Limerick Businesses Opening

James Bond Junior

shanmo wrote: »

Hope its something different than a Kebab shop or "Asian street food" place.

Fixed.

bigpink

Cherrycoke wrote: »

There's a new shop opening in the Market, beside the old donut shop. Big sign up, called 24/7.

Maybe some kind of convenience store?

Classy just what the market area needs a dodgy 24 hour shop that will be a illegal taxi rank too

bigpink

Hopefully CAB and Garda start clamping down on some taxis and kebab shops in Limerick in the near future

adaminho

shanmo wrote: »

Hope its something different.

It's a Malaysian Deli.

ongarboy

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302671.htm

Plans to expand Castletroy SC have now been rejected by An Bord Pleanala after the applicant appealed Limerick County Council's initial refusal.

dominatinMC

ongarboy wrote: »

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302671.htm

Plans to expand Castletroy SC have now been rejected by An Bord Pleanala after the applicant appealed Limerick County Council's initial refusal.

Good. The last thing Limerick needs is more sub-urban sprawl shopping centres. Although it is strange that the Crescent was granted permission for that extension last year..

damowill

ongarboy wrote: »

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302671.htm

Plans to expand Castletroy SC have now been rejected by An Bord Pleanala after the applicant appealed Limerick County Council's initial refusal.

Absolutely brilliant news....

mart 23

ongarboy wrote: »

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302671.htm

Plans to expand Castletroy SC have now been rejected by An Bord Pleanala after the applicant appealed Limerick County Council's initial refusal.

I think this is ridiculous. What plans are there for signifcant retail space in the City Centre. The Opera Centre has none afaik. Meanwhile we have the loss of potential new business and employment . The City Centre retail myth goes on .

Reputable Rog

mart 23 wrote: »

I think this is ridiculous. What plans are there for signifcant retail space in the City Centre. The Opera Centre has none afaik. Meanwhile we have the loss of potential new business and employment . The City Centre retail myth goes on .

Senator Maria Byrne, who had campaigned for the shopping centre’s expansion in conjunction with the enhancement of the city centre, said now is the time to focus on the latter.

“We have to concentrate now on getting people into the city centre. While people in Castletroy were looking for an offering out there, we need to get footfall into the urban area,” she told Leader Business.


Ms Byrne will be holding talks with the Limerick Chamber and management of Limerick City and County Council to achieve just this.

In its judgement, An Bord Pleanala ruled allowing the expansion would have a negative impact on Limerick city centre.

Under the plans, two new main anchor tenants would have been brought in, with 10 smaller outlets, four service units and a café.

The plans would have also included a two-storey car park with more that 600 spaces, plus 97 surface spaces.

The Board says it is not satisfied that the proposed development would not have an adverse impact on the vitality and viability of Limerick City Centre.

The mind boggles.

Eire-Dearg

There's still some empty units in the Castletroy Centre, why don't they focus on keeping those open before extending?

Regardless, aside from a few restaurant spots there's absolutely zero reason to visit the city these days and that's not going to change any time soon.

turbbo

Reputable Rog wrote: »

The mind boggles.

Hardly -
I don't see how retail will ever be brought back to the city centre when there is a severe lack of population there.
The reality is the suburbs are where the people live(families especially).
Retail will only really work when it's easily accessible especially when competing with online - delivery to your door, convenient and usually cheaper.
It's backwards thinking that the centre can be saved simply by retail - it needs way more than that.

turbbo

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

There's still some empty units in the Castletroy Centre, why don't they focus on keeping those open before extending?

Regardless, aside from a few restaurant spots there's absolutely zero reason to visit the city these days and that's not going to change any time soon.

Retail is all about critical mass - build it and they will come - some very small and outdated units in the existing building.

mdmix

turbbo wrote: »

Hardly -
I don't see how retail will ever be brought back to the city centre when there is a severe lack of population there.
The reality is the suburbs are where the people live(families especially).

agree with you on this. limerick city centre as a retail hub is simply not viable due to low population - and there are no plans to address this.

while I am against the expansion of the shopping centre due to the traffic chaos it would create, the most likely outcome now is that a large shopping centre will be built in south Clare (if the NDR gets built, which it may or may not)

turbbo

mdmix wrote: »

while I am against the expansion of the shopping centre due to the traffic chaos it would create, the most likely outcome now is that a large shopping centre will be built in south Clare (if the NDR gets built, which it may or may not)

yeah i agree with you too traffic there would be chaos it's not the right place for it either.

damowill

Far too many shopping centres were granted planning permission in suburbs outside of the city centre prior to the Councils current stance on such planning. More shopping centres will only intensify the donut affect which has already been detrimental to the city centre. The focus of Limerick 2030 (while flawed) is to increase footfall and the population in the city and reverse the bad planning that went on in the last 20 years. The Hanging Gardens, Opera Centre, the Living Georgian City programme, Bishops Quay, Cleeves project and the O' Connell st revitalisation should bring more people & jobs into the city, and thus footfall. When more people start working in the city, many of those will want to live there. We are lacking in good retail options, public space, entertainment offerings and of course housing, not to mention public transport links which are all needed for a vibrant city centre. These all need to be tackled but at least the first steps are being made for a city we all want, and ultimately this was the right decision

turbbo

damowill wrote: »

