Worst administration you could ever get

andrewire

It is such a disappointment to study in a place with poor service and quality. I wish they would care more about students but they couldn't care less.

melekalikimaka

elaborate or getting deleted

andrewire

melekalikimaka wrote: »

elaborate or getting deleted

Well, it seems that for these people quantity is more important that quality; we have to write at least a dozen assignments in the space of 10 weeks, but those assignments don't make you learn much; it's all about word-count, repeating what you read in the books, etc. There's no insight, no depth, nothing valuable. Moreover, most lectures have between 12 and 15 topics, which are impossible to cover in just one semester of 12 weeks. Lecturers always miss classes and they have to re-schedule, which is also done poorly. Some assignments are 60 pages long and there's no correlation between module credit worthness and work load. Most times you have to work more for a half-credit module than a full-credit module. Is that logical?

Furthermore, complaining to the faculty is a waste of time since they don't care about what you think. They have all sorts of prefabricated answers whenever you say this or that has affected you. The administration is quite poor; it seems they don't know how to communicate with each other. Lecturers always blame the Faculty and vice versa.

thebostoncrab

Mind if I ask what you are studying? 60 page assignments are something I have never heard of from the college in my 4 years there.

melekalikimaka

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Mind if I ask what you are studying? 60 page assignments are something I have never heard of from the college in my 4 years there.

ours are between 60 - 100 pages

photography

melekalikimaka

any more waffle along the lines of the last three posts and you'll be getting banned, be constructive or don't post

morgans303

melekalikimaka wrote: »

any more waffle along the lines of the last three posts and you'll be getting banned, be constructive or don't post

I think it's important people know the experience of past students. I think my "waffling" could save some young people's lives getting ruined.

I think you'd agree, unless you're one of the guilty parties involved.

melekalikimaka

morgans303 wrote: »

I think it's important people know the experience of past students. I think my "waffling" could save some young people's lives getting ruined.

I think you'd agree, unless you're one of the guilty parties involved.

I would disagree, the accusations about people from other nationalities, whist could be true could be construed at racial slur or slander if details become more elaborate.

I have no issues with the thread staying open, just keep on topic about the subject, trailing off about pornos has nothing to do with the topic.

Also perhaps the wording, its a discussion forum, not a b1tch forum, you can get across your point without the excess attitude.

The college has been in contact with me over comments made here before so I apologise for being a bit prudy on this.

morgans303

melekalikimaka wrote: »

I would disagree, the accusations about people from other nationalities, whist could be true could be construed at racial slur or slander if details become more elaborate.

I have no issues with the thread staying open, just keep on topic about the subject, trailing off about pornos has nothing to do with the topic.

Also perhaps the wording, its a discussion forum, not a b1tch forum, you can get across your point without the excess attitude.

The college has been in contact with me over comments made here before so I apologise for being a bit prudy on this.

Alright, well, I simply wanted to state Griffith College is the worst €12000 I ever spent. Consumer watchdog~

landsleaving

andrewire wrote: »

Well, it seems that for these people quantity is more important that quality; we have to write at least a dozen assignments in the space of 10 weeks, but those assignments don't make you learn much; it's all about word-count, repeating what you read in the books, etc. There's no insight, no depth, nothing valuable. Moreover, most lectures have between 12 and 15 topics, which are impossible to cover in just one semester of 12 weeks. Lecturers always miss classes and they have to re-schedule, which is also done poorly. Some assignments are 60 pages long and there's no correlation between module credit worthness and work load. Most times you have to work more for a half-credit module than a full-credit module. Is that logical?

Furthermore, complaining to the faculty is a waste of time since they don't care about what you think. They have all sorts of prefabricated answers whenever you say this or that has affected you. The administration is quite poor; it seems they don't know how to communicate with each other. Lecturers always blame the Faculty and vice versa.

Having attended and now worked for UCD, and having heard similar stories from people in Trinity, DIT and IADT, it's much the same for all colleges. For the lecturers the administration is every bit as bad as for the students. There's generally a disconnection between different types of staff. The lecturers live in a bit of an academic bubble, which is fair enough, and have a huge amount of students to deal with, so they have to be pretty economical with their time. It's not great for anyone, I'll admit, and I hated my time as an undergraduate, but I guess I can see now why it was such an administrative nightmare at times. Just getting word to a class of college students that there's a cancellation or change is difficult at times.

