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LaPierre All Elements Iron v Giant CitySpeed?

  • 11-11-2010 1:12pm
    #1
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭


    Gonna go for one of these two any opinions? Which has the better components (looks very close to me?) Very similar bikes, main differences are:

    Suntour fork v Giant composite fork
    Shimano Alfine Disc brakes v Giant Root 2 Disc brakes
    Shimano Alfine rims v Giant CR70 rims
    Shimano Alfine crankset v FSA 306 crankset

    LaPierre Iron
    Giant City Speed


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  • #2
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Not sure which is best, but thats the first time I've seen a bike with an alfine hub AND a rear derailleur...


  • #3
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    droidus wrote: »
    Not sure which is best, but thats the first time I've seen a bike with an alfine hub AND a rear derailleur...

    The tensioner doesn't do much for the aesthetics ... but I can get over that :)


  • #4
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Why on earth does it need a tensioner? I just assumed the picture was wrong.

    Some hub gear threads here:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055800297&highlight=ALFINE
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055860097&highlight=alfine&page=2


  • #5
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,143 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    droidus wrote: »
    Why on earth does it need a tensioner?

    From what I recall you need one of: horizontal dropouts, eccentric BB, chain tensioner.

    The frame does not have horizontal dropouts. Presumably a chain tensioner is cheaper/less complicated than an eccentric BB.

    Doesn't appeal frankly, seems a bit half-arsed.


  • #6
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    I'm leaning towards the Giant, but just wondering if I'm missing a trick i.e. are the Alfine hubs/rims/crank/brakes significantly better than the Giant equivalents or is it much of a muchness?


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  • #7
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Maybe you should look at more Alfine/hubbed options?

    Merida 18d
    IMG_6383.JPG

    Kona DR Fine
    dr_fine.jpg

    Cotic Roadrat:
    alfine.jpg

    Bryant Belt Alfine:
    BK5218-02-459x328.jpg

    Brodie Ocho
    Ocho.jpg

    On-One Pompetamine
    photo-002.jpg

    Trek Soho:
    trek_soho_07_m.jpg

    Cannondale Bad Boy 8
    cannondale-bad-boy-8-2008-hybrid-bike.jpg?1227107316


  • #8
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,143 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    What's Alfine hub shifting quality like compared to a high-end STI setup?

    The only hub shifters I've used have been on DublinBikes or a Pashley, and they were both a bit clunky - no shifting under load, for instance.

    I could live with grip shifters on the tops (or drops), but clunky shifting is really annoying.


  • #9
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Never used high end shifters (sob) so i wouldn't know.

    My alfine seems pretty good though. Shifts quickly under load and while stopped. I have noticed a bit of clunkiness when I shift up to the natural gear (4), and its slipped once or twice in the last 3 months... need to get that checked out.


  • #10
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Seems to be a few bar end shifter options now too:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiawathacyclery/2348490318/in/set-72157604007257815/

    A drop barred alfine/rohloff sounds like the perfect tourer....


  • #11
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,143 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Dynamic Synergy

    $800. Hmmm....


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  • #12
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Nice


  • #13
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,143 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    On-One Pompetamine Versa

    €988,79


  • #14
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    Some nice bikes there, unfortunately I'm limited to whatever cyclesuperstore stock though :(


  • #15
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Whats the bike for? If commuting you might want to check which ones take mudguards. Or if you need suspension at all . Not for commuting anyway. I know discs are better but I think it v brakes look much better on a hub geared bike. Much cleaner lines. Of those two bikes in the OP I prefer the look of the Giant.


  • #16
    dubber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭dubber


    Went for the Giant ... whatever about the specs, cool looking bike in person :cool:


  • #17
    droidus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Well let us know how you get on. Looks the part anyway.


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