SPL Ref's to Strike

Brewster

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Is there still a full SPL programme after the Portuguese boys changing their mind after flying in to Glasgow? What the hell was that about??And another thing-Why didnt the Irish refs go over-being off season? This ref solidarity stuff is bulls**t. These Scottish refs are acting like spoiled little schoolkids. Its all evil Lennons fault no doubt:mad:.Seems like hes about to be at fault for the holocaust next. "Lennon did all dis-we arra peeple-no surrender-the famine is over go home-Walter always has dignity-up to our knees in fenian blood" etc, etc.

Walter has more dignity than Lennon will ever have I am afraid to say. Celtic and their conspiracy theories, inuendo are largely to blame for this. This "honest mistakes" rubbish from Lennon is the reason it has come to this and any Celtic supporter who thinks otherwise is barking mad. You can question an officials mistakes all day long, and with justification, but when you question his impartality, then you step over the white line. Any official in ANY sport will tell you this. Lenny has overstepped the mark. The SFA should have hauled Lenny up on a disrupute charge at the time, and then this would have been end of issue. The Scottish game is stumbling from one fiasco to the next now because of their lack of action against Lennon a few weeks back.

Brewster

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

The only way to sicken em is to win the title.Scottish football is steeped in Rangers to win.John Reid asked the refs to nominate who they support(like they do in England.-Cant ref team you support.) and now they're all striking. I wonder why. If asked in a lie detector situation Id say 80-90% would be supporters of the peeeple. HAVE THEY SOMETHING TO HIDE? You bloody well bet they do!

Absolute nonsense.. Refs are in the game for the love of it, they want to do the very best they can and ref in big games throughout the world... If you think their world revolves around Celtic Football Club, you are deluding yourself.

ziggy

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Dempsey

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

The only way to sicken em is to win the title.Scottish football is steeped in Rangers to win.John Reid asked the refs to nominate who they support(like they do in England.-Cant ref team you support.) and now they're all striking. I wonder why. If asked in a lie detector situation Id say 80-90% would be supporters of the peeeple. HAVE THEY SOMETHING TO HIDE? You bloody well bet they do!

It wasnt Reid, it was some politician Wishart AFAIK. Its a good idea for referees to excuse themselves from matches where they may feel there is a conflict of interest without judgement. For that system to have any chance of working, the information needs to remain completely confidential. The public doesnt need to know who supports who, its a matter between referee's and the SFA, nobody else. But I dont think that could happen as newspaper will be offering money for former and current employee's to give them info. **** storms over nothing would happen.

Personally, I think I could referee a match, if trained up, between Celtic and Rangers impartially. I dont think my background would impair me to make the right decisions. Just because I support Celtic doesnt mean I'm incapable of enforcing the rules of the game that involves Celtic and/or Rangers. That wouldnt stop the conspiracy theorists making up ****, managers & players not agreeing with my decisions though.

I dont think its anywhere near 80% of referee's that support Rangers. Not everyone is Scotland is either Celtic or Rangers. Alot of people just hate the Old Firm. You telling me that someone from Aberdeen is most likely a Rangers supporter over Celtic or vice versa? They hate us both, Rangers more though! :pac:

Dempsey

Brewster wrote: »

Walter has more dignity than Lennon will ever have I am afraid to say. Celtic and their conspiracy theories, inuendo are largely to blame for this. This "honest mistakes" rubbish from Lennon is the reason it has come to this and any Celtic supporter who thinks otherwise is barking mad. You can question an officials mistakes all day long, and with justification, but when you question his impartality, then you step over the white line. Any official in ANY sport will tell you this. Lenny has overstepped the mark. The SFA should have hauled Lenny up on a disrupute charge at the time, and then this would have been end of issue. The Scottish game is stumbling from one fiasco to the next now because of their lack of action against Lennon a few weeks back.

I'm sorry, one of the best things to ever have happened to Scottish Football in recent years just happened tonight and you are waffling on about Lennon and Celtic. Celtic are the main reason that Scottish Football has just turned a corner, i.e. an hugely incompetent employee of the SFA took a walk because of the media spotlight that Celtic have brought on the whole referee system in Scotland.

