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Cookiemunster wrote: »

Traffic in Plassey is going to get even more fun.

Edwards Lifesciences is to invest €80 million in a 600-job facility at the National Technological Park.

https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/600-new-jobs-edwards-lifesciences-huge-endorsement-limerick-major-fdi

We will eventually need helicopters to get to work in Plassey

source

Looks like major work going on in Tom & Gerry's and in The Brazen Head. Also looks like a hair dressers has opened in the tiny unit beside the post office on Cecil St.

zulutango

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Traffic in Plassey is going to get even more fun.

Edwards Lifesciences is to invest €80 million in a 600-job facility at the National Technological Park.

https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/600-new-jobs-edwards-lifesciences-huge-endorsement-limerick-major-fdi

Super news about the jobs. If we don't want even greater traffic congestion in Castletroy we need to construct excellent bus and bike infrastructure as soon as possible. Nothing else will work.

This tweet illustrates the point - https://twitter.com/BrianPMorrissey/status/1047815285552680960

Insect Overlord

source wrote: »

Looks like major work going on in Tom & Gerry's and in The Brazen Head. Also looks like a hair dressers has opened in the tiny unit beside the post office on Cecil St.

There's a 101 O'Connell Street sign after going in next to the Brazen Head. You'd have to expect that they'll take over it with the rest of that block?

Mc Love

Insect Overlord wrote: »

There's a 101 O'Connell Street sign after going in next to the Brazen Head. You'd have to expect that they'll take over it with the rest of that block?

Maybe night club?

dominatinMC

zulutango wrote: »

Super news about the jobs. If we don't want even greater traffic congestion in Castletroy we need to construct excellent bus and bike infrastructure as soon as possible. Nothing else will work.

Agree completely. And I think that Castletroy is perhaps the most suitable part of Limerick for the deployment of proper bike infrastructure. A lot of the roads are wide enough, and are in sufficient condition, to accommodate bike lanes (if they don't already have them). Allied to this, there is a fairly high probability that many Castletroy residents work in the area too (I know quite a few, so I'm generalising based on my own experience, but it's not unrealistic to assume so given the amount of companies & UL in the area). Such residents should be encouraged/incentivised into cycling schemes; I guess if the traffic gets so bad, they won't have much choice :pac: Finally, there is a sizable student population who drive to UL each day, these students should be targeted and encouraged into cycling if living in the area. I know UL are making strides with their cycling campaigns, but I believe more could be done here (anyone who has witnessed the traffic leaving the campus these evenings will attest to that!)

Reputable Rog

Swap coffee shops for smarter travel it would seem.

jaxxx

When I first heard of the 600 Edwards jobs in Castletroy, my very first thought was how the traffic was gonna escalate. I used to work in the technology park. Depending on what times you'd finish, it could take ages to get out of it. I remember some times it took me more than 45 minutes just to get from Cook Medical to the roundabout on the main road. As great as these jobs are, traffic's only gonna get a lot worse. Something will have to be done.

Vanquished

Some sort of deli/food outlet is being kitted out beside Starbucks on Thomas Street. I think it might be Chopped.

Mc Love

jaxxx wrote: »

When I first heard of the 600 Edwards jobs in Castletroy, my very first thought was how the traffic was gonna escalate. I used to work in the technology park. Depending on what times you'd finish, it could take ages to get out of it. I remember some times it took me more than 45 minutes just to get from Cook Medical to the roundabout on the main road. As great as these jobs are, traffic's only gonna get a lot worse. Something will have to be done.

More people taking up cycling, few people i know out that way are considering it

Berty

Vanquished wrote: »

Some sort of deli/food outlet is being kitted out beside Starbucks on Thomas Street. I think it might be Chopped.

Mace, mentioned a few pages back.

Vanquished

Berty wrote: »

Mace, mentioned a few pages back.

That's facing on to Catherine Street beside the entrance to Uber.

damowill

Vanquished wrote: »

That's facing on to Catherine Street beside the entrance to Uber.

Ya i heard Chopped AND Mace were going into the Units there.

damowill

Mc Love wrote: »

More people taking up cycling, few people i know out that way are considering it

meaning 'a' few people are or nobody is considering it?

i know of loads of people living in Castletroy / Annacotty and working in Castletroy / Plassey that drive to work. They 'could' easily walk or cycle, and either would probably be quicker when traffic is heavy. I'm not sure why they dont choose to leave their car at home. Is it due to the weather, poor cycle infrastructure, laziness or just convenience of having a car or all of the above!!

