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Whos going Over the border for Christmas Shopping? to avoid being ripped off

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  • 22-11-2010 11:28pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    Whos is going to Newry, Belfast, over the Border to go Shopping? To avoid being ripped off? because if you shop Anywhere in the Republic your Paying outreagous prices for the Same thing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    might do...im smashed so i am..where's the best place to go?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    might do...im smashed so i am..where's the best place to go?

    The Buttercrane Shopping centre in Newry is Very Good Appearntly.
    Link

    Also they have a Dunnes stores up there, it would be intresting To see the price difference Pound vs Euro

    Great Shops In that shopping centre, Northern ireland is Great for shopping, Same shops for the Cheapest prices ever Compared to here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭FREDNISMO


    done so already, saved 25euro approx on one item alone 33 stg or 65euro down south going back next week to do the rest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    the only people who would save any significant money up north are alcoholics, and technophobes who don't know how to buy online


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    the only people who would save any significant money up north are alcoholics, and technophobes who don't know how to buy online


    Oh yeah, I forgot.
    The only people who would be purchasing large volumes of alcohol, for christmas parties etc, would be alcoholics, and dipso's.

    (of all the ridiculous posts I've read on boards, this its right up there with the most stupid. Ever!)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,888 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    the prices in the south are now way more competitive than last year, due to the shops in the south getting their act into gear and a weaker euro/ stronger sterling.

    About the only thing thats really out of kilter is spirit prices, but even then, thanks to the below cost selling now being allowed in the republic, you can still pick up a deal if you keep your eyes open in Dunnes or Tesco.

    And beer is as cheap in the south nowadays.
    i.e. becks 15pack is 9 pounds in sainsburys in UK (5pound off) which is €10.50.
    In Tesco in Wilton Cork I saw the same thing for 10Euro.
    50c Cheaper in the south
    And you arent spending a day trying to get PAID parking in newry nor the cost of petrol to get there any back.
    (Tesco got stung with all the cross border shopping last year, so are importing now directly from the UK and reducing their prices across the board in the Republic.)

    Not to mention that the exchange rate is gone back to a stronger sterling.
    At its height 1euro was almost 1pound
    Now its 1 euro is 85p.
    That means that at a stroke everything in the north is 15% dearer than it was a year ago for people from the euro land!!

    To be fair, the case for shopping up north is far less strong this year than only 12 months ago.


    EDIT:
    here is an informative post on bargain alerts on the differences.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69164126&postcount=3665

    ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Going up to get my car serviced (timing belt) was charged 600 euros last time here, getting it for 300 euros up north, going to get santa out of the way up there also.

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭spyderski


    Agree with Munchkin 100% - I spend a lot of time up North, and would have done a lot of our family shopping up there for the past few years. These days, however, the price difference is a LOT less. General food prices are the same.

    Beer prices are at least the same, and depending on special offers sometimes cheaper in the South (note different bottle/can sizes too 440ML vs. 500ML Etc.) Wine & spirits are cheaper up North.

    Stuff like Toiletries, over the counter medicines (paracetamol Etc.) are still way cheaper in the North.

    Toilet roll, Kitchen roll etc cheaper in the South.

    Overall, it's not worth your while unless you live very near the border or are going North anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    I pop over the border to Germany to get stuff done to my car, the labour rates a little bit lower than Holland but the Germans in general are much better at the work do exactly what their supposed to do.

    I used to buy beer but it was a balls getting them back to germany for the Deposit refund :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    I used to go up for my wine and beer, but now I get my beer here for a Euro a can and decent vino for around €5.

    I make my own wine now and it works out at around €1.50 per bottle corked.
    The Republic has become far cheaper for general groceries lately so I don't think
    the north is a viable option any more, apart from santa items or car servicing as
    some others have said.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    Just for everyonre to undersatnd their costs.

    The official euro to sterling rate is 1.181 euro to £1 sterling

    The rate you will get on credit / laser cards or buying cash from the bank will be 1.21 minimum.

    So £10 = €12.10 Not 11.50 as some will make you believe.