As for the learning portion you describe, again, common to all colleges. It's such a cliche, but you get out what you put in. Of course you can just repeat what's in the books, but you're there to learn of your own volition. You can easily coast, but when essays and assignments are corrected, what's looked for is an understanding of the material, rather than repetition of it. And yes, it is possible to tell those things apart. Some modules being more work than others is just down to the lecturers, I've seen some modules have a crazy amount of work, huge essays, an exam, a project, and a module with just a short essay worth the same aount of credits. It just comes down to what the lecturer thinks is the right way to teach. Annoying, but nothing unique to one place. These are academics, they're a quirky bunch and some lean more to the notion that students have to be directed forcefully to the material. The lectures aren't supposed to cover everything, not even close, so they give huge assignments so you get into the library and read a ton of books. Others think you'll find your own way.

What you learn and understand when you leave is what's important, but it's a running joke that you can coast along in college in films and tv shows, as is college administration. I haven't attended Griffith, but I've seen the same exact things you describe in UCD, in the media, heard it in anecdotes. The only thing you can do is try to use the time to fully understand your subject, which requires mostly effort on your part. Lecturers, administration, cafeteria staff, they're all just there to give you the environment and some guidance towards becoming an expert in your field.

solas11

for the past 6 yrs in ireland, i have never heard a good word about griffith college:

alot of my mates study at griffith college, the most annoying problem is dealing with the international student office/adminstration.
it is completely unfair to leave students for weeks and weeks without any update on their situation. as time passes by, and options cut down, the students are left hanging in a foreign country, where their futures are in doubt.

from my point of view, is that international students feel realy depressed and upset as no one in this college is their to support them or listen to them.

not to be completely biased, but as you all know, there is a chinese woman thats avaialable at the international student office, thats only able to help chinese students, it seems that the colleges priority is towards the chinese students.
how about students from nigeria, russia etc.. do they get any kind of support?

they keep sending them from one room to another, from on person to another. with no genuine help. its disgraceful and annoying to see them suffer abroad, under staff that dont provide genuine help/ or do their jobs.

several friends studying design/architecture, had some issues with the department. the staff were always on sick leaves, teachers were pregnant, staff not showing up to class, changing lectures, and also changing parts of the course. They found it extremely difficult to contact the lecturers with their problems and issues. the design faculty staff were had no communication inbetween them what so ever, or to the adminstration office.
this created a huge problem for these students, in a way some of them had to leave back to their own countries without being able to complete their degree. (what a shame).

some are still stuck in this country, without any answers regarding there situation, its been more than 6 months now, and have heard nothing from college except for "come back next week, or the week after, drop by to <snip> by the end of the week" !!!

If anyone has ever had a problem with griffith college, you would know they dont care about you the student..the only want your money!!

some international students want some help with griffith college,but where can you find that help?
can anyone direct me to someone who can help with these situation. At this stage i have no one to go to for help..they keep wasting my time, by sending here and there, and no one can give me an answer..please help

morgans303

solas11 wrote: »

for the past 6 yrs in ireland, i have never heard a good word about griffith college:

alot of my mates study at griffith college, the most annoying problem is dealing with the international student office/adminstration.
it is completely unfair to leave students for weeks and weeks without any update on their situation. as time passes by, and options cut down, the students are left hanging in a foreign country, where their futures are in doubt.

from my point of view, is that international students feel realy depressed and upset as no one in this college is their to support them or listen to them.

not to be completely biased, but as you all know, there is a chinese woman thats avaialable at the international student office, thats only able to help chinese students, it seems that the colleges priority is towards the chinese students.
how about students from nigeria, russia etc.. do they get any kind of support?

they keep sending them from one room to another, from on person to another. with no genuine help. its disgraceful and annoying to see them suffer abroad, under staff that dont provide genuine help/ or do their jobs.

several friends studying design/architecture, had some issues with the department. the staff were always on sick leaves, teachers were pregnant, staff not showing up to class, changing lectures, and also changing parts of the course. They found it extremely difficult to contact the lecturers with their problems and issues. the design faculty staff were had no communication inbetween them what so ever, or to the adminstration office.
this created a huge problem for these students, in a way some of them had to leave back to their own countries without being able to complete their degree. (what a shame).

some are still stuck in this country, without any answers regarding there situation, its been more than 6 months now, and have heard nothing from college except for "come back next week, or the week after, drop by to <snip> by the end of the week" !!!