Cetyl Palmitate

damowill wrote: »

meaning 'a' few people are or nobody is considering it?

i know of loads of people living in Castletroy / Annacotty and working in Castletroy / Plassey that drive to work. They 'could' easily walk or cycle, and either would probably be quicker when traffic is heavy. I'm not sure why they dont choose to leave their car at home. Is it due to the weather, poor cycle infrastructure, laziness or just convenience of having a car or all of the above!!

If you live in any surrounding areas like Castleford, raheen, caherdavin, corbally and commute around normal office hours cycling is by far the quickest and most consistently reliable way to travel.

Bad weather is rarely an issue over a full year.

Infrastructure can be patchy but is improving slowly.

Lots of people accept waiting in traffic as the price to pay use their car. Personally I prefer to get to my destination as efficiently as I can. Sometimes that means cycling, sometimes driving, sometimes taking a bus.

cycling/walking/running/bus at least 1 day a week should be the starting goal for anyone living within 10km of work.

Even that could alleviate traffic enough to encourage people back into their cars!

Cookiemunster

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

If you live in any surrounding areas like Castleford, raheen, caherdavin, corbally and commute around normal office hours cycling is by far the quickest and most consistently reliable way to travel.

Bad weather is rarely an issue over a full year.

Infrastructure can be patchy but is improving slowly.

Lots of people accept waiting in traffic as the price to pay use their car. Personally I prefer to get to my destination as efficiently as I can. Sometimes that means cycling, sometimes driving, sometimes taking a bus.

cycling/walking/running/bus at least 1 day a week should be the starting goal for anyone living within 10km of work.

Even that could alleviate traffic enough to encourage people back into their cars!

You want people to walk or run 10K to work? If you'd said 2-3k, then fair enough, but 10K? That's just ridiculous.

Even for cycling that's a crazy distance. I know a (fit) lad who tried cycling 10k each way for work for about 2 months. Between the lack of cycling facilities, the fact that it rained constantly for the 2 months and being constantly shattered, he quickly decided to purchase a car.

damowill

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

If you live in any surrounding areas like Castleford, raheen, caherdavin, corbally and commute around normal office hours cycling is by far the quickest and most consistently reliable way to travel.

Bad weather is rarely an issue over a full year.

Infrastructure can be patchy but is improving slowly.

Lots of people accept waiting in traffic as the price to pay use their car. Personally I prefer to get to my destination as efficiently as I can. Sometimes that means cycling, sometimes driving, sometimes taking a bus.

cycling/walking/running/bus at least 1 day a week should be the starting goal for anyone living within 10km of work.

Even that could alleviate traffic enough to encourage people back into their cars!

The bike to work scheme is an incentive but i think more should be done to encourage people to cycle, walk or leave the cars at home.

Road tax is one. Currently we have a motor tax based on engine size / fuel type, which is environmental based. Perhaps (btw i havent given this one much thought) we should have a road tax based on usage. Tax those that use the car more. I am a car owner and think i would cycle and walk, or use the bus if there was a penalty for using the car (when other options are available). Plenty others would do the same.

Cookiemunster

damowill wrote: »

The bike to work scheme is an incentive but i think more should be done to encourage people to cycle, walk or leave the cars at home.

Road tax is one. Currently we have a motor tax based on engine size / fuel type, which is environmental based. Perhaps (btw i havent given this one much thought) we should have a road tax based on usage. Tax those that use the car more. I am a car owner and think i would cycle and walk, or use the bus if there was a penalty for using the car (when other options are available). Plenty others would do the same.

Going waaayyy off topic here but, really what should be done it to abolish motor tax altogether and increase the price of petrol/diesel to pay for the loss of revenue. That way the more you drive the more you pay.

keane2097

damowill wrote: »

The bike to work scheme is an incentive but i think more should be done to encourage people to cycle, walk or leave the cars at home.

Road tax is one. Currently we have a motor tax based on engine size / fuel type, which is environmental based. Perhaps (btw i havent given this one much thought) we should have a road tax based on usage. Tax those that use the car more. I am a car owner and think i would cycle and walk, or use the bus if there was a penalty for using the car (when other options are available). Plenty others would do the same.

