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Disrespect of the gardai

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  • #102
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why don't you grow up and stop being such a gimp


    But being a gimp is one of my favourite things to be, i dont wanna stop, i will protest for my right to be a gimp:rolleyes:


  • #103
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Protesters storming the gate inflamed the situation, why couldn't they protest outside?

    They should have and i think that was the plan you can hear people shouting "don't, don't" when they were at the gates but there will always be a few idiots in a group. Peoples emotions are running high and some idiots got over zealous


  • #104
    IK09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭IK09


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Nope. I just think it's funny the way your complaints were at first about all the Gardai, then it was about this one Garda, then it was about Gardai drinking your tea and not getting the boys in the crime lab to run DNA analysis on fibres found in your car when someone broke in to it.



    I didnt see any other garda try to stop the garda that had gone berserk. Ok il accept your point that it was firstly about all gardai and it has now seemed to change to one garda, but it was similar to the unnecessary force used when an middle aged man stood infront of the ministers car. If you call refusing to move when a garda tells you to a "violent" protest then we might aswell just stop the conversation here.


  • #105
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Sharkey 10 wrote: »
    Because the wanted to protest inside


    Well ''the'' was wrong


  • #106
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Protesters storming the gate inflamed the situation, why couldn't they protest outside?

    Storming? They walked through the poxy thing.


  • #107
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    IK09 wrote: »
    If you call refusing to move when a garda tells you to a "violent" protest then we might aswell just stop the conversation here.

    Where did you see me talking about that man? Nowhere. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.

    Are you still claiming that the guys rushing the gates were engaged in a peaceful protest?


  • #108
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why don't you grow up and stop being such a gimp

    Banned.


  • #109
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Nodin wrote: »
    Storming? They walked through the poxy thing.

    And what exactly do you think there intentions were when they got inside?

    To sit down and have a "peaceful" chat with some politicians?

    I call bullshít


  • #110
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Where did you see me talking about that man? Nowhere. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.

    Are you still claiming that the guys rushing the gates were engaged in a peaceful protest?

    It was hardly violent. And "rushing" is taking the piss. It was like the exodus from a bingo hall.


  • #111
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Why don't you grow up and stop being such a gimp

    maby you should practise what you preach.


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  • #112
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Nodin wrote: »
    It was hardly violent. And "rushing" is taking the piss. It was like the exodus from a bingo hall.

    I didn't say it was violent. But they can't claim they were being peaceful either.

    Perhaps rush is too strong a word alright.


  • #113
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    And what exactly do you think there intentions were when they got inside?

    To sit down and have a "peaceful" chat with some politicians?

    I call bullshít

    I concur


  • #114
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    IK09 wrote: »
    Hello,

    I am disgusted by the level of disrespect shown by the gardai to Irish civilians during protests.

    They were well able to catch a cold when it was theyre wages that would be cut
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0S_TT5GAvo&feature=player_embedded

    I felt like ripping the head off this scumbag garda


    Those rioters could have been shot.. In most other countries they would have been.

    Fair play to AGS.


  • #115
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    And what exactly do you think there intentions were when they got inside?

    A lot of shouting.
    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    To sit down and have a "peaceful" chat with some politicians?

    As above. O'Snodaigh was with them, so it was hardly going to end in violence. Apart from the one Garda, who evidently went berserk.


  • #116
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Can I ask a question: If you're on the ground of government buildings without permission, does that count as trespassing?


  • #117
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    And what exactly do you think there intentions were when they got inside?

    To sit down and have a "peaceful" chat with some politicians?

    I call bullshít

    They had plenty of time to make a dash for the building which they didn't. I don't even think they had an intention of going in the first place. Since the gate was open, they just made there way in. Once inside the gate, it looked like they didn't know where to go so just stopped there.


  • #118
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Nodin wrote: »
    A lot of shouting.


    As above. O'Snodaigh was with them, so it was hardly going to end in violence. Apart from the one Garda, who evidently went berserk.

