All your discussion on budget cuts / 4 year plan announcements today goes here.

ilovesleep

creativedrinker wrote: »

They should add an extra cut back in,

Every td, past/present and future should have their shiney merc's and chauffeurs taken away!! If the IMF can walk around Dublin so can they!!

Over 4 years with all the cars they have and chauffeurs it wud add up to a lot of money! Give them a company car like everyone else and let them drive around

I agree with this except for giving them a company car. let them use their own car. or better still use the bus. but then they might give themselves a free travel pass. or better still let them walk.

Biggins

Carey keeps repeating the now standard FF waffle of "invest in employment, industry, etc..."
The have been saying this for a long time now. Its the same bullschite and nothing new - and certainly absolutely feck all detail yet again!

Its all bloody generalisation PR spin and crap that would blow away with the slightest breeze!

* Sent another email into the show by the way!
(Hopefully they will read that too!)

th3 s1aught3r

By the sounds of it they are all in Election mode now

Biggins

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

By the sounds of it they are all in Election mode now

The soundbites are coming thick and fast!

ilovesleep

Have been crying all evening. Have been very sick vomiting tonight with stress and got the mother of all nosebleeds that wont stop. fcuk you very much fcukfail fcukers. hope to god i dont wake in the morning.

Biggins

LOL Vincent is very cutting LOL

OPENROAD

What the **** does Vincent Browns pay have to do with the FF guy :mad::rolleyes:

Gunsfortoys

200,000 a year...

OPENROAD

That FF guy is a disgrace :mad::mad::mad:

Biggins

ilovesleep wrote: »

Have been crying all evening. Have been very sick vomiting tonight with stress and got the mother of all nosebleeds that wont stop. fcuk you very much fcukfail fcukers. hope to god i dont wake in the morning.

All joking aside, the wife is gone to bed early she is that angry at the whole mess and todays announcements.

I'm dreading budget day's announcements. she will be pulling the hair out of her head with stress further.
(And I ain't joking!)

Absurdum

VinB is gonna batter poor Carey

OPENROAD

Absurdum wrote: »

VinB is gonna batter poor Carey

Gunsfortoys

OPENROAD wrote: »

That FF guy is a disgrace :mad::mad::mad:

At least he went on the program. None of the rest of the spineless cretins went on. He is a vain ****er though.

some_dose

While I won't disagree with Vincent's argument, this kind of berating is now pointless. It'll change nothing


It does make for interesting viewing though!

th3 s1aught3r

OPENROAD wrote: »

That FF guy is a disgrace :mad::mad::mad:

The most annoying thing is that they dont have any shame. They really dont see whats wrong with their salaries and expenses. And they made a mess of it and should all be SACKED WITHOUT ANY MORE PAY

Ali Babba

Carey has some brass neck on him..........

123balltv

get on your chariot Pat :mad: I hope you crash and burn 200k :mad:
here baldy why dont you walk to work walk like the IMF
please IMF take that money off him makes me sick they earn that much and they say minimum wage 8.65 is to high

Biggins

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

At least he went on the program. None of the rest of the spineless cretins went on. He is a vain ****er though.

This is true. I was surprised to see him back - never mind within a few days of the last lashing he got.

He reminds me of the Sadam's Minister for Information before the fall!
A bumbling idiot spouting his leaders latest spin!

Ali Babba

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

The most annoying thing is that they dont have any shame. They really dont see whats wrong with their salaries and expenses. And they made a mess of it and should all be SACKED WITHOUT ANY MORE PAY

The f**kers should be sued for breach of contract, they were payed to do a job they didn't do.

Lord Trollington

Biggins wrote: »

All joking aside, the wife is gone to bed early she is that angry at the whole mess and todays announcements.

I'm dreading budget day's announcements. she will be pulling the hair out of her head with stress further.
(And I ain't joking!)

We're all pretty pis*ed Biggins.

We may grit the teeth and get on with it. We cant give up.
I love Ireland, I want to live in it, bring up my kids in it and grow old in it.
And no Fianna Fail Gimp is going to drive me out of it.
In fact, there going to drive me on further to be better.

Gunsfortoys

some_dose wrote: »

While I won't disagree with Vincent's argument, this kind of berating is now pointless. It'll change nothing


It does make for interesting viewing though!

No it isn't berating.

The guy is pointing out the ridiculous facts.

ilovesleep

Biggins wrote: »

All joking aside, the wife is gone to bed early she is that angry at the whole mess and todays announcements.

I'm dreading budget day's announcements. she will be pulling the hair out of her head with stress further.
(And I ain't joking!)

Heres hoping ill be dead by budget day. really loving VB - get a taxi he says

Absurdum

OPENROAD wrote: »

tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek

he is being torn to shreds

th3 s1aught3r

Biggins wrote: »

This is true. I was surprised to see him back - never mind within a few days of the last lashing he got.

He reminds me of the Sadam's Minister for Information before the fall!
A bumbling idiot spouting his leaders latest spin!

I wonder whos Pat Carey pissed off so much that he has to be the FF punch bag

Biggins

ilovesleep wrote: »

Heres hoping ill be dead by budget day. really loving VB - get a taxi he says

Thought that was funny - but we'd still be slapped with the expense bill of that ride too!

Feckers! :mad:

OPENROAD

Absurdum wrote: »

tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek

he is being torn to shreds

I know

Biggins

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I wonder whos Pat Carey pissed off so much that he has to be the FF punch bag

It must have been something very bad or he's into pain! :pac:

Absurdum

VinB is getting some stick on twitter...

