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    #7412
    Berty
    Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    shanmo wrote: »
    Sheep Street - at the bottom of the Abbey River Court Apartments.
    I shouldn't imagine parking to be a problem as the Barrington car park is behind it.

    You'd be amazed. I was in the Strand Gym and you get free parking in the underground yet they'd still park on the footpaths outside.


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    #7413
    OfTheMarsWongs
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭OfTheMarsWongs


    shanmo wrote: »
    Sheep Street - at the bottom of the Abbey River Court Apartments.
    I shouldn't imagine parking to be a problem as the Barrington car park is behind it.

    Sheep Street is between the apartments and car park. It’s an old street. Seamus O’Cinneide Steet was only named when they put the road through the Abbey 20(?) years ago.


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    #7414
    OfTheMarsWongs
    Registered Users Posts: 925 ✭✭✭OfTheMarsWongs


    phog wrote: »
    I think those ground floor units were never occupied sine that building was constructed.

    I hope the users of the new gym are more considerate about where they park than their counterparts over at the Strand Gym.

    Nope. Never remember anything in there. Think the gym is knocking a couple of shops into a bigger space.


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    #7415
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Berty wrote: »
    You'd be amazed. I was in the Strand Gym and you get free parking in the underground yet they'd still park on the footpaths outside.

    Wouldn’t want to be walking too far to the gym like.


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    #7416
    Berty
    Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Wouldn’t want to be walking too far to the gym like.

    It was odd because the lift only went down/up one floor and you'd see people with their gym gear waiting for the lift instead of the stairs.


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    #7417
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    phog wrote: »
    I hope the users of the new gym are more considerate about where they park than their counterparts over at the Strand Gym.

    If the Council or Gardai sent their wardens / traffic corps up there any evening of the week, or Sunday afternoon, they'd make a fair whack in fines.


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    #7418
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Statement from Mayor re Development of a Marks and Spencer in Limerick

    Mayor James Collins added: “It’s clear this would only be permissible in the city centre as per the retail planning and development guidelines.”
    “There has been no formal application at this stage but we look forward to engaging with either a developer or M&S at the first opportunity.

    https://www.limerick.ie/council/newsroom/news/statement-mayor-re-development-marks-and-spencer-limerick


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    #7419
    Berty
    Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    City Centre? They won't want to set up there unless the demographic suits them. I like M&S food and homewares but wouldn't bother having to park in the city centre to visit it. Put it in Castletroy S/C who already applied for an expansion.

    I can't imagine this suits the agenda of the council who really wants M&S but won't allow them unless it's under the own terms. Delusional


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    #7420
    pigtown
    Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭pigtown


    Berty wrote: »
    City Centre? They won't want to set up there unless the demographic suits them. I like M&S food and homewares but wouldn't bother having to park in the city centre to visit it. Put it in Castletroy S/C who already applied for an expansion.

    I can't imagine this suits the agenda of the council who really wants M&S but won't allow them unless it's under the own terms. Delusional

    Delusional in what sense?


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    #7421
    Poxyshamrock
    Registered Users Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Berty wrote: »
    City Centre? They won't want to set up there unless the demographic suits them. I like M&S food and homewares but wouldn't bother having to park in the city centre to visit it. Put it in Castletroy S/C who already applied for an expansion.

    I can't imagine this suits the agenda of the council who really wants M&S but won't allow them unless it's under the own terms. Delusional

    Applied and were refused.


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    #7422
    Vanquished
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Berty wrote: »
    City Centre? They won't want to set up there unless the demographic suits them. I like M&S food and homewares but wouldn't bother having to park in the city centre to visit it. Put it in Castletroy S/C who already applied for an expansion.

    It's awful isn't it?! Imagine expecting people to go to the bother of finding a space to park in Limerick city centre. It's not like Limerick is the most car friendly city in Ireland or anything!:rolleyes:


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    #7423
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Vanquished wrote: »
    It's awful isn't it?! Imagine expecting people to go to the bother of finding a space to park in Limerick city centre. It's not like Limerick is the most car friendly city in Ireland or anything!:rolleyes:

    It doesn't have to be car friendly.