You are taxed per usage through petrol and diesel. Petrol is 58c before tax currently, 145c at the pump.

BoardAtWork

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Going waaayyy off topic here but, really what should be done it to abolish motor tax altogether and increase the price of petrol/diesel to pay for the loss of revenue. That way the more you drive the more you pay.

Not sure I agree, but that might have the added benefit of further encouraging electric car usage.

Cetyl Palmitate

Cookiemunster wrote: »

You want people to walk or run 10K to work? If you'd said 2-3k, then fair enough, but 10K? That's just ridiculous.

Even for cycling that's a crazy distance. I know a (fit) lad who tried cycling 10k each way for work for about 2 months. Between the lack of cycling facilities, the fact that it rained constantly for the 2 months and being constantly shattered, he quickly decided to purchase a car.

4 options suggested. Whatever you think you are capable of yourself can apply.

Also no need to begin doing it every day of the week. Start off 1 or 2 days a week.

It's far from ridiculous.

Cookiemunster

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

4 options suggested. Whatever you think you are capable of yourself can apply.

Also no need to begin doing it every day of the week. Start off 1 or 2 days a week.

It's far from ridiculous.

At the average walking pace it would take 2 hours to walk 10km. And you have to do that twice. Sorry, but I think I'd take the car in those situations. And a 10k run is something you do for training purposes, not getting to work and doing it again on the way home. Even if it is only one day a week.

Walking if your below 3km from work, or cycling if you're 5-6km is fine, but 10km is unrealistic.

carbonceiling

Cookiemunster wrote: »

At the average walking pace it would take 2 hours to walk 10km. .

on a bike, at a very achievable speed of 20kmph it would take 30 mins. I don't think that's so bad

Cetyl Palmitate

Cookiemunster wrote: »

At the average walking pace it would take 2 hours to walk 10km. And you have to do that twice. Sorry, but I think I'd take the car in those situations. And a 10k run is something you do for training purposes, not getting to work and doing it again on the way home. Even if it is only one day a week.

Walking if your below 3km from work, or cycling if you're 5-6km is fine, but 10km is unrealistic.

Within 10k.

For those at the outer edges of that circumference maybe bus/cycle would be reasonable.
For those closer walk/run could become an option.

Or you can take the car, accept you are a contributing factor to any traffic you encounter, and move on.

Cookiemunster

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

Within 10k.

For those at the outer edges of that circumference maybe bus/cycle would be reasonable.
For those closer walk/run could become an option.

Or you can take the car, accept you are a contributing factor to any traffic you encounter, and move on.

So you do accept then that walking 10k to and from work taking 2 hours each was is not feasible. Especially if the the edge of that 10k is out somewhere like Castleconnell or Newport. And I'd add running to that too. You might get a bus to work and run home, but your not going to do it both ways.

Cetyl Palmitate

Cookiemunster wrote: »

So you do accept then that walking 10k to and from work taking 2 hours each was is not feasible. Especially if the the edge of that 10k is out somewhere like Castleconnell or Newport. And I'd add running to that too. You might get a bus to work and run home, but your not going to do it both ways.

I accept that within a 10k radius walk/run/cycle/bus or a combination of those are an option for many who exclusively drive at the moment.
I submit that a change in behaviour of some of those people would be a benefit to the many and also to themselves in some cases.

Cookiemunster

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

I accept that within a 10k radius walk/run/cycle/bus or a combination of those are an option for many who exclusively drive at the moment.
I submit that a change in behaviour of some of those people would be a benefit to the many and also to themselves in some cases.

I agree with your general point, but the distances you are talking about are unrealistic for anyone walking.

Reputable Rog

Seriously a smarter travel thread is the place for all this talk.

Cetyl Palmitate

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Seriously a smarter travel thread is the place for all this talk.

Maybe there is an opportunity for a smarter travel consultancy business opening in the area!

lazyman

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Traffic in Plassey is going to get even more fun.

Edwards Lifesciences is to invest €80 million in a 600-job facility at the National Technological Park.

https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/600-new-jobs-edwards-lifesciences-huge-endorsement-limerick-major-fdi

How big is the National Technological Park, is this a new build or a refit of an existing empty building?