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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    kryogen wrote: »
    so, if the fav is 10/3 and the second fav is 9/2 you also rule out the second fav and back the three below it???

    sorry, just trying to get your system right in my head

    I do this on bet fair, 10/3 on betfair is 4.3 rougly, 9/2 on betfair is 5.5 betfair
    4..3 is not within 1.00 of 5.5 so no in that case i'd only eliminate one,
    But in bookies i can see you point, as prices are always same in bookies, yesterday i think there was 4 6/1's in race i played, on betfair they were all different prices and easy to pick my three,
    there have been loads of cases where in the bookies i would not have been on the correct three in market, Thats why i only use betfair for this as its easy work out next three in market just before they run,
    example 4.35 f 5.44, 5.67. 5.90... < in bookies the would look 10/3 9/2 9/2 9/2 and be confusing, and would not pay the extra 0.67 of a pt. all adds up,

    I,M DUE A LOSS TODAY, BEEN ON GOOD RUN ,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Well done again man just one more thing regarding your clear profit, should it not be 3.43 as 2 of the points out of your 5.43 is your stake back, maybe I'm reading it wrong.


    2.25 WOLVES, WINNER 5.81BF
    3.00 WOLVES WINNER 5.62 BF

    I assure you its all correct, 5.81 bf wins, so i minus 3 from it to give me my clear profit 2.81
    5.62 bf wins i minus 3 to give my clear profit 2.62, which on day is 5.43 clear profit,
    I throw 2 pts down the drain everyrace i win, in return it gives me a excellent strike rate, so its a trade off
    Most pros would not be happy to knowingly throwing 2pts away every race,
    But i,m no good at picking horses, i,m good at systems :P
    And if i can return more pts than pricewise every month for same amount staked then who cares, pts are pts, doesnt matter how u get them,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Letyourselfgo


    Sorry I read it wrong, I now see where you have points won you've already deducted the stake, my bad.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    NO rule changes yet, as above

    3.05 MARKET RASEN
    3.55 SEDGEFIELD

    3.05 MARKET RASEN , LOSER - 3PTS
    3.55 SEDGEFIELD, LOSER - 3PTS.

    STAKED 6
    LOST 6
    WON 0
    LOSS OF 6


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    RESULTS FOR JAN 2011

    STAKED 115PTS
    WON 112.48TS
    LOST 92PTS

    CLEAR PROFIT 20.48PTS

    18% ROI

    RESULTS FOR DEC 2010

    STAKED 115

    AND 22.00 PTS PROFIT


    TWO MONTHS OF PROFIT, AND I KNOW I HAVE BACKED LOTS OF SILLY
    RACES, WISHFUL THINKING THAT FAVOURITE WOULD LOSE RATHER
    THAN PUTTING EFFORT INTO MY RACES,
    THIS MONTH I'LL BE MORE DISCIPLINED, HOPE TO IMPROVE GREATLY
    ________________________________________________________________
    FEB 2011 RESULTS SO FAR
    Staked 30
    Won 43.38
    Lost 23
    Profit 20.38PTS

    ROI OVER 68%




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    NO rule changes yet, as above

    3.35 LINGFIELD
    4.40 LINGFIELD

    Im thinking i should not eliminate two horses if the favourite is a high price 5.30 bf so on, as i eliminated a 6.20 bf yesterday, and it won
    ie 5.30 and 6.20 are within 1.00 of each other, but with a price so high i should make a new rule not to do this if favourite trades above 5.00 bf

    ANYWAY, NO RULE CHANGE YET, I'LL CONTINUE ON,
    WITH THE 13 PTS I GAINED ON PAPER ON SUNDAY I,M 33PTS UP THIS MONTH FROM 42 STAKED,, ( not adding my 13pts to thread though) as not proofed,

    Game on


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    NO rule changes yet, as above

    2.20 SOUTHWELL - 3PTS

    TWO RACES IN ABOVE POST - 6PTS


    -9PTS FOR TOTAL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    DAM IT, PICKING RIGHT RACES AND GETTING NO LUCK,
    ATLEAST THE FAVOURITES ARE FLOPPING :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    2.50 SOUTHWELL - 3pts
    3.00 MUSSLEBURG WINS BF 8.28
    4.10 MUSSLEBURG - 3PTS
    4.55 KEMPTON - 3PTS. < a mistake race, i'll add it in,
    5.10 WOLVES - 3pts
    5.40 WOLVES - 3pts


    18PTS STAKED. BIGGEST DAY IN A WHILE,, ONE AT A TIME THOUGH,,,,,,,,,
    I CAN STOP ANYTIME,,,,,,,,,:P

    STAKED 18
    LOST 17 PTS !
    WON 5.28PTS
    LOSS 11.72


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    NO rule changes yet, as above






    2.05 LINGFIELD - 3pts
    2.50 AYR
    WINS bf 9.40
    2.35 LINGFIELD - 3PTS
    4.15 LINGFIELD -3PTS

    STAKED 12
    LOST 11
    WON 8.40
    LOSS 2.60PTS


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    NO rule changes yet, as above

    5.10 EXETER WINS BF6.37 BF

    STAKED 3
    LOST 2
    WON 5.37 PTS
    PROFIT 3.27 PTS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    2.50 SOUTHWELL - 3pts
    3.00 MUSSLEBURG WINS BF 8.28
    4.10 MUSSLEBURG - 3PTS
    4.55 KEMPTON - 3PTS. < a mistake race, i'll add it in,
    5.10 WOLVES - 3pts
    5.40 WOLVES - 3pts