Your buying into the tabloid shíte and their perception of Lennon. Maybe you should watch press conference of other managers like Ferguson and Wenger, how they react. They have laid into referee's, others have spent weeks in the stands for their protests but you want to single out someone like Lennon who has done no different when in the same situation.

TBH, expect nothing less from someone that only has a passing interest in the SPL.

EDIT

No other FA would have allowed McDonald to continue as a grade 1 referee, its a farce.

For the last several weeks, you have done nothing but blindly defend referee's, claiming that there is nothing wrong with referees or the standard of refereeing in Scotland, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Coillte_Bhoy

Brewster wrote: »

Walter has more dignity than Lennon will ever have I am afraid to say.

Would this be the same Walter who questioned the impartiality of a linesman who's name was Murphy???

Care to reply Brewster?

PARKHEAD67

Brewster wrote: »

Absolute nonsense.. Refs are in the game for the love of it, they want to do the very best they can and ref in big games throughout the world... If you think their world revolves around Celtic Football Club, you are deluding yourself.

For the love of it? Theyre highly paid for it.Only someone who reads in braille cant see whats goin on in scottish football. Look it up on you tube. Some of the OF decisions that have gone ra peeeples way in recent years are absoloutely impossible to defend.Its bloody ridiculous. My blood boils at times when I see it right before my eyes. And all we hear is "theyre only human" BS. Big time BS.

PARKHEAD67

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Would this be the same Walter who questioned the impartiality of a linesman who's name was Murphy???

Kept mentioning Murphy as if to say-"Hes a taig, potato picker. his names bloody Murphy like". I remember it . Dignity indeed.

Dempsey

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Kept mentioning Murphy as if to say-"Hes a taig, patato picker. his names bloody Murphy like". I remember it . Dignity indeed.

Ah lads, no youtube video...:pac:

PARKHEAD67

Dempsey wrote: »

Ah lads, no youtube video...:pac:

Didnt happen so. Im sure the quotes are flying around the interweb somewhere.

PARKHEAD67

ziggy wrote: »

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Blame Neil Lennon. He is the Devil. Its all his fault. Actually ,everything that goes wrong on planet Earth is now Neil Lennons fault. I despair.

PARKHEAD67

Dempsey wrote: »

Ah lads, no youtube video...:pac:

Since yor being so smarmy about the you tube (where everyone can see thw ****e thats happening) heres 1.Type in Craig Levein post match interview.He has absolutely NOTHING to do with Celtic as you know.But he questions the ref.Why? I wonder. Was the ref possibly helping (actually making) the peeeeple win? Case closed. Nothing to do with Celtic or lennon. Its so blatant its embarrasing at this stage. I remember kyrgiagos dive v hearts in the last min few years back to win em the league eventually. The english sky sports commentator was gobsmacked that a peno was given. Honest mistakes...... Always honestly favouring one team.the list is endless.Look up youtube.

Dempsey

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Since yor being so smarmy about the you tube (where everyone can see thw ****e thats happening) heres 1.Type in Craig Levein post match interview.He has absolutely NOTHING to do with Celtic as you know.But he questions the ref.Why? I wonder. Was the ref possibly helping (actually making) the peeeeple win? Case closed. Nothing to do with Celtic or lennon. Its so blatant its embarrasing at this stage. I remember kyrgiagos dive v hearts in the last min few years back to win em the league eventually. The english sky sports commentator was gobsmacked that a peno was given. Honest mistakes...... Always honestly favouring one team.the list is endless.Look up youtube.

Mate, check out post #16, i posted that interview already!

Note right at the end that youtube vid, Terry Butcher ex Rangers hatchetman, ALSO questions why referees buckle under the pressure when his team (at the time ICT afaik) couldnt buy a decision against Rangers.

PARKHEAD67

Dempsey wrote: »

Mate, check out post #16, i posted that interview already!