    O'Snodaigh did look fairly in control of things alright, didnt he?;)


  • #119
    IK09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭IK09


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Well ''the'' was wrong

    Well i think that firmly shuts the door on this thread


  • #120
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    What always makes me smirk is the way these things turn out.


    " A few hotheads got out of control"

    Remember the last protest to Leinster House.. what was the result?

    "A few hotheads got out of control"

    same old, same old,,, what is needed is that the ringleaders with the Shinner placards are isolated and the ringleaders who as I saw from the vid, had O'Snodaigh in full voice, should have been wearing full upper and lower dentures today and on a diet of soup for a week or two.


    That's what i would have ensured if i was one of those cops being abused and taken advantage of.


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  • #121
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    msg11 wrote: »
    Once inside the gate, it looked like they didn't know where to go so just stopped there.

    But when they were ordered to leave why didn't they do that?


  • #122
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Nodin wrote: »
    A lot of shouting.

    Oh yea, I forgot how good shouting was at solving a nations crisis.

    Touché sir. Well played


  • #123
    jimthemental
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    Not a fan of the Gardaí but I wouldn't really say there was much to complain about so far in the protests. Most of those who got a thump deserved it. There was one or two fairly excited ones but it's not like they've even badly injured anyone, the worst I saw has been someone knocked out in one video.


  • #124
    parsi
    Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    Eden Cuddly Retirement wrote: »
    Those rioters could have been shot.. In most other countries they would have been.

    Don't be so melodramatic.


  • #125
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Can I ask a question: If you're on the ground of government buildings without permission, does that count as trespassing?

    More than likely. Remedied by the offenders being shoved off the premises and arresting the loudest mouths should they start anything. Its hardly 'wade in with the baton' time as one of the gardai seemed to think.


  • #126
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    msg11 wrote: »
    They had plenty of time to make a dash for the building which they didn't. I don't even think they had an intention of going in the first place. Since the gate was open, they just made there way in. Once inside the gate, it looked like they didn't know where to go so just stopped there.

    Thats exactly the way I saw it, they didnt know what do when inside and then Garda B 334 started pushing people and swinging his baton


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  • #127
    Bosco boy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Thats the thing you might get a baton to the head or kicked on the ground just for "not being happy with the goverment" so wear some protective gear - I'm going in a padded t-shirt, knee and elbow pads, scrum cap and balaclava.

    What about your balls!! They always go for the balls!!!


  • #128
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    parsi wrote: »
    Don't be so melodramatic.

    I'm not being, believe it or not!.


  • #129
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Oh yea, I forgot how good shouting was at solving a nations crisis.

    Touché sir. Well played

    Its considerably more useful than clatters with a steel baton, in current circumstances.


  • #130
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    Thats exactly the way I saw it, they didnt know what do when inside and then Garda B 334 started pushing people and swinging his baton

    Is there a longer video or are you going off the same clip that's posted in this thread?
    Nodin wrote: »
    More than likely. Remedied by the offenders being shoved off the premises and arresting the loudest mouths should they start anything. Its hardly 'wade in with the baton' time as one of the gardai seemed to think.

    No I wasn't there and I've only seen that BBC news clip where the struggle is already underway. But I'm guessing that they would have been given the order to leave before yer man started swinging.


  • #131
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nodin wrote: »
    More than likely. Remedied by the offenders being shoved off the premises and arresting the loudest mouths should they start anything. Its hardly 'wade in with the baton' time as one of the gardai seemed to think.

    AGS are the first line of defence there, you really don't want to raise it to the second & last line of defence.


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  • #132
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Eden Cuddly Retirement wrote: »
    Those rioters could have been shot.. In most other countries they would have been.

    Fair play to AGS.

    We are not most other countries though, we are quite layed back in this place. So too start opening fire on a group of unarmed protesters is very much over the top. If they were to open fire, there would be alot of questions to answer too. Considering the force themselves are unarmed, to go shooting members of the public is a ridiculous statement to make.