If anyone has ever had a problem with griffith college, you would know they dont care about you the student..the only want your money!!

some international students want some help with griffith college,but where can you find that help?
can anyone direct me to someone who can help with these situation. At this stage i have no one to go to for help..they keep wasting my time, by sending here and there, and no one can give me an answer..please help

Quite honestly, your best bet is to put a brick through one of those BMW / Mercedes car windows. They'll start listening then. :mad:

orangeytree

Hi solas11!

Hm, interesting to read your opinion but I am not really sure if I agree with your feedback at all, but I suppose everybody tells a story as they live it... anyway, here my thoughts with no other intention but to give you my point of view.

As an international graduate I think I can tell about my own experience. The international office to me was always good. Every time I had a concern, I went and ask for help, and I truly valued the work that the international office did for me from confirmation letters, visa renewals, extensions, everything, it was just a matter of requesting things in advance and planning properly, I was never left down (Although I did see many classmates struggling because they never planned for renewals or visas... and were running around in panic three days before heading home during Christmas time or the likes)

If you know someone who is depressed or is home sick, there is help in the international office, in fact, there is a counsellor on campus who is contactable 24 hrs... not sure if you read the students' manual, it is there (even in the very old version from 2004 that I got) Not to mention that the students union is great also at helping everybody and work all year round to integrate all students. I never felt left out.

I am not sure if I understood what was the issue that keeps holding "some students" waiting "for weeks and weeks"... that is unusual because in every request made to the international office you get a ticket, which states the date in which you are supposed to show up/follow up? I am sure if you had a chat with <snip>, and tell him that you don't feel he is answering your questions, he would at least be able to point you in the right direction.

About the "Chinese woman" I totally disagree, she does not only help Chinese students, I am not Chinese and found her always helpful, I think maybe you made an early assumption, but trust me, she will help you in every matter you have, she is simply great! I couldn't recommend her enough.

Of course, if you prefer to deal directly with a person of your same nationality it probably would be a good idea to send a letter to the international office requesting this, they may listen to your request or else, direct you to another person (to my knowledge there is at least one representative per continent, I think this should be of some help)

I personally think that if you need help you must ask for it. People who do not ask for help find life difficult not only in Griffith but in any other institution. It would probably be worth to write an official letter and issue it to both: the international office and the president of the college, but of course they will request factual information, no feedback can be taken as serious until there is evidence of what you state.

Hope this helps! - Happy New Year!

solas11 wrote: »

for the past 6 yrs in ireland, i have never heard a good word about griffith college:

alot of my mates study at griffith college, the most annoying problem is dealing with the international student office/adminstration.
it is completely unfair to leave students for weeks and weeks without any update on their situation. as time passes by, and options cut down, the students are left hanging in a foreign country, where their futures are in doubt.

from my point of view, is that international students feel realy depressed and upset as no one in this college is their to support them or listen to them.

not to be completely biased, but as you all know, there is a chinese woman thats avaialable at the international student office, thats only able to help chinese students, it seems that the colleges priority is towards the chinese students.
how about students from nigeria, russia etc.. do they get any kind of support?

they keep sending them from one room to another, from on person to another. with no genuine help. its disgraceful and annoying to see them suffer abroad, under staff that dont provide genuine help/ or do their jobs.

several friends studying design/architecture, had some issues with the department. the staff were always on sick leaves, teachers were pregnant, staff not showing up to class, changing lectures, and also changing parts of the course. They found it extremely difficult to contact the lecturers with their problems and issues. the design faculty staff were had no communication inbetween them what so ever, or to the adminstration office.
this created a huge problem for these students, in a way some of them had to leave back to their own countries without being able to complete their degree. (what a shame).

some are still stuck in this country, without any answers regarding there situation, its been more than 6 months now, and have heard nothing from college except for "come back next week, or the week after, drop by to <snip> by the end of the week" !!!

If anyone has ever had a problem with griffith college, you would know they dont care about you the student..the only want your money!!

some international students want some help with griffith college,but where can you find that help?
can anyone direct me to someone who can help with these situation. At this stage i have no one to go to for help..they keep wasting my time, by sending here and there, and no one can give me an answer..please help

morgans303

If you've had a problem with GCD (and I'm sure a lot of you have), you'll be interested in this: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Students-Against-Griffith-College-Dublin/277624318967322?sk=wall

thebostoncrab

Funny how the page has 0 likes and quotes have been pulled from Boards rather than by people posting their own complaints. Yeap that's a raging majority against Griffith College right there

I'm long enough out the SU to be more open with my feelings on certain students within the college, so I'll say this: I can think of ONE person who actually came into my office to complain about a problem with the college. That's not an exaggeration, there was only one person. And you know what? The issue they had got resolved very quickly when they brought it up with me.