Note right at the end that youtube vid, Terry Butcher ex Rangers hatchetman, ALSO questions why referees buckle under the pressure when his team (at the time ICT afaik) couldnt buy a decision against Rangers.

Sorry man. Im just so angry at the way everything is being thrown at Lennon and Celtic. The root of the problem is a blatant bias towards de peeple.Thats the real problem that needs addressing.

Dempsey

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Sorry man. Im just so angry at the way everything is being thrown at Lennon and Celtic. The root of the problem is a blatant bias towards de peeple.Thats the real problem that needs addressing.

I dont believe that there is a bias, just sheer incompetence and corruption, not just aimed at Celtic. Its right across the game. My point of view, and other people's point of views, are put across throughout the thread. You should get yourself up to speed tbh

Without getting into another rant, basically I dont want to be copy and pasting my earlier posts because I've repeated myself enough at this stage You'll get a good sense of everyones point of view if you take the time to read the thread (i know its long!)

PARKHEAD67

Dempsey wrote: »

I dont believe that there is a bias, just sheer incompetence and corruption, not just aimed at Celtic. Its right across the game. My point of view, and other people's point of views, are put across throughout the thread. You should get yourself up to speed tbh

Without getting into another rant, basically I dont want to be copy and pasting my earlier posts because I've repeated myself enough at this stage You'll get a good sense of everyones point of view if you take the time to read the thread (i know its long!)

OK. Before I was accepted in SOCCER in boards I obviously looked at the thread. Could never figure you out. I havent read EVERy thread but who do you support?

PARKHEAD67

Dempsey wrote: »

I dont believe that there is a bias, just sheer incompetence and corruption, not just aimed at Celtic. Its right across the game. My point of view, and other people's point of views, are put across throughout the thread. You should get yourself up to speed tbh

Without getting into another rant, basically I dont want to be copy and pasting my earlier posts because I've repeated myself enough at this stage You'll get a good sense of everyones point of view if you take the time to read the thread (i know its long!)

So who do you support without me having to read everything?

PARKHEAD67

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

So who do you support without me having to read everything?

Let me guess-Partick Thistle?? Pure neutral.:D

Dempsey

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

So who do you support without me having to read everything?

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Let me guess-Partick Thistle?? Pure neutral.:D

I'm Celtic through and through mate, are you on a windup?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Dempsey wrote: »

I'm Celtic through and through mate, are you on a windup?

Right time to tell the truth Dempsey you one of them pesky thistle fans or not

Dempsey

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Right time to tell the truth Dempsey you one of them pesky thistle fans or not

LOL!

Yes, its true. I'm a Jag. Fúck u all!! :pac:

Coillte_Bhoy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Would this be the same Walter who questioned the impartiality of a linesman who's name was Murphy???

Care to reply Brewster?

Eirebear

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Care to reply Brewster?

People keep making a big deal out of this, as if Walter somehow brought Murphy's heritage into it all. Here's a direct quote.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2008/11/13/rangers-boss-walter-smith-blasts-linesman-over-offside-blunder-86908-20891037/

"It was a poor decision by the linesman. I think the TV replays show quite clearly that Kris Boyd was onside.

"Mr Murphy was quick to allow a Scott McDonald goal at Celtic Park last season. And he was quick to disallow that one tonight.

"People always say we are the club who never get any decisions against us.

But that's two goals we've scored away from home this season at Aberdeen and Motherwell that the linesmen have got wrong."

The linesman's name IS Mr Murphy right? Because unless he's got his name wrong, i dont see the problem.

PARKHEAD67

Eirebear wrote: »

People keep making a big deal out of this, as if Walter somehow brought Murphy's heritage into it all. Here's a direct quote.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2008/11/13/rangers-boss-walter-smith-blasts-linesman-over-offside-blunder-86908-20891037/


The linesman's name IS Mr Murphy right? Because unless he's got his name wrong, i dont see the problem.

He kept saying Mr. Murphy. I know your not thick eirebear.Dont insult our intelligence.

