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UK FreeviewHD TV's have mpeg4

  • 23-11-2010 9:07pm
    #1
    tommee
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭


    I was up in Curry's Sprucefield yesterday Monday-
    panasonic tv's have built in freesat and freeview hd-
    sales guy checked on freeview site for me-
    seems freeview HD works on mpeg4;
    so they can work with Irish digital?
    32 inch lcd panasonic cost 499 sterling
    42 inch plasma panasonic costs 699 gbp
    Can anyone confirm these tv's will work with the republics digital service?


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  • #2
    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    tommee wrote: »
    I was up in Curry's Sprucefield yesterday Monday-
    panasonic tv's have built in freesat and freeview hd-
    sales guy checked on freeview site for me-
    seems freeview HD works on mpeg4;
    so they can work with Irish digital?
    32 inch lcd panasonic cost 499 sterling
    42 inch plasma panasonic costs 699 gbp
    Can anyone confirm these tv's will work with the republics digital service?

    If they are Freeview HD then they are DVB-T2 so yes, they are good for Irish DTT.


  • #3
    tommee
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭tommee


    many thanks for that;


  • #4
    Willby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭Willby


    tommee wrote: »
    I was up in Curry's Sprucefield yesterday Monday-
    panasonic tv's have built in freesat and freeview hd-
    sales guy checked on freeview site for me-
    seems freeview HD works on mpeg4;
    so they can work with Irish digital?
    32 inch lcd panasonic cost 499 sterling
    42 inch plasma panasonic costs 699 gbp
    Can anyone confirm these tv's will work with the republics digital service?

    Hi,
    Recently purchased Samsung FreeviewHD tv from Curry's in Dublin and can confirm that it works perfectly with Saorview(IrishDTT) and it also has MHEG5 which means digital txt from RTE also available.
    Actually if you visit the "Terrestial" board you will get an up to date listing of tv's which will receive Saorview.


  • #5
    jc84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭jc84


    are there no tv's specifically for irish freeview, why do they bother selling UK freeview tv's over here


  • #6
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    jc84 wrote: »
    are there no tv's specifically for irish freeview, why do they bother selling UK freeview tv's over here

    Walker products are the only Saorview certified products at the moment, other manufacturers will appear in due course.

    Freeview TVs are sold here as basic analogue TVs that happen to have a freeview digital tuner built in. Some freeview TVs also include an MPEG-4 decoder which is capable of receiving Irish DTT.


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  • #7
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Compatible
    Saorview and "Freeview HD" TV, but NOT "Full HD" or "HD Ready" "Freeview" TVs.
    http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/saorview-reception/

    jc84 wrote: »
    are there no tv's specifically for irish freeview, why do they bother selling UK freeview tv's over here

    partially ignorance, partially "product dumping" and partially Digital took so long coming.. When Irish tests started the UK "Freeview HD" didn't exist.

    Now with more UK areas getting Terrestrial HD, they need to sell "Freeview HD" sets and the "Full HD" or "HD Ready" "Freeview" TVs are nearly worthless now as much lower % in UK uses Virgin/Sky than Irish use UPC/Sky for TV and such TVs now will never receive HD via aerial socket in UK, even if they have MPEG4.


  • #8
    BArra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    do all "Freeview HD" tvs have MHEG5 built in?

    i have a Samsung LE46C750 3D tv, but i am unable to test saorview as i have no aerial on the roof at the moment

    i know it has MPEG4..

    but im trying to decifer if i have a fully compatible tv


  • #9
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    BArra wrote: »
    do all "Freeview HD" tvs have MHEG5 built in?

    i have a Samsung LE46C750 3D tv, but i am unable to test saorview as i have no aerial on the roof at the moment

    i know it has MPEG4..

    but im trying to decifer if i have a fully compatible tv

    MHEG-5 is part of the Freeview-HD specification.


  • #10
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    tommee wrote: »
    I was up in Curry's Sprucefield yesterday Monday-
    panasonic tv's have built in freesat and freeview hd-
    sales guy checked on freeview site for me-
    seems freeview HD works on mpeg4;
    so they can work with Irish digital?
    32 inch lcd panasonic cost 499 sterling
    42 inch plasma panasonic costs 699 gbp
    Can anyone confirm these tv's will work with the republics digital service?

    The V10s, G10s, G15s = NO. have MPEG4 alright but diasbled in firmware to only open MPEg2 broadcasts.

    Same with older series PZ81 and LZD81s - NO.


  • #11
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    STB wrote: »
    The V10s, G10s, G15s = NO. have MPEG4 alright but diasbled in firmware to only open MPEg2 broadcasts.

    Same with older series PZ81 and LZD81s - NO.

    Why would they disable it?


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  • #12
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    To save licence royalty costs in some markets.

    Tiny amount of saving.


  • #13
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    Why would they disable it?

    They are saying to stick rigidly to UK DBook. IE they didnt define anything other than MPEG2 in the firmware for dvb-t despite the MPEG4 H264 processor being on board to help decode the HD broadcasts off the Freesat Tuner. It has caused havoc for those that bought a HD Freesat/DVB-T Combo TV over here. And they did recive it until RTE put up the proper service flag. It means that since RTE NL rightly broadcast a flag that says I am an MPEG4 broadcast that these TVs ignore the stations in a scan because it thinks its an MPEG2 TV despite its MPEG4 processor. Panasonic refuse to fix saying that they TV shouldnt have been bought here that it is for the Uk market. They can maintain that they diud nothing wrong - some might say that the reality is that they short circuited ETSI standards.

    LG nor Sony felt the need to do it, their combos work. They stuck to ETSI standards, not UK Dbook.

    And its not the only thing Panasonic disabled in the firmware on the G10/15/v10 models in particular.

    Some guy discovered that you could edit the capabilities by using the inbuilt hex editor (yes a built in hex editor in a TV!) which changed the Combo Tv to a European Model allowing calibration and gamma adjustment etc.


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