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    #62
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    You're making claims which rely on God not existing (like claiming there are falsehoods, etc). IF you're going to make that kind of claim, you'll need to support it. Which you NEVER did. And then you talked about burden of proof to make things worse.
    You're assuming that he made that post, and that we're not all just figments of your imagination toying with you as you drool in the corner of your cage on the alien world of MTifasdf*erwEAfrcx'8asdfae8.


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    #63
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    That'd be a great argument only it's for a point I never made. I never said anything like not talking about God whatsoever.
    You didn't make a point at all if we are getting picky. You asked a question. "Why do atheists talk about god" I answered it. "because god=religion to many people and religion has a huge effect on the world". Really, if people are going to have to explain your own posts to you and then repeat their own answers every post this is going to take a really, really long time and will go nowhere productive.
    Yet you'd like to think they're one of the same, factually.

    Yes I believe they are the same in terms of them both being, for all intents and purposes unfalsifiable but having no meaningful supporting evidence. I outlined the difference in why one would be talked about but the other wouldn't. Re-read my previous post for the difference.


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    #64
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    mikhail wrote: »
    You're assuming that he made that post, and that we're not all just figments of your imagination toying with you as you drool in the corner of your cage on the alien world of MTifasdf*erwEAfrcx'8asdfae8.

    See, I never made the claim that you're making now. Talk about missing the point.
    strobe wrote:
    You didn't make an argument at all if we are getting picky. You asked a question.
    Well it seems that you want to get picky regardless, and if you are, at least get it right. I asked multiple questions. See in the title... I used the plural, multiple questions in the opening post too.


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    #65
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    You're making claims which rely on God not existing (like claiming there are falsehoods, etc). IF you're going to make that kind of claim, you'll need to support it. Which you NEVER did. And then you talked about burden of proof to make things worse.

    Ok, I'll keep this simple: Prove that unicorns don't exist.

    If you cannot do this RIGHT NOW, then you are absolutely wrong to ever behave as if unicorns do not exist.


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    #66
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    Zillah wrote: »
    Ok, I'll keep this simple: Prove that unicorns don't exist.

    If you cannot do this RIGHT NOW, then you are absolutely wrong to ever behave as if unicorns do not exist.

    I do not make claims like "unicorns are a falsehood" or unicorns don't exist. They might exist, but I think that the probability of this is rather low.


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    #67
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    See, I never made the claim that you're making now. Talk about missing the point. Well it seems that you want to get picky regardless, and if you are, at least get it right. I asked multiple questions. See in the title... I used the plural, multiple questions in the opening post too.

    .....and I addressed them all. You made the claim that the reason atheists talk about god is because they secretly believe in him, at least that was your implication. You have been corrected many times over by many different people in regards to that. We have explained why we would be inclined to talk about god/religion. Do you have any specific questions or statements to make on our actual replies or would you prefer to continue employing the classic "nanananana I can't hear you" debating technique?


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    #68
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    I do not make claims like "unicorns are a falsehood" or unicorns don't exist. They might exist, but I think that the probability of this is rather low.

    Ok, I'll try to break this down another tier for you:

    Earlier I mentioned Alien-Lizards. They live inside people's brains and telepathically send messages to each other and secretly control the world.

    Do you believe in these Alien-Lizards?


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    #69
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Sebastian, don't be so upset that people disagree with you.


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    #70
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    strobe wrote: »
    .....and I addressed them all.

    ...and you like stating the obvious too. You guys should all form a group or something.


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    #71
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    I do not make claims like "unicorns are a falsehood" or unicorns don't exist. They might exist, but I think that the probability of this is rather low.

    So you are agnostic where unicorns are concerned.


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    #72
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    ...and you like stating the obvious too. You guys should all form a group or something.

    We already have several. You keep stating the obvious! Jeez.


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    #73
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    I do not make claims like "unicorns are a falsehood" or unicorns don't exist. They might exist, but I think that the probability of this is rather low.

    Hurrah!
    You now understand atheism.
    Congratulations.


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    #74
    Ickle Magoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    You guys should all form a group or something.

    What, loike, a forum for religious skeptics? :pac:

    Best evidence for the lack of a god is the fact that even the most fervent theist can't put forward any more evidence for their god than the scottish tourist board can for Nessie.


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    #75
    fudgez
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭fudgez


    I think the OP (trolly trollly troll) has been fed enough for one night lads and propose we answer the rest of his questions with sandwich recipes so he can learn to eat people food :)

    Ham and Cheese


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    #76
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    I do not make claims like "unicorns are a falsehood" or unicorns don't exist. They might exist, but I think that the probability of this is rather low.