CSF

Seriously, do Celtic and their fans do anything other than throw away leads and moan about perceived injustices?

Dempsey

CSF wrote: »

Seriously, do Celtic and their fans do anything other than throw away leads and moan about perceived injustices?

What the fúck are you babbling on about? Who complained about referee decisions today?? Get back under your rock.

A Dub in Glasgo

CSF wrote: »

Seriously, do Celtic and their fans do anything other than throw away leads and moan about perceived injustices?

OMFG!!!











Another post about SFA

CSF

Dempsey wrote: »

What the fúck are you babbling on about? Who complained about referee decisions today?? Get back under your rock.

Did I mention referee decisions today?

A Dub in Glasgo

CSF wrote: »

Did I mention referee decisions today?

Are you on delayed reaction mode then?

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

Did I mention referee decisions today?

Uncompute with your computer, take a lemsip and go to bed.Good lad.

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

For the love of it? Theyre highly paid for it.Only someone who reads in braille cant see whats goin on in scottish football. Look it up on you tube. Some of the OF decisions that have gone ra peeeples way in recent years are absoloutely impossible to defend.Its bloody ridiculous. My blood boils at times when I see it right before my eyes. And all we hear is "theyre only human" BS. Big time BS.

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Blame Neil Lennon. He is the Devil. Its all his fault. Actually ,everything that goes wrong on planet Earth is now Neil Lennons fault. I despair.

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Since yor being so smarmy about the you tube (where everyone can see thw ****e thats happening) heres 1.Type in Craig Levein post match interview.He has absolutely NOTHING to do with Celtic as you know.But he questions the ref.Why? I wonder. Was the ref possibly helping (actually making) the peeeeple win? Case closed. Nothing to do with Celtic or lennon. Its so blatant its embarrasing at this stage. I remember kyrgiagos dive v hearts in the last min few years back to win em the league eventually. The english sky sports commentator was gobsmacked that a peno was given. Honest mistakes...... Always honestly favouring one team.the list is endless.Look up youtube.

Dempsey wrote: »

Mate, check out post #16, i posted that interview already!

Note right at the end that youtube vid, Terry Butcher ex Rangers hatchetman, ALSO questions why referees buckle under the pressure when his team (at the time ICT afaik) couldnt buy a decision against Rangers.

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Sorry man. Im just so angry at the way everything is being thrown at Lennon and Celtic. The root of the problem is a blatant bias towards de peeple.Thats the real problem that needs addressing.

CSF wrote: »

Seriously, do Celtic and their fans do anything other than throw away leads and moan about perceived injustices?

Hardly ancient history like. Just going on the last 24 hours, without even looking in the specialised Celtic thread.

Dempsey

CSF wrote: »

Hardly ancient history like. Just going on the last 24 hours, without even looking in the specialised Celtic thread.

The post you've quoted from me has no relevance to the shíte you posted. I'd like you to explain how it is? This should be good!

CSF

Dempsey wrote: »

The post you've quoted from me has no relevance to the shíte you posted. I'd like you to explain how it is? This should be good!

Again the implication that Rangers get everything ahead of everyone else in the league, instead of just being better than everyone else in the league.

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

Hardly ancient history like. Just going on the last 24 hours, without even looking in the specialised Celtic thread.

I stand by everything I said.Whats your problem? I never said anything about todays game? Why did Dallas quit btw? Has he something to hide? Is he ashamed of his actions in covering up for a lying, cheating referee? The conspiracy continues......

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

I stand by everything I said.Whats your problem? I never said anything about todays game? Why did Dallas quit btw? Has he something to hide? Is he ashamed of his actions in covering up for a lying, cheating referee? The conspiracy continues......

You'd have to imagine he quit because he was going to be sacked over the email.

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

Again the implication that Rangers get everything ahead of everyone else in the league, instead of just being better than everyone else in the league.

But they do. You,I and everyone knows it. Im not implicating it-Im stating it. ITS A BLOODY FACT.All this dignity rubbish from rangers. They never had the "dignity" to sign a Catholic till Souness came along. Rangers have never ever ever had a republic of ireland player play for their senior team.EXPLAIN.What are the reasons for this?

