Cowen to address the nation

annoyingbeast

Armed Rebellion?

Nevyn

http://newswhip.ie/national-2/bailout

Bailout taoiseach says he is not a liability
Posted on November 21, 2010 by Gerard Cunningham

Brian Cowen finally appeared on RTE at 8.30pm on Sunday night to say what everyone already knew. Ireland needs a bailout.

“I don’t accept the premise of what you’re saying,” Cowen told columnist Vincent Browne, who asked if he accepted he was seen as a liability to his party, government and country.

He was speaking at a press conference held in Government Buildings, announcing a major financial assistance package agreed with the EU.

The taoiseach said the question of amending the Irish corporation tax, seen as controversial by several European governments, had not arisen.

Finance minister Brian Lenihan said the fundamentals of the economy remained sound.

Asked if he had “thought about packing it in”, the taoiseach said his government would show it’s continued determination to tackle Ireland’s problems. However, he did not say if he would remain as taoiseach of the government.

“In relation to my own position I have made it very clear this government is determined to fulfil its duty,” he said.

He said he was confident the budget would receive majority support in the Dáil.

Brian Lenihan said that overseas and non-essential assets of the banks would be disposed of.

And the taoiseach told journalist Vincent Browne he could not give a specific answer on the question of how much would be drawn down by the government.

OctavarIan

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

See how quick RTE cut short the intervew outside LH as soon as the protesters chanting 'OUT, OUT, OUT' started getting louder.

Pathetic :rolleyes:

You mean cutting an interview short because background noise started overpowering it?

Yeah, that's shocking :rolleyes:

ejmaztec

We know we're screwed, but it's consoling to know that the FF government is quadruply-screwed.

Yo Buddy. You still alive?

Pat Rabbiteeeeeeee "Some would say that it is good that people who can count are looking after it now"

Or something like that

James2693

Fianna FAIL

ascanbe

Revolution9 wrote: »

Lenihan is just as much to blame as Cowen.
He is just as sly, and just as incompetent.

Lenihan is infinitely more sly.

Collie D

lmaopml wrote: »

He couldn't hold his mouth, he actually shamed us with that barrage on this day of all days.....He could do that anywhere and regularly does, but knew that every single country is looking on tonight.
Dope.
.

Except for the one country that counts because our so-called national broadcaster cut the feed.

I don't realy care what the rest of Europe thinks about us any more. They've got us where they want us, f*ck Europe to be honest.

OctavarIan

Duiske wrote: »

Speaking of the Greens, them ****ers are fairly keeping their heads down this past week, ain't they ?

They're probably kept busy sleeping around with all the opposition.

Mrmoe

feck this for a game of conkers, I'm outta here.:mad:

ascanbe

OctavarIan wrote: »

You mean cutting an interview short because background noise started overpowering it?

Yeah, that's shocking :rolleyes:

I was watching on RTE; didn't notice any background noise let alone overpowering background noise.

bonerm

OctavarIan wrote: »

You mean cutting an interview short because background noise started overpowering it?

Yeah, that's shocking :rolleyes:

Something tells me that if they'd been chanting "Five More Years. Five More Years. " that RTE would have managed to soldier thru the noise.

Cheap Thrills!

OctavarIan wrote: »

You mean cutting an interview short because background noise started overpowering it?

Yeah, that's shocking :rolleyes:

It was nowhere near overpowering it. Don't be ridiculous. It's just RTE doing it's usual denial routine.

Absurdum

PRESS RELEASE

21 November 2010 - ECB Governing Council welcomes the request of the Irish Government for financial assistance

The Governing Council of the European Central Bank (ECB) welcomes the request of the Irish Government for financial assistance from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the European Union and euro-area Member States. The ECB concurs with the Commission, Ecofin Ministers and the Eurogroup that providing assistance to Ireland is warranted to safeguard financial stability in the European Union and in the euro area.

The European Union and euro-area financial support, together with the IMF financing, will be provided under strong policy conditionality, on the basis of a programme negotiated with the Irish authorities by the Commission and the IMF, in liaison with the ECB.

We are confident that this programme will contribute to ensuring the stability of the Irish banking system and permit it to perform its role in the functioning of the economy.

European Central Bank
Directorate Communications
Press and Information Division
Kaiserstrasse 29, D-60311 Frankfurt am Main
Tel.: +49 69 1344 7455, Fax: +49 69 1344 7404
Internet: http://www.ecb.europa.eu
Reproduction is permitted provided that the source is acknowledged.

http://www.ecb.int/press/pr/date/2010/html/pr101121.en.html

alex73

Did you hear that this thread was commented on by FOX news?