    Generally toys will not be cheaper, groceries will not be cheaper, spirits might be a euro cheaper if you're in the right shop with the right special offer.

    Clothes from the UK multiples like debenhams, monsoon, dune and others who have NEVER changed their policy will be cheaper, as will boots own brand rubbish (1.60 exchange rate) But that's about it.

    ALL pricing can be checked online from the various stores. - Use the internet, do the checks your self and don;t belive the rubbish many write about here. And use the REAL exchange rate of €1.21 / £1 (basically add 21% to sterling prices to see your cost in euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I am going to Lisburn/Belfast. I wouldn't spend a penny in Newry as it is purposely dearer than the rest of NI in order to con the Dubs that drive up the M1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭blue.jester


    I dunno about the prices getting closer, I don't think the stores down here have copped on at all. Last week I did a "big" shop in Tesco's in Clarehall, buying the essentials and even then it was store brand stuff, and it came to 180 euro. The trolley was half full and had no meat or drink in it. The month before I was up in Sainsburys Newry and did a "big" shop, costing me 120 euro and the trolley was over flowing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    I dunno about the prices getting closer, I don't think the stores down here have copped on at all. Last week I did a "big" shop in Tesco's in Clarehall, buying the essentials and even then it was store brand stuff, and it came to 180 euro. The trolley was half full and had no meat or drink in it. The month before I was up in Sainsburys Newry and did a "big" shop, costing me 120 euro and the trolley was over flowing.

    Should go to lidl, big shop + beer and wine €90-€110 and the trolley is busting at that..


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samina


    the likes of choccies dvds games etc are cheaper here or online but apart from that, i compare prices online before i go so i know what im getting up there and what ill get here. like most people its a tight christmas for us this year so i have to save where i can, ill be getting some toys, gifts, christmas decorations, clothes and shoes and food up in belfast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    With impending reductions in minimum/all wages accross the board to come into line with the North/rest of Europe, the cost of doing business here should drop and all businesses should become more competitive with fellow EU countries so goods should become cheaper which is what everyone wants, of course we will all be paid less so it will make no difference.

    For years i have been listening to people complain about the high price of goods here compared to the North, yet most did not accept that we were paid more here than many other "low cost" countries, now as wages are reduced to improve competitiveness we will see how people in other countries live.


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭FREDNISMO


    the only people who would save any significant money up north are alcoholics, and technophobes who don't know how to buy online
    Most the people I know who do their shopping in the north are decent hardworking people trying to provide for their families as reasonably as possible, dont get where your coming from with your alco/tech theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭DundalkDuffman


    I used to buy beer but it was a balls getting them back to germany for the Deposit refund :)
    Otherwise it would be very pfand-y to get them there ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Otherwise it would be very pfand-y to get them there ;)

    Yup, in Nederlands its Statiegeld


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Haddockman wrote: »
    I am going to Lisburn/Belfast. I wouldn't spend a penny in Newry as it is purposely dearer than the rest of NI in order to con the Dubs that drive up the M1.

    Indeed.

    It's remarkable how many people do not cop this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Gucky wrote: »
    The only people who would be purchasing large volumes of alcohol, for christmas parties etc, would be alcoholics, and dipso's.

    (of all the ridiculous posts I've read on boards, this its right up there with the most stupid. Ever!)
    FREDNISMO wrote: »
    Most the people I know who do their shopping in the north are decent hardworking people trying to provide for their families as reasonably as possible, dont get where your coming from with your alco/tech theory.
    I seriously don't think the alco comment was meant to be offensive, just a way of saying people buying huge amounts of booze for whatever reason.

    It is a good point, I buy most expensive stuff online and it is cheaper than a bricks n' mortar UK shop, and though I am a very heavy drinker I have yet to consider going up north, the savings are not worth my while. Drink is cheap enough.
    Tesco's in Clarehall, buying the essentials and even then it was store brand stuff, and it came to 180 euro. The trolley was half full and had no meat or drink in it. The month before I was up in Sainsburys Newry and did a "big" shop, costing me 120 euro and the trolley was over flowing.
    I am not sure of the actual savings here as they were different amounts. I would want to save €100-150 to make it worth the hassle. The way I look at it is to question what if my neighbour popped in and said to me "I will pay you €100 to head up north on saturday and get my groceries -BUT you are not allowed buy anything for yourself" because in effect this is what is happening, I doubt I would give up my saturday and spend time & travel costs & stress to do it, I live right next to a tesco so the convenience outweighs the hassle for me.