Dempsey

CSF wrote: »

Again the implication that Rangers get everything ahead of everyone else in the league, instead of just being better than everyone else in the league.

In the context of everything I've posted in this thread, that is horseshít. I've never claimed bias or favouritism once. Also I've never "moan about perceived injustices" against Celtic. My comment, if you bothered your hole to read the thread, was in the context that referee's regularly choke when Celtic and Rangers are involved and arent up to the standard required to officiate in the SPL.

Also that comment I made was in reference to a match that happened over 2 years ago. You just came into this thread looking to windup people with a completely inaccurate generalisation given what has been discussed in this thread. Again I say, go back to the rock that you crawled from out under.

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

But they do. You,I and everyone knows it. Im not implicating it-Im stating it. ITS A BLOODY FACT.All this dignity rubbish from rangers. They never had the "dignity" to sign a Catholic till Souness came along. Rangers have never ever ever had a republic of ireland player play for their senior team.EXPLAIN.What are the reasons for this?

Have Celtic ever had a player from Nicaragua play for their senior team.EXPLAIN.What are the reasons for this?

Who cares if Rangers are selective based on ethnicity with who they sign? We don't moan when Bilbao do it. It is admired then.

Dempsey wrote: »

In the context of everything I've posted in this thread, that is horseshít. I've never claimed bias or favouritism once. Also I've never "moan about perceived injustices" against Celtic. My comment, if you bothered your hole to read the thread, was in the context that referee's regularly choke when Celtic and Rangers are involved and arent up to the standard required to officiate in the SPL.

Also that comment I made was in reference to a match that happened over 2 years ago. You just came into this thread looking to windup people with a completely inaccurate generalisation given what has been discussed in this thread. Again I say, go back to the rock that you crawled from out under.

I didn't mention bias or favouritism either you'll note. Also I saw no implication from you that Celtic are also beneficiaries of the choking, so I'll have to take your word on that.

Dempsey

CSF wrote: »

I didn't mention bias or favouritism either you'll note. Also I saw no implication from you that Celtic are also beneficiaries of the choking, so I'll have to take your word on that.

Why dont you try reading the thread instead of trying to stir shíte?

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

Have Celtic ever had a player from Nicaragua play for their senior team.EXPLAIN.What are the reasons for this?

Who cares if Rangers are selective based on ethnicity with who they sign? We don't moan when Bilbao do it. It is admired then.

I didn't mention bias or favouritism either you'll note. Also I saw no implication from you that Celtic are also beneficiaries of the choking, so I'll have to take your word on that.

Admired by who?? I dont admire Bilbao. I dont admire rangers. I think both clubs should be despised in fact.Your arguement about a Nicaraguan is ridiculous. An Irish senior squad player is at every club in the SPL. Except ra PEEEEPle. Why is this?Why has this always been the case??

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

Have Celtic ever had a player from Nicaragua play for their senior team.EXPLAIN.What are the reasons for this?

Who cares if Rangers are selective based on ethnicity with who they sign? We don't moan when Bilbao do it. It is admired then.

I didn't mention bias or favouritism either you'll note. Also I saw no implication from you that Celtic are also beneficiaries of the choking, so I'll have to take your word on that.

OK so -this is boards.ie-an Irish site obviously.Heres my question to you-Why would any Irish father encourage their kids to support glasgow rangers, when all they do is spout vile abuse about Irish people. O'Shea was booed at Ibrox the other night just coz hes Irish. No Irish player has ever played senior football with ye.(truly astonishing when you consider the amount of Irish players at British clubs.)Give me one reason why I should encourage my daughter to support glasgow rangers. Go ahead.

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Admired by who?? I dont admire Bilbao. I dont admire rangers. I think both clubs should be despised in fact.Your arguement about a Nicaraguan is ridiculous. An Irish senior squad player is at every club in the SPL. Except ra PEEEEPle. Why is this?Why has this always been the case??