Right - this is it. We, as a nation, cannot stand for this anymore. Our government has let us down. They have lied to us, they have made us into a laughing stock to the rest of the world. We have let ourselves down for letting them get away with it for as long as we have been. It's time to take action. Bombard RTÉ with angry emails, phone calls, faxes - whatever you can. Protest outside of your city halls, your county halls. Let them know that we have had enough.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

Or as Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip put it in "Stake a Claim"

In this democracy I as a citizen reserve the right to stand up for what I believe in*
In this democracy I as a citizen I'm not accountable to the government
In this democracy the government is accountable to us, the people
In this democracy the government is elected by us, the people
To represent us, the people
In our best interests, on national and international scale
And if they're not doing so, In this democracy, I as a citizen reserve the right
To raise up

phasers

God, Brian Lenihan looked so unwell. I feel a bit bad for him to be honest (on a personal level, not political), Cowen on the other hand can go and hang for all I care

That press conference was complete bollocks, they really don't give a toss about the public do they? They're either lying to our faces or telling us silly platitudes

KK4SAM

Nforce wrote: »

Taoiseach Brian Cowen is apparently set to address the nation ... to be broadcast at some stage on RTE1.

Serious LIP LICKING TO BE DONE

Minstrel27

crayolastereo wrote: »

Don't they know Christmas is cancelled?

Speak for yourself.

Kristopherus

Is that some of the Shell to Sea wasters I see behind Sean Whelan:eek:

Mister men

Sky news did'nt cut the feed when Vinne called it like it was to Clowen and comical lenny. I'm calling for a national stoppage of the licence fee to RTE after the way they have backed FF today. Unacceptable.

x in the city

what did vinny say...?

the boards server is shagged

alwaysadub

alex73 wrote: »

Did you hear that this thread was commented on by FOX news?

What'd they say?

clikityclak

Anyone voting FF in the next election should be sectioned. Bertie, Cowen and the FF cronies plundered into abyss not giving a sh1t for the ordinary Joe Soap... FUMING!!!

Red Alert

As another poster pointed out above, Lenihan is a smooth operator and is able to manipulate people's feelings. He appears businesslike, caring and on our side - he is not by any means.

complaints@rte.ie


vincent browne special at 10.30tonight on the bailout

Chuchoter

alex73 wrote: »

Did you hear that this thread was commented on by FOX news?

We're famous!
What did they say?

x in the city

alex73 wrote: »

Did you hear that this thread was commented on by FOX news?

source?

Fukuyama

From the bottom of my heart comes the following:

To anyone who engaged in activity of any sorts which had a direct consequence as to financially nasal rape this once proud country; **** you.

Sungodbr

Fat Traitor!!!!

Kippure

Kristopherus wrote: »

Is that some of the Shell to Sea wasters I see behind Sean Whelan:eek:

The were just pointing out we sold all are natural resources years ago......to the big oil company,s......

Hootanany

anyone got a link

Captain Pillowcase

Deleted User wrote: »

Right - this is it. We, as a nation, cannot stand for this anymore. Our government has let us down. They have lied to us, they have made us into a laughing stock to the rest of the world. We have let ourselves down for letting them get away with it for as long as we have been. It's time to take action. Bombard RTÉ with angry emails, phone calls, faxes - whatever you can. Protest outside of your city halls, your county halls. Let them know that we have had enough.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!"

Or as Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip put it in "Stake a Claim"

Or to Quote Keane! "I predict a riot"

People are mad. Everywhere is hopping. It's time to make Cowen remember he is there to serve OUR interests not his and his cronnies.

mloc123

Captain Pillowcase wrote: »

Or to Quote Keane! "I predict a riot"

Kaiser Chiefs, not Keane.

Mister men

Unfortunately i can see bloodshed on the streets in the next few weeks after this. Jesus all jokes aside this is a black day for the country.:(

skeleton_boy

Who's Vinnie and what did he do that caused the feed to be cut?

bonerm

Captain Pillowcase wrote: »

Or to Quote Keane! "I predict a riot"

Did Keane cover that shít song too?

Sea Sharp

Did anybody record it?
I got sick of all the doom and gloom and decided to go for a nap and missed it.

Jimbob 83

Fair play to Vincent Brown , he didn't hold back it was amusing watching that useless excuse for a party leader squirm

Yo Buddy. You still alive?

mike65 wrote: »

Is anyone finding boards as slow as BIFFO? 6651 people browsing right now.

There were 1031 on AH at the height of it* and 342 on the politics section plus 173 on the Irish Economy section.

I think that quite a lot of people were more interested in other issues Probably xfactor or something.


*When I took some screen shot to see how many were on.

johnn

I assuming he was letting us know he's giving himself a raise? well deserved IMO

themadhair

complaints@rte.ie

To whom it may concern,

Earlier this evening there was a press conference wherein the Taoiseach and finance minister of our country told us, the Irish people, that Ireland had formally asked the EU for financial aid. Despite the importance of this event I have to say that I am absolutely livid at RTE and how they covered the event. There are two major bones of contention that have disappointed me greatly;

1) Your journalist asked the first questions off the Taoiseach and the finance minister. Despite this opportunity, your journalist asked the most irrelevant questions of the conference. It is astounding to me that the BBC journalist could display more understanding and solidarity with the Irish people in his questioning than could the RTE journalist.

