Limerick Businesses Opening

bigpink · 22-05-2019 11:56pm

It’s great for the street but let’s not it become all artisan etc
Keep some Limerick character don’t rip off the tourists

Birdie086 · 22-05-2019 11:56pm

It's a great boost to Nicholas street, I hope they make a success of it and others follow.

bigpink · 22-05-2019 11:59pm

I’m sure another brewery or distillery will open too big business these days

bigpink · 23-05-2019 12:01am

I’m sure another brewery or distillery will open too big business these days

CiaranMT · 23-05-2019 12:16am

What inane points you're trying to make bigpink. Who's pushing out who, exactly? The brewery pushing out nobody in particular from a previously disused building? Or is it the punters? Nicholas Street is dead the vast majority of the time (same could be said for swathes of the city), it needs a few focal points like this to draw footfall, to encourage other businesses to set up.

I work in the alcohol trade in Dublin and the majority of people who buy 'craft' beer are in fact middle aged. They're not hipsters, just regular people (taxi drivers, accountants, teachers, bus drivers, bar managers, office workers would describe some of my best customers) who've worked for a while and accumulated a bit of cash to spend on something other than cans of industrial lager or Guinness that's far removed from what it used to be. Limerick in particular has been the slowest of the major cities for craft beer penetration. You have 99% of the bars offering the regular fare if that's what you're interested in, give a chance to the lads trying to bring something a little different to the city. God forbid anyone in Limerick do anything 'different'.

23-05-2019 12:35am

bigpink wrote: »

Not a dig just an opinion do we want to push out local people?
It’s more in jest I said hipster you know the stereotypes
Good solid local business maybe even an independent street no chains

It was a dig. Sugar coat it all you want

bigpink · 23-05-2019 1:03am

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

It was a dig. Sugar coat it all you want

Nobody wants it to become an overpriced area either

Phileas Frog · 23-05-2019 3:48am

bigpink wrote: »

There is a snobbery to craft beer you not find?

No

RocketRaccoon · 23-05-2019 7:03am

bigpink wrote: »

Not a dig just an opinion do we want to push out local people?
It’s more in jest I said hipster you know the stereotypes
Good solid local business maybe even an independent street no chains

So basically pubs offering up ****e pints of Heineken, Bud and Guinness are OK but these lads aren't?

bigpink · 23-05-2019 7:19am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So basically pubs offering up ****e pints of Heineken, Bud and Guinness are OK but these lads aren't?

I’d love to see Nicolas street as a independent business street
Keep some local character which Limerick is known for
Don’t become like Temple bar or an overpriced trendy area

kilburn · 23-05-2019 7:31am

My understanding is it's on the site of a previous brewery and is "experiental"

Should help Treaceys and Stix with more footfall.

I always felt Nicholas street should be like the streets you find on the continent in old towns.

Shops that sell medieval themed items coats of armour, replica weapons (not to some locals) etc

King Johns should be filling that gap but dont

Berty · 23-05-2019 7:40am

Nicholas Street is seasonal also a lot of people would not set up a business there as the footfall is both low and of a lower demographic type that would have disposable income.

I don't even like walking through the area myself, brought the boss to Katie Daly's, over from the US, got from the car to the door and was tapped for cigarettes by somebody.

I did visit King John's when there was a concert on and the vibe there and by Katie Daly's was great but every other day the areas not appealing.

I wish the brewery the best, I will try and visit soon. They will likely also eventually also offer other types of beers because other craft bars, who make their own also, also because they don't want to appeal to 10% of a group of friends whilst alienating the rest of the group who then want to leave.

Mc Love · 23-05-2019 8:07am

bigpink wrote: »

There is a snobbery to craft beer you not find?

Not in the least bit, sure its priced at a higher margin but thats what you get when you get quality ingredients and not highly manufactured like Heineken or Tuborg and the like.

bigpink wrote: »

I’d love to see Nicolas street as a independent business street
Keep some local character which Limerick is known for
Don’t become like Temple bar or an overpriced trendy area

Treaty City brewing is an independent business street. God forbid if Starbucks open. It should be full of cafes & shops.

Berty wrote: »

Nicholas Street is seasonal also a lot of people would not set up a business there as the footfall is both low and of a lower demographic type that would have disposable income.

I don't even like walking through the area myself, brought the boss to Katie Daly's, over from the US, got from the car to the door and was tapped for cigarettes by somebody.

I did visit King John's when there was a concert on and the vibe there and by Katie Daly's was great but every other day the areas not appealing.

I wish the brewery the best, I will try and visit soon. They will likely also eventually also offer other types of beers because other craft bars, who make their own also, also because they don't want to appeal to 10% of a group of friends whilst alienating the rest of the group who then want to leave.