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    #7424
    Vanquished
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Mc Love wrote: »
    It doesn't have to be car friendly.

    I think you might have missed the sarcasm there. :p


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    #7425
    Treepole
    Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭Treepole


    Vanquished wrote: »
    It's awful isn't it?! Imagine expecting people to go to the bother of finding a space to park in Limerick city centre. It's not like Limerick is the most car friendly city in Ireland or anything!:rolleyes:

    So un-car friendly that people need to park cars on the their side?


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    #7426
    Vanquished
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Treepole wrote: »
    So un-car friendly that people need to park cars on the their side?

    Nah. So accommodating that motorists are allowed to park up wherever they want whenever they want with more or less impunity.


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    #7427
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    Think something is going into Scott's outside Mary I.
    Just looking at it today and looks like maybe a barbers/hairdressers is going in there. It looks quite small so maybe it's being divided up into units?


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    #7428
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    James Bond Junior wrote: »
    Are you involved? If you are, fair play. The thoughts of damage done by straws, single use water bottles etc bothers me.

    Just made a purchase on their site.

    Just an update. Straws arrived today, zero discernable difference between them and regular plastic straws bar compostability. A lovely note included and a small cotton sleeve to hold the straws. Great service with a personal touch, I wish them the best of luck.


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    #7429
    lazyman
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭lazyman


    Front page of the weekend leader says Marks and Spencer are going into city centre and not the suburbs.
    Only briefly saw it online so didn't get to see the article....


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    #7430
    dave 27
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭dave 27


    lazyman wrote: »
    Front page of the weekend leader says Marks and Spencer are going into city centre and not the suburbs.
    Only briefly saw it online so didn't get to see the article....

    I saw savills are looking to utilise the Port in the city for future sites, maybe marks and sparks there?? :D can pull the deliveries straight off the ship and into the shops :pac:


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    #7431
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    lazyman wrote: »
    Front page of the weekend leader says Marks and Spencer are going into city centre and not the suburbs.
    Only briefly saw it online so didn't get to see the article....
    With this development, and the refusal to grant planning for an extension to the Castletroy shopping center, it looks like the council are making a concerted effort to revitalise the city centre


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    #7432
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    dominatinMC wrote: »
    With this development, and the refusal to grant planning for an extension to the Castletroy shopping center, it looks like the council are making a concerted effort to revitalise the city centre

    It does. There are very good people and strong voices driving that message home. There's plenty of resistance and ignorance in important positions too unfortunately.


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    #7433
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    dominatinMC wrote: »
    With this development, and the refusal to grant planning for an extension to the Castletroy shopping center, it looks like the council are making a concerted effort to revitalise the city centre

    The refusal to grant Castletroy Shopping center an extension is short sighted in the extreme - the population of the suburb is only going to keep growing and growing over the next few years as new businesses set up and new estates are built. They've had years and years to sort the city centre out, but obstructing the growth of a central shopping centre in a rapidly expanding suburb for the sake of it is ridiculous.


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    #7434
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The Specialist wrote: »
    The refusal to grant Castletroy Shopping center an extension is short sighted in the extreme - the population of the suburb is only going to keep growing and growing over the next few years as new businesses set up and new estates are built. They've had years and years to sort the city centre out, but obstructing the growth of a central shopping centre in a rapidly expanding suburb for the sake of it is ridiculous.

    They haven't had years and years. There's only been one voice since the councils were amalgamated in 2012 (in the middle of the recession). Before that the County Council were very happy to permit retail development just outside the city boundary, so that they could cash in on the population inside the city, without any regard to the effects it was having on the city center.

    Since the amalgamation, a new policy has been put in place not to permit major retail development outside the city center. This in recent years has led to the refusal of renewed plans for the Parkway Valley, a massive extension of the Crescent for M&S and now Castletroy SC.

    Retail and residential development should be focused on the city center, not expanding the already over stretched suburbs.