My argument about a Nicaraguan was in fact a joke. And I think you'll find Bilbao's system is admired. I couldn't give a fiddlers about it, or Ranger's, clubs can sign who they want. They seem to be doing ok in the SPL without any Irish in the team.

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

OK so -this is boards.ie-an Irish site obviously.Heres my question to you-Why would any Irish father encourage their kids to support glasgow rangers, when all they do is spout vile abuse about Irish people. O'Shea was booed at Ibrox the other night just coz hes Irish. No Irish player has ever played senior football with ye.(truly astonishing when you consider the amount of Irish players at British clubs.)Give me one reason why I should encourage my daughter to support glasgow rangers. Go ahead.

There is no reason why you should. To the best of my knowledge, you and your daughter aren't from Glasgow. If you ask me for a reason why you should encourage your daughter to support Chesterfield, I won't be able to give you one either.

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

There is no reason why you should. To the best of my knowledge, you and your daughter aren't from Glasgow. If you ask me for a reason why you should encourage your daughter to support Chesterfield, I won't be able to give you one either.

A youre copping out. Glasgow rangers-Whats to like? You couldnt even give 1 reason.:D

CSF

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

A youre copping out. Glasgow rangers-Whats to like? You couldnt even give 1 reason.:D

But I don't support Rangers. Why would I be in a position to boast their wonders? Again, if you ask me the same about most teams I won't be able to. I'm pretty neutral towards Rangers. Couldn't care less.

Dempsey

CSF wrote: »

My argument about a Nicaraguan was in fact a joke. And I think you'll find Bilbao's system is admired. I couldn't give a fiddlers about it, or Ranger's, clubs can sign who they want. They seem to be doing ok in the SPL without any Irish in the team.

Admired and criticised in equal measure. Also the system has been relaxed as they have signed and played players that have no Basque ancestry. You probably didnt know that, did you?

I'd question your defence of bigoted transfer policies but then again, you are just looking for a quick **** stir before bed.

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

There is no reason why you should. To the best of my knowledge, you and your daughter aren't from Glasgow. If you ask me for a reason why you should encourage your daughter to support Chesterfield, I won't be able to give you one either.

Ive cousins in Glasgow. Celtic were founded originally to support the poor Irish who had emigrated.(forcefully by British opressors.)I think Ive good enough reason to support em over Chesterfield.:D

PARKHEAD67

CSF wrote: »

But I don't support Rangers. Why would I be in a position to boast their wonders? Again, if you ask me the same about most teams I won't be able to. I'm pretty neutral towards Rangers. Couldn't care less.

Who do you support so?

Broxi_Bear_Eire

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

He kept saying Mr. Murphy. I know your not thick eirebear.Dont insult our intelligence.

Doh he said "Mr Murphy" once

Broxi_Bear_Eire

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

OK so -this is boards.ie-an Irish site obviously.Heres my question to you-Why would any Irish father encourage their kids to support glasgow rangers, when all they do is spout vile abuse about Irish people. O'Shea was booed at Ibrox the other night just coz hes Irish. No Irish player has ever played senior football with ye.(truly astonishing when you consider the amount of Irish players at British clubs.)Give me one reason why I should encourage my daughter to support glasgow rangers. Go ahead.

Oh Where to start I don't think anyone will deny the black period of Rangers history but if people like your good self wish to remain rooted n the past thats your problem some of us have moved on. OShea got a lot less booing than Rooney the other night in fact it was a murmur compared to his. I will ask you as I have asked others how do you know O'Shea was not getting booed because of what happened to Rangers players when they played in Dublin for their International side against Ireland or was hat just for the craic

Can you also imagine how hard it must be for a young footballer to from here to go to rangers Just as or look up how Alan Maybury got on and thats only one case.
As I said Rangers are moving forward we have or certainly till recently had Alan Kernaghan as our youth coach, we also have young Irish U19's goalkeeper Alan Smith a young man reckoned to be a top prospect by those at the club. But as I said you carry on living in the past the rest of us will get on with life