On the other hand, I would over hear the same minority of people complaining about the departments, the SU or something else in the college, and they would do NOTHING about it. If you are unhappy about something within the college then by not bring it up directly and try get it resolved. And if nothing happens then go to the SU and tell them.

I know full well from studying there, working there and still having friends there that it is a minority of people who are unhappy with the college, they are happy to complain about it with mates instead of trying to resolve it.

AntiGCD

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Funny how the page has 0 likes and quotes have been pulled from Boards rather than by people posting their own complaints. Yeap that's a raging majority against Griffith College right there

I'm long enough out the SU to be more open with my feelings on certain students within the college, so I'll say this: I can think of ONE person who actually came into my office to complain about a problem with the college. That's not an exaggeration, there was only one person. And you know what? The issue they had got resolved very quickly when they brought it up with me.

On the other hand, I would over hear the same minority of people complaining about the departments, the SU or something else in the college, and they would do NOTHING about it. If you are unhappy about something within the college then by not bring it up directly and try get it resolved. And if nothing happens then go to the SU and tell them.

I know full well from studying there, working there and still having friends there that it is a minority of people who are unhappy with the college, they are happy to complain about it with mates instead of trying to resolve it.

0 likes right now, but I'm about to start pouring money into advertising. This won't stop 'til every man, woman and child knows not to pick GCD. Any place that favors shareholders over students should be burned to the ground.

thebostoncrab

AntiGCD wrote: »

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Funny how the page has 0 likes and quotes have been pulled from Boards rather than by people posting their own complaints. Yeap that's a raging majority against Griffith College right there

I'm long enough out the SU to be more open with my feelings on certain students within the college, so I'll say this: I can think of ONE person who actually came into my office to complain about a problem with the college. That's not an exaggeration, there was only one person. And you know what? The issue they had got resolved very quickly when they brought it up with me.

On the other hand, I would over hear the same minority of people complaining about the departments, the SU or something else in the college, and they would do NOTHING about it. If you are unhappy about something within the college then by not bring it up directly and try get it resolved. And if nothing happens then go to the SU and tell them.

I know full well from studying there, working there and still having friends there that it is a minority of people who are unhappy with the college, they are happy to complain about it with mates instead of trying to resolve it.

0 likes right now, but I'm about to start pouring money into advertising. This won't stop 'til every man, woman and child knows not to pick GCD. Any place that favors shareholders over students should be burned to the ground.

....I can't tell if you're joking or not. I'll assume you actually believe that statement.

I'll tell you one thing that shows that the college gives a damn about it's students: in the SU we would regularly talk with the directors to get support for different things to help students lives, and they have always been very eager to hear us and help us out. Tomas in particular really wanted to hear everything and give help when he was asked. We got wifi brought in, increased events numbers and got permission to allow more late night events. We got issues within departments resolved (I had one big case that Tomas made a top priority and to this day I'll stand by him for what he did). The directors want students to be happy, because if they are not then the college fails.

I'll say it again, if you have a problem with the college then tell them! Nothing gets resolved just by posting here or starting a Facebook group. And if you feel you're not getting anywhere, bring the SU along, that's what they are there for (Yes every year there are some you know wouldn't help you but there are those who will and they are very easy to spot)

owenbutt

First of all, DO NOT DELETE THIS OR BAN because this is my experience with Griffith and feedback. It's not a moaning or bitch1ing. I have every right to it as I have spent a lot of money and time.

For everyone who has been reading all the previous posts if you think it's a myth then you are wrong. Griffith college is the WORST ever place you can imagine.

The college is interested on the commercial side of things than academic. It's all about fees, fees, fees otherwise they don't want to listen or talk to you. The restaurant has limited choice of menu not to mention highly expensive. The international office is a foreign students nightmare. Accounts are horrible as they don't even want to talk to you. And faculty (especially computing) are full of attitude and make sure that they don't make you feel welcome at all.

