then I don't see the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    For stealing, its getting caught. I'm not going to claim any higher moral ground on that one, I like free stuff as much as the next person, everything else its because I disagree with it. I'd still feel really guilty if I stole anything though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Did you take the legal highs back when they were actually legal?

    Nope....never needed artificial substances to make me feel good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Some drugs do fund terrorists and criminal gangs.Some like cocaine and heroin even fund the CIA(United Fruit,Chiquita,Dulles,Air America etc)

    I'm not implying that the CIA are good guys here btw.They are the biggest terrorists of all.If you're a fan of their work, then you shouldn't worry about the legality of drugs.

    The weed I grow and smoke and sell does not fund such creeps.I regenerate my own seed stock every year.It's all me,so unless I am terrorist, then I don't see the problem.

    As I mentioned above, it's a fair point if you grow your own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Nope....never needed artificial substances to make me feel good.

    You will in the future.
    We all get old and sick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Nothing, I am the law.


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