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    #7435
    geotrig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭geotrig


    Cookiemunster wrote: »

    Retail and residential development should be focused on the city center, not expanding the already over stretched suburbs.

    retail needs serious re-development in town , there is a need for bigger units in some areas and improving the flow /spread of the town to incorperate other areas.

    The only large retail space i can think of is the dunnes sarsfield st and well that is as we all know going nowhere ! outside of that who and where are people going to develop for retail ? opera centre isnt set For large retail either as far as i remember ?


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    #7436
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Cookiemunster wrote: »

    Retail and residential development should be focused on the city center, not expanding the already over stretched suburbs.

    That's completely illogical though. If people wanted to live and shop in the city center they would be doing so already. People tend to move close to where their jobs are and should be catered for in those suburbs if they wish - nothing the council will or can do is going to change the demographic of the city center if people don't want to be in there in the first place.


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    #7437
    Vanquished
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    The Specialist wrote: »
    That's completely illogical though. If people wanted to live and shop in the city center they would be doing so already. People tend to move close to where their jobs are and should be catered for in those suburbs if they wish - nothing the council will or can do is going to change the demographic of the city center if people don't want to be in there in the first place.

    That's not true at all though. I know loads of people who want to buy in or near the city centre but the options are extremely limited. Nothing has been built for 10 years. If we want a strong, vibrant Limerick then we need to rejuvenate and repopulate the city centre. Continuing the trend of building generic low density, car dependent estates further and further from the city centre creates far more problems than it solves. It's not an effective way to grow the city.


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    #7438
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The Specialist wrote: »
    That's completely illogical though. If people wanted to live and shop in the city center they would be doing so already. People tend to move close to where their jobs are and should be catered for in those suburbs if they wish - nothing the council will or can do is going to change the demographic of the city center if people don't want to be in there in the first place.


    There aren't enough places in the city center for people to live. If there were, then more people would live there. There are already plenty of jobs in the city center. Over 800 people work for the Revenue Commisioners in River House, Uber employ 400 on Catherine St and NAC are about to employ 300 people in the Gardens development. And that's just the tip of the iceberg when you consider the amount of other offices and retail that already exists there. Are you trying to say that none of these people would prefer to live closer to where they work in the city center?


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    #7439
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    There aren't enough places in the city center for people to live. If there were, then more people would live there. There are already plenty of jobs in the city center. Over 800 people work for the Revenue Commisioners in River House, Uber employ 400 on Catherine St and NAC are about to employ 300 people in the Gardens development. And that's just the tip of the iceberg when you consider the amount of other offices and retail that already exists there. Are you trying to say that none of these people would prefer to live closer to where they work in the city center?

    I'm sure they would but would you mind giving 1 or 2 examples of where you would build this new housing for these people in the city centre? Are you assuming they all want to live in apartments in high rises or actual houses (which is precisely what the suburbs are for)?


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    #7440
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The Specialist wrote: »
    I'm sure they would but would you mind giving 1 or 2 examples of where you would build this new housing for these people in the city centre? Are you assuming they all want to live in apartments in high rises or actual houses (which is precisely what the suburbs are for)?

    The docklands, the gasworks site on the Dock Rd and Cleeves to name three off the top of my head. I'm sure there are other potential sites. There are plenty of people, especially younger people, who would prefer to live in the city center rather than out in the suburbs. Just look at every other city outside of Ireland. Not everyone is wedded to the idea of front and back garden and a driveway.


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    #7441
    dave 27
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭dave 27


    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    The docklands, the gasworks site on the Dock Rd and Cleeves to name three off the top of my head. I'm sure there are other potential sites. There are plenty of people, especially younger people, who would prefer to live in the city center rather than out in the suburbs. Just look at every other city outside of Ireland. Not everyone is wedded to the idea of front and back garden and a driveway.

    Yeah i think when you look at the docklands quarter there is an abundance of space and old buildings crying out to be gentrified, that whole area could be a great space for relitively dense commercial and residential and maybe even student accommodation.

    If you look at how successfully the gardens site was bought up due to its space etc then that should be done in more areas in this area, im not sure if you can get good density easily as you go in to town but certainly any highrise out by the port could be fast tracked as its not in area of special interest?


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