    18PTS STAKED. BIGGEST DAY IN A WHILE,, ONE AT A TIME THOUGH,,,,,,,,,
    I CAN STOP ANYTIME,,,,,,,,,:P

    STAKED 18
    LOST 17 PTS !
    WON 5.28PTS
    LOSS 11.72

    added wrong

    STAKED 18
    LOST 17
    WON 7.28
    LOSS OF 9.72


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    RESULTS FOR JAN 2011

    STAKED 115PTS
    WON 112.48TS
    LOST 92PTS

    CLEAR PROFIT 20.48PTS

    18% ROI

    RESULTS FOR DEC 2010

    STAKED 115

    AND 22.00 PTS PROFIT


    TWO MONTHS OF PROFIT, AND I KNOW I HAVE BACKED LOTS OF SILLY
    RACES, WISHFUL THINKING THAT FAVOURITE WOULD LOSE RATHER
    THAN PUTTING EFFORT INTO MY RACES,
    THIS MONTH I'LL BE MORE DISCIPLINED, HOPE TO IMPROVE GREATLY
    ________________________________________________________________
    FEB 2011 RESULTS SO FAR
    Staked 72
    Won 64.43
    Lost 62
    Profit 2.43 PTS

    STILL IN PROFIT AFTER AN AWFUL BAD RUN,
    THAT IN ITSELF GIVES ME HOPE




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go




    5.40 WOLVES


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go




    5.40 WOLVES

    5.40 wolves WINNER BF 7.76

    STAKED 3
    LOST 2
    WON 6.67 PTS
    PROFIT 4.67PTS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go


    4.20 SOUTHWELL only going to eliminate one favourite in this race, even though there is one with in 1.00 of it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go


    4.20 SOUTHWELL only going to eliminate one favourite in this race, even though there is one with in 1.00 of it

    Crazy, late late money for ACE MASTER and it rocks home as favourite, was in my top three until that late money, wanted it to win, not as favourite,, fixed race,:confused:


    -3pts


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go



    5.10 KEMPTON - 3pts
    5.40 KEMPTON - 3pts
    6.10 KEMPTON - 3pts
    6.40 KEMPTON -3pts
    7.40 KEMPTON +7.64 bf
    8.10 KEMPTON +6.42 bf

    STAKED 18
    LOST 14
    WON 12.06 PTS
    LOSS 1.94PTS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go




    5.30 WOLVES + 6.51 BF
    7.00 WOLVES -3PTS

    STAKED 6
    LOST 5
    WON 5.51
    PROFIT 0.51 PTS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go


    1.50 LINGFIELD
    2.20 LINGFIELD
    2.40 SANDOWN
    3.45 FAKENHAM

    -12 pts


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go


    2.55 LINGFIELD -3PTS
    3.25 LINGFIELD -3PTS
    4.00 LINGFIELD WINNER 7.22 BF
    5.10 LINGFIELD WINNER 9.53 BF

    STAKED 12
    LOST 10 PTS
    WON 14.75 PTS
    PROFIT 4.75


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    RESULTS FOR JAN 2011

    STAKED 115PTS
    WON 112.48TS
    LOST 92PTS

    CLEAR PROFIT 20.48PTS

    18% ROI

    RESULTS FOR DEC 2010

    STAKED 115

    AND 22.00 PTS PROFIT


    TWO MONTHS OF PROFIT, AND I KNOW I HAVE BACKED LOTS OF SILLY
    RACES, WISHFUL THINKING THAT FAVOURITE WOULD LOSE RATHER
    THAN PUTTING EFFORT INTO MY RACES,
    THIS MONTH I'LL BE MORE DISCIPLINED, HOPE TO IMPROVE GREATLY
    ________________________________________________________________
    FEB 2011 RESULTS SO FAR
    Staked 126
    Won 103.42
    Lost 110.00
    Loss of -6.58 PTS

    I'v finally entered a loss , still no discipline, staked too much in one day, i'll play 2 more races this month,
    try to get it to a + for the month


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    1.50 KEMPTON


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    VALENTINO
    ROYAL
    FORTUNATE


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    argosy2006 wrote: »
    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go

    1.50 KEMPTON


    1.50 KEMPTON , WINNER FORTUNATE BF 8.74

    STAKED 3
    LOST 2
    WON 7.74 PTS
    PROFIT 5.74 PTS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    Backing next three in market after the favourite on BF
    Eliminating also one horse within 1.00 of favourite
    if thats how prices go


    5.25 KEMPTON


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    EASTERN GIFT, beating by a pimple on other horses nose! caught on the line
    DICHOH
    HAVING A BALL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    NEW MONTH,
    GOING TO ACTUALLY NAME MY HORSES THIS MONTH
    3 HORSES PER RACE

    3.50 BANGOR
    NUMIDE
    OPEN DAY
    DEVOTION TO DUTY , ____ NUMIDE WINS 5.95 BF

    4.20 BANGOR
    SULLUMO
    OUR JIM
    SOUTH O 'THE BORDER _____ NO WINNER - 3PTS

    STAKED 6
    LOST 5
    WON 4.95
    LOSS OF 0.05


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    3.30 ludlow
    ALESANDRO
    LEXICON LAD
    NICEONEFRANKIE __________ -3pts

    3.40 southwell
    SILKBOUNTY
    non runner
    BIGALO VERA B
    SAILING NORTH __________ -2pts

    4.40 SOUTHWELL
    MOTTLEY CREW
    WINNER BF 8.20 BF
    REALT NA MARA
    FINAL SALUTE______________ -2PTS


    STAKED 8
    LOST 7
    WON 7.20 PTS
    PROFIT 0.20 PT


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭argosy2006


    3.00 newbury

    QUILINTON
    ITS CRUCIAL
    NOBLE CRUSADER


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