Far too many shopping centres were granted planning permission in suburbs outside of the city centre prior to the Councils current stance on such planning. More shopping centres will only intensify the donut affect which has already been detrimental to the city centre. The focus of Limerick 2030 (while flawed) is to increase footfall and the population in the city and reverse the bad planning that went on in the last 20 years. The Hanging Gardens, Opera Centre, the Living Georgian City programme, Bishops Quay, Cleeves project and the O' Connell st revitalisation should bring more people & jobs into the city, and thus footfall. When more people start working in the city, many of those will want to live there. We are lacking in good retail options, public space, entertainment offerings and of course housing, not to mention public transport links which are all needed for a vibrant city centre. These all need to be tackled but at least the first steps are being made for a city we all want, and ultimately this was the right decision

Closing the gate after the horse bolted! Online shopping has already killed the chance of any major retailer locating in the centre. It hasn't happened and it won't.
All this decision will do is stop local jobs.

Reputable Rog

turbbo wrote: »

Hardly -
I don't see how retail will ever be brought back to the city centre when there is a severe lack of population there.
The reality is the suburbs are where the people live(families especially).
Retail will only really work when it's easily accessible especially when competing with online - delivery to your door, convenient and usually cheaper.
It's backwards thinking that the centre can be saved simply by retail - it needs way more than that.

The mind boggles because Maria Byrne is now championing the City Centre, last week it was the suburbs.
Also the assertion by ABP is also curious in that they previously asserted that refusing Horizon Mall due to the potential impact on the City Centre was not reasonable.
This refusal does nothing for the City Centre.
Limerick needs more Signage stores.

James Bond Junior

Reputable Rog wrote: »

The mind boggles because Maria Byrne is now championing the City Centre, last week it was the suburbs.

Local election is coming up, she will say what people want to hear. That said I like Maria Byrne, she is a good skin.

pigtown

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Also the assertion by ABP is also curious in that they previously asserted that refusing Horizon Mall due to the potential impact on the City Centre was not reasonable.

The thing with An Bord Pleanala is they have to go by planning laws and rules and at the time, Horizon Mall was a bit of an anomaly in the laws. Wouldn't be allowed now though since the development plan changed

turbbo

pigtown wrote: »

The thing with An Bord Pleanala is they have to go by planning laws and rules and at the time, Horizon Mall was a bit of an anomaly in the laws. Wouldn't be allowed now though since the development plan changed

Wouldn't be so sure - if the brown envelope was fat enough.

jjoconoor

ongarboy wrote: »

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/302671.htm

Plans to expand Castletroy SC have now been rejected by An Bord Pleanala after the applicant appealed Limerick County Council's initial refusal.

There is shops opening and closing in that centre like no tomorrow! €1500 per week rent is simply not sustainable out there

I have no idea about commercial rents or anything like that. Out of curiosity, what would a small unit cost per week in the crescent? Like the unit where the newsagents is or the phone accessories place next to the post office for example.

turbbo

jjoconoor wrote: »

There is shops opening and closing in that centre like no tomorrow! €1500 per week rent is simply not sustainable out there

Mad money for what essentially is a shed with parking.

source

Tis open, and it's nice to see some life around in the evenings that's not fast food or pub.

fryup

mmmmmmm trendy

a far cry from Burgerland (kids ask your folks)

mrsoundie

fryup wrote: »

mmmmmmm trendy

a far cry from Burgerland (kids ask your folks)

I remember being on the piss with an owner of a prominent bar/night club and the Guards were called to take his own as he was asleep in Burgerland. They called the bouncers and they came and took him home.

Mc Love

Yeah its going to be a great place for the people watchers!

ongarboy

It's probably the best located of all the Limerick Starbucks alright and while it might not be everyone's cup of tea or even coffee (pun intended), it adds a vitality and atmosphere to a formerly dead street frontage and is open from 7am to 9/10pm 7 days a week. That will be appealing to many on a dark Monday or Tuesday evening when everywhere else is shut or deserted when they want to meet friends away from pubs or just seek solitary cosy shelter to read a book/use free WiFi etc. Starbucks is happy to facilitate customers lingering over a single cup of coffee unlike many other establishments.

Now when is Dunnes going to pull it's finger out over the proposed restaurants (which were granted permission) for their old O'Connell Street branch?? Now that they've finally done a deal with Sarsfield St, hopefully the momentum can keep going!

Paddico

Fú@k Starbucks ... greedy capitalists

Cookiemunster

Paddico wrote: »

Fú@k Starbucks ... greedy capitalists

Any private business that has the intention of making a profit is capitalist. So all those independent coffee shops? Yes they're run by capitalists too.