FrankSunTimes Frank Fitzgibbon
When Vincent Browne asks somebody what they earn and they reply with the gross figure he should do the same when providing his earnings

FrankSunTimes Frank Fitzgibbon
Vincent earns €54k after tax? Presents TV programme and has 2 national newspaper columns? He needs a new agent #vinb

steddyeddy

pat carey on vinb saying that hell give up the garda driver when the garda commisioner says its no longer nesacery either the commisioner is an idiot or pat carey is lieing

brianthebard

disappointed the tds have left the studio, they all needed to be asked where they stood on the idea of a default and when they would do it.

Biggins

brianthebard wrote: »

disappointed the tds have left the studio, they all needed to be asked where they stood on the idea of a default and when they would do it.

Disappointed too. Very tame show tonight in comparison to other nights.

OPENROAD

Biggins wrote: »

Disappointed too. Very tame show tonight in comparison to other nights.

Thing it was asked on Prime Time or the show before VB, think the opinion was we can't, certainly on sovereign debt

hotmail.com

Absurdum wrote: »

VinB is getting some stick on twitter...

FrankSunTimes Frank Fitzgibbon
When Vincent Browne asks somebody what they earn and they reply with the gross figure he should do the same when providing his earnings

FrankSunTimes Frank Fitzgibbon
Vincent earns €54k after tax? Presents TV programme and has 2 national newspaper columns? He needs a new agent #vinb

VB's salary is completely irrelevant - he's paid by a private commercial station.

Carey had a cheek to ask him . Carey is paid by US, we have a right to know what he's being paid.

OPENROAD

hotmail.com wrote: »

VB's salary is completely irrelevant - he's paid by a private commercial station.

Carey had a cheek to ask him . Carey is paid by the US, we have a right to know what he's being paid.

+1

was a bloody disgrace imo :mad::mad:

Biggins

hotmail.com wrote: »

VB's salary is completely irrelevant - he's paid by a private commercial station.

Carey had a cheek to ask him . Carey is paid by the US, we have a right to know what he's being paid.

Indeed but some will always hope (FF!) that we are so stupid that we not kop that.
Instead they will go for the blatant gloss over actual reality.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Absurdum wrote: »

Correction, they would have a much worse situation.

Now is the time for big ****ing balls, not bending over and letting them give it to us.

What do you suggest we do?

It would be a big problem for them, in turn making it a big problem for us

brianthebard

Glad someone in the public eye is saying that this restructuring of the banks is a myth, because its a total charade, it won't happen.

Biggins

brianthebard wrote: »

Glad someone in the public eye is saying that this restructuring of the banks is a myth, because its a total charade, it won't happen.

At best, its just window dressing or like a game of musical chairs.
A lot of useless movement and everyone going around in circles ...but hey!!!
...FF thinks it looks good and we will be fooled!

Absurdum

Aspen Muscular Uteri wrote: »

What do you suggest we do?

It would be a big problem for them, in turn making it a big problem for us

it's already a big problem for us though, Noonan on Prime Time offered a glimmer of hope imo

brianthebard

Biggins wrote: »

At best, its just window dressing or like a game of musical chairs.
A lot of useless movement and everyone going around in circles ...but hey!!!
...FF thinks it looks good and we will be fooled!

That's what the whole thing is. FF are hoping that the bailout will stand up long enough for them to get out of office and then they'll scapegoat FG/Lab when they inevitably default.

FreudianSlippers

ilovesleep wrote: »

Heres hoping ill be dead by budget day. really loving VB - get a taxi he says

http://i.imgur.com/7OMW4.gif

OPENROAD

Guys is that true about the Interest payments?

steddyeddy

hotmail.com wrote: »

VB's salary is completely irrelevant - he's paid by a private commercial station.

Carey had a cheek to ask him . Carey is paid by US, we have a right to know what he's being paid.

Im glad he asked him and even happier that vinb responded, the face on carey when vinb said he earned 54k after tax. Garda cars, 200k the whole system needs to change!!

Not one fianna fail minister has declared they are taking a pay cut and they have no problem cutting social welfare and minimum wage!

AlmightyCushion

OPENROAD wrote: »

Guys is that true about the Interest payments?

Apparently when the 6% figure was mentioned it wasn't relating to the IMF bailout it was relating to our existing debt. No one really knows though.

Biggins

steddyeddy wrote: »

...Not one fianna fail minister has declared they are taking a pay cut and they have no problem cutting social welfare and minimum wage!

Don't forget, they just gave themselves increases! Massive increases in cases!
See: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056083258

HarryPotter41

whycliff wrote: »

Surely your having a laugh, are your parents still alive? Or are they affluent enough to not worry about such minor details.

My mother had all those entitlements while she was alive and was living very adequately. She could certainly have managed without €5 per week of her pension. The idea that the pensioners of this country are somehow living in penury and can't contribute is ludicrous. I have no problem with them having the freebies, but they also have what is now a substantial sum in a pension as well and as has been said here, everyone has to do their bit here.

steddyeddy

Biggins wrote: »

Don't forget, they just gave themselves increases! Massive increases in cases!
See: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056083258

I didnt forget. exactly why im marching saturday

OPENROAD

steddyeddy wrote: »

Im glad he asked him and even happier that vinb responded, the face on carey when vinb said he earned 54k after tax. Garda cars, 200k the whole system needs to change!!

Not one fianna fail minister has declared they are taking a pay cut and they have no problem cutting social welfare and minimum wage!

Richard Bruton has said they need to take a pay cut, anybody else?

Biggins

steddyeddy wrote: »

I didnt forget exactly why im marching saturday

See you there!

th3 s1aught3r

Biggins wrote: »

Don't forget, they just gave themselves increases! Massive increases in cases!
See: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056083258

I am not convinced an election sorts all this out either. I dont think FG/lab will reform the way the public sector and government is run to be honest