    So you are a unicorn agnostic atheist? Well we are god agnostic atheists.

    If 90%+ of the primary schools in this country were controlled by people that believed in unicorns, and the belief in unicorns and a moral system derived from a book written thousands of years ago by a tribe of people who thought unicorns were in watching their every move and therefore they should guess what the unicorns wanted them to do and do those things was thought to those children......

    If people were murdering each other because they thought the green unicorns hated people that worshiped the pink unicorns......

    If the some of the most powerful men in the world who controlled the largest militaries in the world openly admitted they wished to do the will of the unicorns above all else.....

    If the people who were regarded as having authority bestowed on them by the unicorns were raping children and stealing and encouraging smashing peoples heads in with stones....

    Do you think you might occasionally engage in discussion about these unicorns and the people that believe in them? Do you think you might talk about the beliefs these unicorn followers professed and wished to apply to all of mankind? Even though you thought the probability of unicorns existing was really really low?


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    #77
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    Ickle Magoo wrote: »
    What, loike, a forum for religious skeptics? :pac:

    Best evidence for the lack of a god is the fact that even the most fervent theist can't put forward any more evidence for their god than the scottish tourist board can for Nessie.

    No. A place were you can all go and state the obious and think you're clever so this discussion can go on unhindered. So by your reasoning, lack of evidence seems to translate into evidence. *slow claps*


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    #78
    fudgez
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭fudgez


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    No. A place were you can all go and state the obious and think you're clever so this discussion can go on unhindered. So by your reasoning, lack of evidence seems to translate into evidence. *slow claps*

    Turkey and stuffing


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    #79
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    fudgez wrote: »
    I think the OP (trolly trollly troll) has been fed enough for one night lads and propose we answer the rest of his questions with sandwich recipes so he can learn to eat people food :)

    Ham and Cheese

    oh oh...
    Nutella!

    Tartine_et_pot_de_Nutella.jpg


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    #80
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    sebastian4jc I will conceed that your Judaic God known as JVH exsists,
    but that doesn't give him dibs on me or my soul.


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    #81
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    fudgez wrote: »
    Turkey and stuffing

    Yet again we have another person resorting to spewing offtopic nonsense in here. strobe: atheism refers to, by a definition your peers accept, as a lack of belief in God. God is not the same as unicorns, sorry.


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    #82
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    God is not the same as unicorns, sorry.

    Yes it is :)


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    #83
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    God is not the same as unicorns.

    Which god and why?


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    #84
    fudgez
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭fudgez


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    Yet again we have another person resorting to spewing offtopic nonsense in here. strobe: atheism refers to, by a definition your peers accept, as a lack of belief in God. God is not the same as unicorns, sorry.

    My heart bleeds for you Sebastian but I believe we have answered your questions in depth. Unless you have further questions all I can offer to satisfy your hunger is sandwich recommendations...

    Have you tried a good Strawberry Jam? delicious


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    #85
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I DON'T HAVE ANY BREAD! This is cruel and unusual, I want a sandwich now.


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    #86
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    Yet again we have another person resorting to spewing offtopic nonsense in here. strobe: atheism refers to, by a definition your peers accept, as a lack of belief in God. God is not the same as unicorns, sorry.

    Do you believe in unicorns? You either believe in them or lack a belief in them. Which is it?

    You have made a common mistake in presuming atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive when this is not the case. (A)theism dealing with belief {in deities} and (A)gnosticism dealing with knowlege {of the existence of deities in this case}.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
    =========================================================

    Grilled cheese and peanut butter {don't judge me}


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    #87
    sebastian4jc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭sebastian4jc


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Which god and why?
    The God that created the universe. Because a unicorn is not a God.


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    #88
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    Yet again we have another person resorting to spewing offtopic nonsense in here. strobe: atheism refers to, by a definition your peers accept, as a lack of belief in God. God is not the same as unicorns, sorry.

    double-down-1.jpg


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    #89
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    The God that created the universe. Because a unicorn is not a God.

    Well I say it is and I should know, I've followed a few.










    Chicken, bacon and lettuce with honey mustard dressing.


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    #90
    Glowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Glowing


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    The God that created the universe. Because a unicorn is not a God.

    Says who?

    Edit: I can't believe I'm getting sucked in .. give me patience.


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    #91
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    sebastian4jc wrote: »
    The God that created the universe. Because a unicorn is not a God.
    Swap universe for rainbows and there you go.


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