My personal experience was in relation to fees. I have been associated with this college for the last 10 years. Did my degree which cost me 35,000 euro. Went on to do my master after 4 years which was another 7,000 euro and thought that being an ex-student of the college I might be entitled to a reduction in fees. I was offered 300 euro which the president "Mr X" reluctantly conditionally agreed after a lot of wriggling. The faculty head of the department "Mr Y" then improved on that to 500 euro. Because of the breakdown in communication, accounts, faculty and admissions office were completely oblivious of what was going on. I was sent around on a wild goose chase to seek out persons unknown for 10 months. The guy "Mr Z" in admission office would be there for two random weeks every week and everything stopped untill he was back next week. You couldn't get through to anyone on phones. Emails were seldom replied back to. The college has a system of controlling student fees where they cut you off from moodle so you don't have access to your notes and assignments. I ended up falling behind my assignments due to lack of access to moodle. To cut to the chase, after my second semester exams I still had no results even after 3 weeks of them being announced. I had repeats in first week of august and at the time of this writing still don't know what assignments and exams I have to repeat. I ended up paying the 500 euro balance and refused the discount in order to get my results quicker but I'm still at loss as I don't have my results yet. They even demanded an apology out of me for causing inconvenience to everyone and chasing them around.

If they can do it to an ex-student, then nobody is ever going to be spared. My suggestion to everyone is STAY A MILE AWAY FROM THERE and learn from others experiences.

By the way orangeytree seems like a part of the griffith faculty the way he/she is full of information and wonderful ideas. She/he has read the college manual all the way from 2004 till he/she posted that message in 2011. I wonder what he/she has been doing there for 7 years. And about the students running around in panic 3 days before their visas, then I think you have pointed out a weakness in griffith administration that the are not prompt to act on time for anything. They need weeks and weeks to sort out any problem. And by the way if you need any factual proof or information about it then I have 29 emails to prove that if the board allows it then I can post them here.


And my dear thebostoncrab, The only thing that I haven't done and the only person I have not approached is SU because I have knocked on every door you can imagine. But I will give SU a call right now and see what happens. I have taken a lot of time to write this message and by God I am not doing this just for the fun of it.

Procrastastudy

LOL you again - didnt get a discount and now you're moaning. Maybe you weren't up to getting a discount.

Resturant - yep pretty pants. Cant argue with the burgers though they are pretty nice shame they are only on two days a week.

Accounts - Yep take no prisoners regards fees - what do you expect. If you want a free education go to a University. I've always found them very helpful as long as you pay them.

Admin can be slow but try any full blow uni in Ireland and comapre it to that. Jesus there are some hilarous memes around regards DCU and UCD student services. Some of the facualty admins in GCD will do anything for you if you ask nicely.

EDIT: Did you give that poor person that had the misfortune of buying a car off you her tax disc yet?

owenbutt

Hey GCDLawStudent, let's not make this personal otherwise we will get distracted. I'm not doing this to get a discount out of this. I was glad I found this thread because the one that I opened up was closed down in an hour on the basis that GCD is a private business and it's upto them to decide how to conduct their business. Boards.ie should shutdown their website if people can't openly speak their mind on a public forum even if that involves bad mouthing about someone because GCD can come aboard and defend themselves. Just like a lot of student's in this thread I'm talking about the hassle and waste of time I had to go through which in turn affected my studies big time.

I do ask nicely and only have been able to get through my studies due to "FEW" of the nice lecturers and admin staff hence stuck around there for 10 years, but their hands are tied in most cases and you end up dealing with admin eventually at some stage. And truly I could have gone to the worst uni in Ireland and paid peanuts and never complained but when I'm paying top dollar in a private institute, I want to make sure that it is appreciated and I get my money's worth out of it. I wish I would have gone to DCU or UCD if I knew I was going to get this sort of treatment. And if you are telling me that this is the sort of treatment you can expect in any university in Ireland, then maybe the system in Ireland needs to be improved because it's no fun when the only thing you want to do is give priority to your studies and stay focused instead of trying to sort out your problems all the year round and chasing people and get them to do their job.

Again, this is for the mods, please no personal and smart comments and let's focus on the overall collective issue. GCD should look at this as feedback and opportunity to improve their service because all of us are not imagining it.

Edit: GCDLawStudent. That tax disc has been posted to her. She did not have a misfortune buying a car off me but infact I offered it to her at the point of sale and she refused to take it saying she will sort it out herself. She came with 3 other guys so she was well informed, but she contacted me looking for assistance later in the matter which I did provide her. If you like I can PM you her phone number and you can ask her yourself and for any other a55holes out there who dont' give up giving cheap comments for a genuine question out of innocence and ignorence about the way the system works. You are such a cheapstake that you would go down that low when you have nothing else to say. Hope this will now shut you up. If you want to talk about this more then go to the relevant thread or start a new one because you are hijacking a GCD thread.