2) RTE cut their coverage of the conference short, particularly when the hard questions wanted by the Irish people were being asked. Given the importance of this event I am staggered at the editorial decision taken by RTE to cut their coverage of the questioning short.

RTE has a responsibility to keep the Irish people informed of political developments, and that responsibility was shirked tonight. That many people on internet forums learned more details regarding this press conference, and could access the conference in full, on foreign channels rather than the national broadcaster is a disgrace.

The Irish people who pay their licences to fund RTE deserved better.

Regards,

The Pontiac

lmaopml wrote: »

I thought Vincent was an ass tbh. He wants the Taoiseach and the Government that are in the middle of some of the biggest talks we've ever needed to 'go right' - to resign straight away - and announces it all over the global stage, cause that's going to really help the national interest at this point in time, and contribute to our bargaining power with Europe and the IMF.

He couldn't hold his mouth, he actually shamed us with that barrage on this day of all days.....He could do that anywhere and regularly does, but knew that every single country is looking on tonight.


Dope.

They haven't released any details as of yet, because quite obviously they are still barganing Vincent you bloody ass, nice undermining for the sake of another 15 mins of fame - Shees President? No thanks...

I don't agree. He was asking very specific questions that needed to be answered, like where is the money going to go? "The banks" is all he had to say. Not a very difficult question. Another question: Why isn't anyone in government accountable for their actions and own up to their responsibilities? Did you hear the guy on the BBC before the speech. He was laying into Fiana Fail and Anglo, calling the whole thing an absolute disgrace.

Jesus, Vincent was only asking the questions we all wanted answered. And where better to do it, but on the world stage where everyone is watching.

Brown got hammered by the recession - his family home is actually going on the market and is rightly a little píssed off. He's not in as bad a situation as other folk though, as he pointed out himself. He really got screwed though.

The whole of Europe are paying for our own government's incompetent actions now, and he was bloody right to get stuck in. The French would have done a whole lot worse, believe me!

COYW

alex73 wrote: »

Did you hear that this thread was commented on by FOX news?

Yep, my mate just text me from a bar in Manhattan. He nearly spat his coffee over the table when he saw it.

On a more serious note, things are really gonna get tough over the next few months. I can see the public sector taking a real hammering:). If you listen carefully, you can hear the faint clicking of the typewriters of the IMF crews as they slash their numbers and their salaries. Saw those Shell to Sea bankers there alright. Horrible shower, can't stand them.

johnn

I wish Brian's brother Sandy was running our country...

bonerm

Mister men wrote: »

Unfortunately i can see bloodshed on the streets in the next few weeks after this. Jesus all jokes aside this is a black day for the country.:(

Nah there won't be bloodshed. An "innocent" has to be killed by an authority figure before the angry mob feel they have the mandate to bring violence to the table. It's their simple self-righteous view of life that (in their mind at least) justifies everything they do.

themadhair

themadhair wrote: »

complaints@rte.ie

To whom it may concern,

Earlier this evening there was a press conference wherein the Taoiseach and finance minister of our country told us, the Irish people, that Ireland had formally asked the EU for financial aid. Despite the importance of this event I have to say that I am absolutely livid at RTE and how they covered the event. There are two major bones of contention that have disappointed me greatly;

1) Your journalist asked the first questions off the Taoiseach and the finance minister. Despite this opportunity, your journalist asked the most irrelevant questions of the conference. It is astounding to me that the BBC journalist could display more understanding and solidarity with the Irish people in his questioning than could the RTE journalist.

2) RTE cut their coverage of the conference short, particularly when the hard questions wanted by the Irish people were being asked. Given the importance of this event I am staggered at the editorial decision taken by RTE to cut their coverage of the questioning short.

RTE has a responsibility to keep the Irish people informed of political developments, and that responsibility was shirked tonight. That many people on internet forums learned more details regarding this press conference, and could access the conference in full, on foreign channels rather than the national broadcaster is a disgrace.

The Irish people who pay their licences to fund RTE deserved better.

Regards,

Done.

Javiero

RTE are advertising terminal 2 Dublin airport like mad. As if that's going to help us when tourists will be afraid to come here

ascanbe

mloc123 wrote: »

Kaiser Chiefs, not Keane.

Maybe Roy Keane said it at some stage.

bnt

Never mind Fox News, what about Twitter?

N1GHTFALL: Breaking News. Steve Jobs is to buy Ireland to solve the debt problem. It will be rebranded iLand #Bailout

ElaineByrne Elaine Byrne
This is a bad day for Ireland, on top of other bad days. Things will get worse before they get better. But we will get through this #bailout

urchinette Anna Carey@Glinner Vincent Browne was amazing. You can see how people reacted to him via the hashtag #vinb

NotRTE_News NOT RTÉ News
The first thing im doing is never paying my TV licence again. RTE f[e]ckers made me miss vincent browne #bailout

vincentbrowne Vincent Browne
#Vinb Crisis special this evening 10:30pm TV3. Liveblog here: http://bit.ly/axBBCbpolitico_ie )