  • #133
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    Thats exactly the way I saw it, they didnt know what do when inside and then Garda B 334 started pushing people and swinging his baton

    Does quoting his badge number make you feel important or like you know more on the topic? Or were you hoping someone here might report him?

    Relevance to quoting badge number = none


  • #134
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    No I wasn't there and I've only seen that BBC news clip where the struggle is already underway. But I'm guessing that they would have been given the order to leave before yer man started swinging.

    ....I'd hate to be in a pub after you shout 'last orders'.....


  • #135
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Nodin wrote: »
    Its considerably more useful than clatters with a steel baton, in current circumstances.

    Apparently not.

    Shouting has solved nothing, hitting that man with the bat did.


  • #136
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    What about your balls!! They always go for the balls!!!

    ya but only real men have those !


  • #137
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    But when they were ordered to leave why didn't they do that?

    Well, one reason I can think of is because others had started to follow in. So your stuck in a jam. First in , last out and all that.


  • #138
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Nodin wrote: »
    More than likely. Remedied by the offenders being shoved off the premises and arresting the loudest mouths should they start anything. Its hardly 'wade in with the baton' time as one of the gardai seemed to think.


    Unfortunately the loudest mouths tend to be only heard after the event.;)


  • #139
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Apparently not.

    Shouting has solved nothing, hitting that man with the bat did.

    Well I'm glad we now know the kind of country you want to live in.


  • #140
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    msg11 wrote: »
    Considering the force themselves are unarmed, to go shooting members of the public is a ridiculous statement to make.


    Seriously, "a ridiculous statement to make".. Do you know how well defended Government Buildings are?.


  • #141
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Remember Robocop who interrupted his dinner, forgot his uniform and ran out to do his duty and whack shyte out of a few hippy students ?

    Heard somewhere he's policing Bohs matches now.

    Promotion I guess :D


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  • #142
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    Thats exactly the way I saw it, they didnt know what do when inside and then Garda B 334 started pushing people and swinging his baton

    why are you stating his reg number ?


  • #143
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....I'd hate to be in a pub after you shout 'last orders'.....

    Fortunately failing to follow an order to disperse from a barman isn't an offence. ;)
    msg11 wrote: »
    Well, one reason I can think of is because others had started to follow in. So your stuck in a jam. First in , last out and all that.

    It doesn't look like those lads up the front are making any attempt to go back out the gate at all now does it?


  • #144
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Eden Cuddly Retirement wrote: »
    Seriously, "a ridiculous statement to make".. Do you know how well defended Government Buildings are?.

    No, but I know they leave the gates open. Look, I am not getting on your case. I think it's just a bit OTT to start shooting people. That's all my point is.


  • #145
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    hondasam wrote: »
    why are you stating his reg number ?

    it kind of helps when they have one


  • #146
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Does quoting his badge number make you feel important or like you know more on the topic? Or were you hoping someone here might report him?

    Relevance to quoting badge number = none

    I'm sure he has already been reported, it's Garda like him who bring down the good work of others


  • #147
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    msg11 wrote: »
    No, but I know they leave the gates open. Look, I am not getting on your case. I think it's just a bit OTT to start shooting people. That's all my point is.


    First off the gates are NEVER left open at Government Buildings. At Leinster House the gate is left half open.

    And I too believe its way OTT to start shooting people.

    But people should not be fooled into thinking Government Buildings and Leinster House are soft targets either.


  • #148
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Pal wrote: »
    it kind of helps when they have one


    helps who exactly ?


  • #149
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Nodin wrote: »
    Well I'm glad we now know the kind of country you want to live in.

    I have not approved nor condoned what he did.

    Merely stating that using his bat has shown more results than people shouting.


  • #150
    parsi
    Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    Eden Cuddly Retirement wrote: »
    AGS are the first line of defence there, you really don't want to raise it to the second & last line of defence.

    I can imagine it now:

    "Hey Soldier - take aim"
    "Wha' ?"
    "Take aim , damn ya"
    "Take wha' ? I can't hear you with my ear defenders..."


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  • #151
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    hondasam wrote: »
    helps who exactly ?
    the general public


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