Bike pump help

cojomo2

Hi,

Just a quick question.

Just bought a cheap mini pump for emergencies ..to say it's crap is an understatement ..if I connect it directly to the valve, it won't work unless I press it so firmly that it gets stuck to the valve and causes damage...even then, it barely works.

Are most mini pumps designed to connect directly to the tube valve, or can you attach a hose to the pump?

I am trying g to order a pump now, I'm steering clear of the mini variety as a standard pump should just about fit on my frame.

I don't want one that connects directly to the tube valve, instead I want one that I can attach the little hose to, and then on to the tube valve.

How do I make sure I get the correct one? From what I can see , many look like they attach directly to the tube valve, such as this one:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=34066

What I want is a pump with a little threaded hole at the bottom to attach a hose, would this be what I'm after :
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=45872


Thanks

ednwireland

i have
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29719

i can get 80 psi reasonably easily (with the medium) or a 100 with a fair bit of effort

the only prob ive found is on vittoria valves as they have a brass stem and steel valev so the brass heats up more and expand and when you unscrew it brings the vlve out (i now only have continental inner tubes)

big track pump at home anyway so the mini pump only for on road incidents

Lemag

cojomo2 wrote: »

I am trying g to order a pump now, I'm steering clear of the mini variety as a standard pump should just about fit on my frame.

I don't really get you.

I have this http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11317 and if works really well. The non carbon version http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11316 is cheaper and probably does the same job.

tomasrojo

cojomo2, is it possible that you have the wrong insert facing out of the air outlet on the mini pump?

You can usually unscrew the face off the air outlet and take out the insert and turn it around. One side has an 'x' and that's for car-style valves; the other side doesn't have an 'x' and that's for road bike-style valves.

cojomo2

tomasrojo wrote: »

cojomo2, is it possible that you have the wrong insert facing out of the air outlet on the mini pump?

You can usually unscrew the face off the air outlet and take out the insert and turn it around. One side has an 'x' and that's for car-style valves; the other side doesn't have an 'x' and that's for road bike-style valves.

Hi
I get what you mean but this pump has 2 holes at the top,one for each valve type .

Can you, or anyone , let me know if either of the pumps in my op have a threaded hole so I can screw in one of those little tubes/hoses that then connect to the tube valve ?

Thanks

Edit: just to be extra clear, I want to know if either of the pumps I linked to in my opening post will directly attach to one of these (see link )
http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21x74uozhpL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pump-Hose-Presta-Valve-ideal/dp/B002W7NF1A&usg=__H7yRYwOME1bIicowmKF1SOU6Plo=&h=300&w=300&sz=6&hl=en&start=12&zoom=1&tbnid=3mtD98Se_T6lPM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhose%2Band%2Bbike%2Bpump%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D800%26bih%3D1181%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C273&itbs=1&biw=800&bih=1333

tomasrojo

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=45872

That one will take a hose connector (you can see one in the recess of the top).

If you're near a bike shop, just drop in and buy one (doesn't have to be that brand; I think most shops carry Zefal old-style pumps). I don't think it'll be much cheaper online.

Just go in and ask for an old-style pump that takes a hose connector.

Hose connector may not be le mot juste, but they should get what you're after. Make sure you have the right connector too!

tomasrojo

By the way, I'm not sure whether you're planning to leave your pump on the bike when it's parked, but probably best not to. Easily stolen, and the sort of thing that people steal just for devilment.

cojomo2

tomasrojo wrote: »

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=45872

That one will take a hose connector (you can see one in the recess of the top).

If you're near a bike shop, just drop in and buy one (doesn't have to be that brand; I think most shops carry Zefal old-style pumps). I don't think it'll be much cheaper online.

Just go in and ask for an old-style pump that takes a hose connector.

Hose connector may not be le mot juste, but they should get what you're after. Make sure you have the right connector too!

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

I understand that you can get different types of hose connectors(presta and shrader), so why is there 2 varieties of this pump to pick from(presta or shrader).? Should the 1 pump not accept both types of hose connectors, since the end of the hose connector that connects to the pump will be identical in both presta and shrader hose connectors?

Thanks

petethedrummer

Very simple question. Are you using the pump lock as described in this post?

Civilian_Target

Does your frame has a little metal cone sticking out just underneath the crossbar, on the front tube where handlebars connect?

If you have it, it's for attaching a frame pump to, and you should use it. They're much better than those micropumps. Personally I have this one http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=14133 and no complaints thus-far

tomasrojo

cojomo2 wrote: »

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

I understand that you can get different types of hose connectors(presta and shrader), so why is there 2 varieties of this pump to pick from(presta or shrader).? Should the 1 pump not accept both types of hose connectors, since the end of the hose connector that connects to the pump will be identical in both presta and shrader hose connectors?

Thanks

You're referring to the link that shows two options: buying a schraeder pump or a presta pump? I imagine the pump itself is identical in both cases, but in one case the connector provided is for a schraeder valve and in the other case for a presta valve.

blorg

Civilian_Target wrote: »

Does your frame has a little metal cone sticking out just underneath the crossbar, on the front tube where handlebars connect?

If you have it, it's for attaching a frame pump to, and you should use it. They're much better than those micropumps. Personally I have this one http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=14133 and no complaints thus-far

Although they are handy you don't need pump pins on your frame; most modern frame pumps (including that Blackburn I think) are designed to attach to any frame without them. I bought a Zefal HPX for my touring bike and I certainly don't regret it. Infinitely better than a mini-pump (although I was happy with my Topeak Pocket Rocket for emergencies.) I do need a velcro strap on one end to keep it in place.

cojomo2

petethedrummer wrote: »

Very simple question. Are you using the pump lock as described in this post?

yep.

this is the pump i got:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=58636

useless. the pump really has to be forced hard in order for the valve to go in, even still didn't work, then it wouldn't come off, only by force, which damaged the valve..

I'd just like to add, CRC are great, they had no issue crediting me for the pump, without having to send it back.

blorg

SKS mini pumps are notoriously bad; I think with that pump you got what you paid for. I had a more expensive SKS which was usable (until it broke) but the Topeak Master Blaster that replaced it was far far better. It is a pain (as is ANY mini pump) but you _can_ actually inflate a tyre with it in an emergency. And it is small and light (100g) enough to fit into a jersey pocket. A frame pump is certainly better but obviously is bigger and heavier... If you have a track pump at home (and note a frame pump is no replacement for a track pump) a good mini is fine for day spins.