    If I had a wife and 5 kids it might be worthwhile, you just have to be honest with yourself about the actual savings. I mentioned before about a lad in work who is not fussy about beer and never pays over a €1 a bottle here, he went up north got cheap beer he never heard of before and found it in an offie here for ~€2 and convinced himself he saved a fortune...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    "I am not sure of the actual savings here as they were different amounts. I would want to save €100-150 to make it worth the hassle. The way I look at it is to question what if my neighbour popped in and said to me "I will pay you €100 to head up north on saturday and get my groceries -BUT you are not allowed buy anything for yourself" because in effect this is what is happening, I doubt I would give up my saturday and spend time & travel costs & stress to do it, I live right next to a tesco so the convenience outweighs the hassle for me."

    that is a very interesting analogy, not many people would think of it in those terms.

    i could never understand why people would give up a day to trvel hours to do grocery shopping in the north. when you add up the costs it rarely made sense.

    when you put it in the above terms , how much would you want to give up your saturday to do your neighbours shopping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Bettyb00


    OK OK
    Ireland is in the sh**ts at the moment and you want to go and spend all your money in the north.
    So how much do you think your are going to save once you have taken the time to travel and sit in traffic and the cost of petrol parking and lunches.
    The euro is not strong against the pound, you will probably find yourself spending about 400 on food anything that has a sell by date of next year loads of alcohol frozen food.
    Xmas Presents - so if anything goes wrong u'll need to take another trip up to get it sorted with receipts again car petrol lunches
    Look retailers aren't doing this on purpose to rip you off the cost of living up the north is much cheaper and wages are lower.
    But considering all the time, money and effort put into going up north.
    you could all that time money and effort, if you just would shop down the road, and keep Irish people in business and jobs.
    Nollaig shona dhuit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Bettyb00


    Here here shelflife


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samina


    Bettyb00 wrote: »
    OK OK
    Ireland is in the sh**ts at the moment and you want to go and spend all your money in the north.
    So how much do you think your are going to save once you have taken the time to travel and sit in traffic and the cost of petrol parking and lunches.
    The euro is not strong against the pound, you will probably find yourself spending about 400 on food anything that has a sell by date of next year loads of alcohol frozen food.
    Xmas Presents - so if anything goes wrong u'll need to take another trip up to get it sorted with receipts again car petrol lunches
    Look retailers aren't doing this on purpose to rip you off the cost of living up the north is much cheaper and wages are lower.
    But considering all the time, money and effort put into going up north.
    you could all that time money and effort, if you just would shop down the road, and keep Irish people in business and jobs.
    Nollaig shona dhuit

    petrol would be about 30 quid not much compared to the savings if you shop right less if you are car pooling and spliting petrol. if not ive never spent more than 1 pound on a bottle of coke or fanta ill save lots on washing powder, shampoo, soap, parcetemols, christmas decorations in the pound shop where things are a pound and not 2 euro and thats my petrol paid for before i even start on my food, gifts, toys etc.

    retailers may not be doing it purposely to rip us off but i have very little money and want to give my family the best christmas i can manage. if this means shopping up north its what im prepared to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Bettyb00


    ok fair enough, car poll, where does the shopping go?


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samina


    two people in front shopping in the boot and back of the car


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Bettyb00


    Ok Fine; off you go to the north and do your Christmas Shopping with your bottle of coke, I am sorry that I just think we are ruining people livelyhoods over a couple of euros that's all....


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭samina


    eh ok then, but if it was just a couple of euros i wouldnt be going

    besides ive said what i can get reasonable down here i will get it, retailers show me value for money i give them my money!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    I cannot understand why at a time when all businesses are trying to compete with other countries, the Government has decided to increase VAT. the UK is increasing VAT in January and this would have narrowed the gap in prices.


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