Where are the mods on this one?

Procrastastudy

All 3 of you - the last guy who tried to launch a we hate GCD campaign failed as well? Why - becuase on the whole they are at the same standard as most colleges / Unis in Ireland. Not perfect but nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

You didnt pay your fees so didn't get moodle access and messed up your course. I don't see where GCD is at fault here.

owenbutt

My friend, again this is not about me alone but I will still answer the question. I DID pay my fees infact untill now I have paid 42,000 euros lol, but the arrangement and communication between departments took 10 months which could have taken at most 10 days and the matter is still not sorted out and I have documented proof for all of this so watch before you give your opinion because you are only guessing most of it.

Moving on to the broader aspect of it, this is not a hate GCD campaign. It is a "i Love GCD" campaign and "I want to improve" GCD campaign and about providing students a platform to present their concerns because trust me there are a lot of student and especially international student's who are not happy and satisfied but GCD gets away with it because everybody just moves on and does not bother bringing it to notice. We are only trying to highlight genuine problems here without spicing it up and if anyone is up for it then I can go as far as doing a research on it and gathering more concrete data as I know tons of GCD students who are willing to contribute to it.

I even know staff in GCD personally who admit that it's not the best place they would like to work at if they had a choice.

I have a feeling you sound like some who is a part of the administration.

Procrastastudy

I don't know about the Computering faculty but Law has a student council that sorts out most issues students have.

Your posts don't come across as constructive, or indeed, sincere. As for me people can draw their own conclusions. I am a fan of GCD but I'm well aware of their limitations as per my posts on the matter.

owenbutt

Well there are several hundred students there so not everyone can be as happy as you are. Also I do appreciate that for GCD it is difficult to keep all the students happy but I think the problem here is on a grand scale. I have been working in services for several years but there is a difference between being overworked and being completely grumpy because when you are overworked you can still be helpful and polite and friendly. But all you get from admin in GCD is attitude attitude attitude. People in admin run away from you as soon as they see you like as if you are going to eat them when infact you just want to say hello to them. Sad.

You can draw your own conclusions but we are just trying to use this forum because we are not getting any satisfaction and help from anyone or anywhere. I can identify myself. My name is Omar Butt just to make sure that no one thinks that I'm on a campaign to defame GCD. I am a genuine GCD student and maybe everyone else can identify themselves from now on so we can know that no one from GCD is coming up here under make belief names and declaring us a bunch of lunatics who are a very small minority who moan all the time no matter where they go.

landsleaving

My experience of GCD's administration has been pretty good, just to give some balance.

I did find out midway through my first semester of an MA that I'd paid €500 more than almost everyone else in my class because the fees were dropped just before the start of term and I'd paid well in advance. I got the €500 back in my bank account in less than a week. So did the other few who were charged more. In UCD, where I did a BA, that would never have happened. Honestly in comparison to UCD, Griffith is far superior admin-wise and much friendlier in my experience. I've plenty I could complain about but nothing that would be different to another college.

Also, why on Earth would you get a discount just because you'd been there before as an undergrad?

owenbutt

Because if you don't ask you don't get it. And I know numerous students who have recieved it in the past. Just to make this clear once again. This is not about me getting a discount or that I deserved to get one. This is about the difficulty and inconvenience I had to face when I asked for one which I would have been better off not asking for in the first place.

melekalikimaka

this thread has so far been cleaned up many times, whats up imo is fair and justified, theres a mix of views with no names which I would like to keep that way, no posting emails up and no name and shaming please.

I had a wonderful experience, possibly as my dept was quite small and well managed (photography), few issues with some students, but thats college, did a degree in DIT and same issues arose, no college is perfect, yes its a profit driven college, and as a result will pressure for money and well within their rights to withhold results as a result, but there are proceedures in place to recifiy issues and the SU are good at dealing with things when these go astray, the su work closely with the college heads. They dont want you to have a bad experience, it would be bad business.

Plain of Aleion

unfortunately I have had a similar experience to Omar.

There is just so much inconsistency. Essentially the biggest whiner (who usually are poor students) are getting best prices.

I know one student who is related to an embassy and they get a further discount. Its not fair that those who get good grades and are in financial difficulty as the jobs promised by recruiter in presentation are not there dont get same treatment.

i have paid higher fees but feel the service is less than irish students...