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Rte and freesat

pmct · 2010-11-16 10:13:50

I would like to get rid of sky and get a freesat box that acts like sky+ but what I want info on is it possible to get a box that I can record the Irish channels as well as the freesat ones

16-11-2010 11:13am

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I would like to get rid of sky and get a freesat box that acts like sky+ but what I want info on is it possible to get a box that I can record the Irish channels as well as the freesat ones

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#2 16-11-2010 11:24am

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DTT/SAT Combo boxes can do this but the 7 day EPG for freesat isn't availible .

See this thread for combo boxes. http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056086354

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#3 16-11-2010 5:40pm

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I know there's no combo box that does the 7day epg but thinking about it wouldn't the freesat tvs listed here http://www.freesat.co.uk/products/hd-tv-range also have a dvb-t tuner and therefore do a 7day epg for RTE and Freesat ?

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#4 16-11-2010 6:04pm

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Can the EPG be combined for DVB-T and DVB-S on these sets?

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#5 16-11-2010 6:24pm

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Certainly there are sets that combine.

Also on sets or Setbox with MHEG5, the Interactive (when RTE ever launch one) will work on both as it depends which channel you are on as to which MHEG application is launched.

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#6 16-11-2010 6:37pm

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rlogue wrote: »

Can the EPG be combined for DVB-T and DVB-S on these sets?

No, on the official Freesat TVs, you get two separate 7-day EPGs AFAIK.

Freesat EPG uses Huffman coding/compression/MHEG-5 whereas Freeview uses DVB-SI.

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#7 17-11-2010 11:44am

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Apogee wrote: »

No, on the official Freesat TVs, you get two separate 7-day EPGs AFAIK.

Freesat EPG uses Huffman coding/compression/MHEG-5 whereas Freeview uses DVB-SI.

Still though, not a bad solution I think. No box and 7 day guide for all channels (even if they are separate) I wonder if you can get some sort of pvr to attach to these tvs then?

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#8 17-11-2010 12:12pm

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Apogee wrote: »

No, on the official Freesat TVs, you get two separate 7-day EPGs AFAIK.

Freesat EPG uses Huffman coding/compression/MHEG-5 whereas Freeview uses DVB-SI.

Correct, it will never be possible to have a combined Saorview/freesat epg, a combined Saorview/freeview epg works as has been posted by Black Briar, to mention just one.

Even if Saorview does launch an MHEG-5 epg it will not be possible to combine both (separate appplications). Didn't see any mention of an MHEG-5 epg in the recent Saorview content consultation only Digital Teletext.

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#9 17-11-2010 1:07pm

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The Cush wrote: »

Correct, it will never be possible to have a combined Saorview/freesat epg, a combined Saorview/freeview epg works as has been posted by Black Briar, to mention just one.

Even if Saorview does launch an MHEG-5 epg it will not be possible to combine both (separate appplications). Didn't see any mention of an MHEG-5 epg in the recent Saorview content consultation only Digital Teletext.

Cush, can you have a combined Saorview/Free to air sat epg on a combo box ? I know free to air sat box would only have now and next, but that wouldn't matter.

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#10 17-11-2010 1:21pm

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galtee boy wrote: »

Cush, can you have a combined Saorview/Free to air sat epg on a combo box ? I know free to air sat box would only have now and next, but that wouldn't matter.

Yes, for the Linux based ones.

Receiver: Dreambox DM8000
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + optional DVB-T (x2) plugin
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €1000

Receiver: AzBox Premium Plus
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €449

Receiver: QBox HD
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T + optional plugin DVB-S2
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €449

Receiver: QBox HD Mini (NOT TESTED)
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €270

Receiver: Vu+ Duo
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + optional USB DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €499

Receiver: Technomate TM-7100HD
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €500

Receiver: Dreambox DM800
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + optional USB DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes???
Hardrive: External
Price: €399

Receiver: Optibox Alligator
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €199

Receiver: Edision Argus mini 2 in 1
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: No
Hardrive: External
Price: €169

Receiver: Edision Argus VIP2
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €199

Receiver: Technomate TM-6900HD Combo Super+
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €300

Receiver: Ferguson HD Ariva Combo Box
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €169

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#11 17-11-2010 3:43pm

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Apogee, forgive my ignorance, but can all the boxes listed below ( including the cheaper ones ), show a combined epg, eg:

1 RTE1
2 RTE2
3 TV3
4 TG4
5 RTE News Now
6 BBC1
7 BBC2

etc etc

and where does the 7day epg for satellite come from on some of the boxes, as I thought only Sky and Freesat, broadcast 7 day epg's on satellite ?

Apogee wrote: »

Yes, for the Linux based ones.

Receiver: Dreambox DM8000
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + optional DVB-T (x2) plugin
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €1000

Receiver: AzBox Premium Plus
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €449

Receiver: QBox HD
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T + optional plugin DVB-S2
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €449

Receiver: QBox HD Mini (NOT TESTED)
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €270

Receiver: Vu+ Duo
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + optional USB DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €499

Receiver: Technomate TM-7100HD
Tuners: 2x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: Internal
Price: €500

Receiver: Dreambox DM800
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + optional USB DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: Yes
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes???
Hardrive: External
Price: €399

Receiver: Optibox Alligator
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €199

Receiver: Edision Argus mini 2 in 1
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: No
Hardrive: External
Price: €169

Receiver: Edision Argus VIP2
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €199

Receiver: Technomate TM-6900HD Combo Super+
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €300

Receiver: Ferguson HD Ariva Combo Box
Tuners: 1x DVB-S2 + 1x DVB-T
7-day EPG for satellite: No
Record from satellite while watching terrestrial: Yes
Hardrive: External
Price: €169

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#12 17-11-2010 10:58pm

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galtee boy wrote: »

Apogee, forgive my ignorance, but can all the boxes listed below ( including the cheaper ones ), show a combined epg, eg:

They should all be able to do a combined EPG of 7-day DTT and 'Now and Next' satellite.

The Linux based ones can read the Freesat/Sky 7-day EPG datastreams and integrate them with the 7-day DTT EPG.

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#13 18-11-2010 11:06am

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Apogee wrote: »

They should all be able to do a combined EPG of 7-day DTT and 'Now and Next' satellite.

The Linux based ones can read the Freesat/Sky 7-day EPG datastreams and integrate them with the 7-day DTT EPG.

Thanks. More tempting to get one, knowing that. However, I suppose a full check of the spec before purchasing is advised anyway.

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#14 18-11-2010 12:03pm

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galtee boy wrote: »

Thanks. More tempting to get one, knowing that. However, I suppose a full check of the spec before purchasing is advised anyway.

I got the humax foxsat hdr 320gig .Great piece of kit ,as good or even better than the sky+ box IMHO. Money well spent .

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