Sure the area's off Nicholas St arent the best on one side, but its not that bad and I'd have no problem walking through it and in fact many tourists seem to have no problem either. There is a rogue element of scrotes whether passing through or from the area that have caused damage to a friends car (twice) and have come from the Cauldron.

Hopefully the likes of the brewery will bring more footfall to the area that would entice shoppers.

bigpink · 23-05-2019 8:09am

kilburn wrote: »

My understanding is it's on the site of a previous brewery and is "experiental"

Should help Treaceys and Stix with more footfall.

I always felt Nicholas street should be like the streets you find on the continent in old towns.

Shops that sell medieval themed items coats of armour, replica weapons (not to some locals) etc

King Johns should be filling that gap but dont

I hope Stix doesn’t change

bigpink · 23-05-2019 8:12am

Mc Love wrote: »

Not in the least bit, sure its priced at a higher margin but thats what you get when you get quality ingredients and not highly manufactured like Heineken or Tuborg and the like.

Treaty City brewing is an independent business street. God forbid if Starbucks open. It should be full of cafes & shops.

Sure the area's off Nicholas St arent the best on one side, but its not that bad and I'd have no problem walking through it and in fact many tourists seem to have no problem either. There is a rogue element of scrotes whether passing through or from the area that have caused damage to a friends car (twice) and have come from the Cauldron.

Hopefully the likes of the brewery will bring more footfall to the area that would entice shoppers.

Twice?Where were they parked?Youngsters or adults

mdmix · 23-05-2019 8:59am

bigpink wrote: »

I’m sure another brewery or distillery will open too big business these days

Last year was the first year that more breweries closed than opened. This was the case in Ireland as well as the UK, and in Canada 2 years ago. The craft beer fad is over. There is no more space at the top, but regional breweries like treaty may well survive or even flourish serving their city/region.

As for distilleries. There are no micro distilleries in Ireland, the Victorian era laws prevent it. The gin market is oversatureted but there is still demand for Irish whiskey, which unfortunately takes a minimum of 4 years to make. Simply put, there is no limerick distillery and likely never will be.

It’s a shame there aren’t more craft options in limerick, county or city. So support your local brewer or there may be none altogether. Also, support the non drinks craft in limerick too.

keane2097 · 23-05-2019 9:05am

Treaty City Lager is class. An absolute boon for those of us who don't enjoy pale ales but don't want to drink the normal Carlsberg, Heineken or Bud piss water.

Mc Love · 23-05-2019 9:20am

bigpink wrote: »

Twice?Where were they parked?Youngsters or adults

St. Peter St. - the vandals were left out of the cauldron with bottles and damaged one of their vehicles.

mdmix wrote: »

As for distilleries. There are no micro distilleries in Ireland, the Victorian era laws prevent it. The gin market is oversatureted but there is still demand for Irish whiskey, which unfortunately takes a minimum of 4 years to make. Simply put, there is no limerick distillery and likely never will be.

Afaik there's one in Dingle (Dingle Distillery) and one in Dublin (Teeling) - both were using a Scotch whiskey until their own whiskey could be bottled.

realdanbreen · 23-05-2019 10:08am

I guess the city centre is no longer a place one goes to shop or 'get ' anything. It's really a place to stroll around and maybe have a latte and make use of the free WiFi.

Mc Love · 23-05-2019 10:09am

realdanbreen wrote: »

I guess the city centre is no longer a place one goes to shop or 'get ' anything. It's really a place to stroll around and maybe have a latte and make use of the free WiFi.

I'd say a good portion of the people in the Crescent are doing the same

mdmix · 23-05-2019 10:26am

Mc Love wrote: »

Afaik there's one in Dingle (Dingle Distillery) and one in Dublin (Teeling) - both were using a Scotch whiskey until their own whiskey could be bottled.

You are right about these, but they are not micro distilleries. There are a few others that opened over the last few years. The Irish laws are very complicated and we’re designed specifically to stop smaller distilleries from opening. Distilling at a small scale is illegal, as there are minimum pot still sizes that need to be adhered to, which means a higher upfront investment.

https://www.abfi.ie/Sectors/ABFI/ABFI.nsf/vPagesWhiskey/Members'_area~revenue-requirements-for-setting-up-a-distillery!OpenDocument

Distillers like dingle got in at the right time and we’re able to produce and sell gin while they waited for their whiskey to mature. Those days are gone as there is so much competition at every price point in the gin market. If a new distiller opened now, they would likely have to pay huge sums upfront and not be able to earn anything for 4 years. Diagio is the latest entrant to the whiskey market and will be opening a distillery near st James gate.