4 Year Plan to be announced at 2pm - Live on RTE, TV3

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The 4 Year Plan will be announced at 2 this afternoon and will be covered by RTE radio, RTE1, TV3, Newstalk and international media.

You can watch live here too over the internet:

http://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/Web-Live.htm

Permabear

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Cionád

http://www.rte.ie/news/player_newsnow.html

dan_d

If they're like most other PS offices, they don't reopen after lunch til 2.15, or 2.30:D
Edit - just opened that Dail TV player and it says "Dail Eireann suspended until 2.30pm".Proving my point!!!!

wiseguy

here they come

tinner777

Ffs???

whatawaster

1.2 billion cut in public pay.

Is that a f*cking joke? So pay will still be ~ 60% of our tax revenue?

jmayo

Since I desperately need money like every othe rpoor smuck in this country does anyone want to take bets on when RTE will pull the coverage ?

am i bovvered

for gods sake, they cannot even get the announcement right what hope for the contents :mad:

dan_d

Huh?
I'm listening and I didn't hear that?????

whatawaster

They want to increase revenues to 2006 levels.

**** ****

dan_d

I know Cowen is talking waffle, but he sounds as though someone sat down with him yesterday or today and beat the reality into his head about how people feel, and about the situation he's created for his own kids to grow up to....briefly...

hotmail.com

What does the public sector pay cuts mean? Why is RTE radio not covering the speech live?

wiseguy

* public service at 2005 level
* tax at 2006 level (revenue page for 2006)

blah

whatawaster wrote: »

They want to increase revenues to 2006 levels.

**** ****

So we'll have to go back to selling houses to each other?

jmayo

When he says "we are a smart resilent people" he should leave out the we bit. :rolleyes:

Any chance someone could hack the background TVs to read something else like
"This has been brought to by the IMF, ECB, EU and the joke of an Irish government."

unkel

whatawaster wrote: »

1.2 billion cut in public pay.

Nope, ZERO cut in public pay. NO redundancies, NO wage cuts. Only some minor cuts in public sector pensions and some voluntary redundancies...

damoz

sources?

hubiedubie

Minimum wage is being cut by one euro per hour, to €7.75 / hour. But the corporation tax rate of 12.5% has been saved.

VAT is being raised, from its 21% rate today to 22% in 2013, and 23% in 2014. That's meant to save €620m

Cookie_Monster

damoz wrote: »

sources?

:rolleyes:

live budget speech maybe. tv, radio, streaming

Max Power1

damoz wrote: »

sources?

RTE Player?

http://www.rte.ie/news/player_live.html

damoz

Max Power1 wrote: »

RTE Player?

http://www.rte.ie/news/player_live.html

sorry - no sound here. ill take your word for it.

seamus

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

:rolleyes:

live budget speech maybe. tv, radio, streaming

Dail Internet Feed says the Dail is suspended until 2.30 p.m.

That's probably why he's wondering.

Max Power1

hubiedubie wrote: »

Minimum wage is being cut by one euro per hour, to €7.75 / hour. But the corporation tax rate of 12.5% has been saved.

VAT is being raised, from its 21% rate today to 22% in 2013, and 23% in 2014. That's meant to save €620m

CT rate must be saved or we would flounder.

Vat rate increase? Major facepalm at that idea, heading up north - vat hikes here, weaker sterling in the future = major savings up north.

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Amalgam

I love the semantics\wording of the Teasoich: The crisis that has come to Ireland..

Like something from elsewhere.. when we all know the problems are well rooted at home.

This is quite a gentle set of measures, they've more or less decided to hand over the problems to the next government.

Einhard

I don't like the way that Gormley is using his preamble for a party political boradcast.

Bob_Latchford

They worked weekends trying to sort this out and some late nights too!

Busi_Girl08

damoz wrote: »

sources?

There's a video feed on the Irish Times Live Blog

http://www.irishtimes.com/topics/economiccrisis/liveblog.html

dan_d

Ah.I'm listening, couldn't figure out where people were getting those actual numbers from....
Thanks.

Mr E

They put a lot of thought and time into that Powerpoint presentation in the background, didn't they?

scargill

lenihan - "live register has fallen over the last 2 months", lies, damned lies and statistics comes to mind!

DrumSteve

was that a property tax i just heard?

AND 25,000 ps staff gone? betcha its the newbies.

wiseguy

530 million in new local charges

thats about 550 euro per average house per year in property taxes

yep houseowners and renters will endup paying for this

whatawaster

VAT rate increase is the height of stupidity.

Dannyboy83

Based on what I've read, there is VERY LITTLE in the way of reform here.

It looks like they have bottled it in the face of the unions.

That's it.
Ireland is fcuked now.

There is no doubt in my mind that we are going to default.
I cannot believe they have bottled it.

Dotsie~tmp

The banks Brian. What about the banks. Ive no doubt we are getting public finances back on track but its all about the banking system.

D e e

Bob_Latchford wrote: »

They worked weekends trying to sort this out and some late nights too!

What do they want? A medal for doing what we pay them to do? 8-|

Summary from the department:

http://www.budget.gov.ie/Leaflet.pdf

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Minimum wage cut by €1.

jmayo

whatawaster wrote: »

VAT rate increase is the height of stupidity.

Well would you expect them to do something smart ?

When they zoom out it looks like mary c and the three stooges. :rolleyes:

Cookie_Monster

hellboy99 wrote: »

Summary from the department:

http://www.budget.gov.ie/Leaflet.pdf

useless

no hard numbers or % rates, just high level figures thrown about

DrumSteve

Lower Wages/Increase VAT?

IDIOTS!!!!

Bob_Latchford

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

Based on what I've read, there is VERY LITTLE in the way of reform here.

It looks like they have bottled it in the face of the unions.

That's it.
Ireland is fcuked now.

There is no doubt in my mind that we are going to default.
I cannot believe they have bottled it.

Was hoping for more reform & restructuring too

dan_d

It doesn't actually say anywhere what exactly they are going to do.It just gives average figures and average cuts and percentages.

It doesn't give detail!:mad:Surely that was the whole point of this plan?????

And WHY are they increasing VAT? Last time they did that, everyone just flocked over the Border. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

the groutch

talk about self-contradiction, talking about reducing the minimum wage by €1 and incentivising employment in the sentence

wiseguy

dan_d wrote: »

It doesn't actually say anywhere what exactly they are going to do.It just gives average figures and average cuts and percentages.

It doesn't give detail!:mad:Surely that was the whole point of this plan?????

Brian Leniham - "Work it out yourself"

Cookie_Monster

at least that ridiculous artist exemption was cut down, 40k limit

dan_d

Probably would do a better job of it than him....:p

Bob_Latchford

Installing water meters will keep a few busy