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Protest March 27/11/2010

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    #692
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Again you show contempt for the majority of the population

    Yes, i do show contempt for a lot of the population. That is pretty much what i said in my first post. Considering 22% of people in Donegal still voted for FF yesterday I think my contempt is well founded.


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    #693
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    gonedrinking wrote: »
    pathetic excuse, you could have taken the day off, shame on you

    I assume that is sarcasm but no I couldnt actually as i have been off sick recently and if i could I would have.


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    #694
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    davyjose wrote: »
    sick wife, child to look after. If you bothered to read the thread, you'd see that. Also, mobile phones have internet now. So you didn't really think your smartarse reply, did you?

    So the point you're trying to get to is that you're not there, but quite happy to insult everyone else that's not there ?


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    #695
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    samsemtex wrote: »
    Yes, i do show contempt for a lot of the population. That is pretty much what i said in my first post. Considering 22% of people in Donegal still voted for FF yesterday I think my contempt is well founded.

    22% is a small minority, however the majority of people in the city, never mind the country, choose not to support the unions march. There's a big difference.


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    #696
    gollem_1975
    Registered Users Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭gollem_1975


    samsemtex wrote: »
    As i said in the post before that. Im at work.

    Are you being paid to post on Boards ?

    If you felt so strongly about joining the protest you should have taken the day off.

    If you don't feel strong enough about it to do the above..then less of the pathethic Irish comments...

    I've gotta split , my real boss (wife) is telling me to turn off the laptop :)


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    #697
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    So the point you're trying to get to is that you're not there, but quite happy to insult everyone else that's not there ?

    The point is that there are dozens of people who could be there but arent. The man has a good reason and i'm sure if he could be there he would. There are 400,000 people unemployed, probably half of them live within 40mins of Dublin yet we have so far less than 10,000 people by all accounts.

    And its a Saturday and 80% of people are off so even more people could be there if they wanted. It is pathetic whatever way you look at it. I see it myself everyday, there is complete apathy to what is going on around us. Very few young people seem interested other than those that are already entrenched in the idiocy that is Irish party politics.

    edit: Apparently the crowd is larger than first reported so if that is true i take back some of what i have said.


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    #698
    PopUp
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    Another estimate on BBC News - 25,000-30,000 people.


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    #699
    BumbleB
    Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭BumbleB


    You know yer man david begg ICTU man ,man of the people and all that. Well I just downloaded a central bank report and guess who was on the board of directors. :rolleyes:


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    #700
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    So the point you're trying to get to is that you're not there, but quite happy to insult everyone else that's not there ?
    Or, I'm disappointed at the hundreds of thousands who could be there, and aren't, because they don't want to be associated with the unions. Would it kill you to read back over this thread? Really, would it?


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    #701
    hinault
    Registered Users Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    samsemtex wrote: »
    The point is that there are dozens of people who could be there but arent. The man has a good reason and i'm sure if he could be there he would. There are 400,000 people unemployed, probably half of them live within 40mins of Dublin yet we have so far less than 10,000 people by all accounts.

    And its a Saturday and 80% of people are off so even more people could be there if they wanted. It is pathetic whatever way you look at it. I see it myself everyday, there is complete apathy to what is going on around us. Very few young people seem interested other than those that are already entrenched in the idiocy that is Irish party politics.

    Just back from the demo.

    I have to work this afternoon but I'm glad I attended.
    No sign of troublemakers among the people I marched alongside.


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    #702
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    There's nothing pathetic about not wanting to support a union march.

    People like yourself can't have it both ways. You whinge about how this is a democracy and say the people want an election. Yet when the vast majority of the population don't want to support this march, as is their democratic right, you have a problem with this. You need to accept you're in the minority in this instance.


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    #703
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    So the point you're trying to get to is that you're not there, but quite happy to insult everyone else that's not there ?
    Or, I'm disappointed at the hundreds of thousands who could be there, and aren't, because they don't want to be associated with the unions. Would it kill you to read back over this thread? Really, would it?
    The protesters have my support today. Albeit from afar. What can I do? At least I'm not hiding behind weakness, or a sudden indignance toward the unions, as support, through apathy, of this government. If you want to pick holes in my reasons go right ahead. I wouldn't be surprised so many have their head in the sand.


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    #704
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    There's nothing pathetic about not wanting to support a union march.

    People like yourself can't have it both ways. You whinge about how this is a democracy and say the people want an election. Yet when the vast majority of the population don't want to support this march, as is their democratic right, you have a problem with this. You need to accept you're in the minority in this instance.
    it's pathetic to blame the unions on your cowardice to stand against this government.
    You know nothing about me. This isn't the first assumption you've made about me today.


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    #705
    Mark200
    Registered Users Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    davyjose wrote: »
    Jesus wept.
    The country is in the toilet, but the priority is not to be affiliated with the union. What a pathetic excuse for being a walkover.

    I don't see why you think someone should march with people crying about cuts that are necessary. The protest isn't going to achieve anything... and more importantly, the protest isn't even supposed to achieve anything. It's just giving people a place to cry in public about something that can't be changed. Lets them feel all important. A lot of people, like me, who have chosen not to go on the protest are doing so because they don't see the point in protesting against something when there is nothing anyone can, or should, do about. We are where we are. We can play the blame game when the election campaigning begins. If people think that this protest allows their voice to be heard then they're sadly mistaken. How many people in this topic have said that people should go along even if they don't agree with the ones organising the protest? How on Earth would that be allowing your voice to be heard? You'd just be allowing yourself to be a number for the ICTU to include in their "look how many people oppose your cuts" statistic.


    Also... I think it's kind of funny how this protest was arranged long before the 4 year plan was even released... before people knew what they'd even be protesting against!


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    #706
    Mark200
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    davyjose wrote: »
    it's pathetic to blame the unions on your cowardice to stand against this government.
    You know nothing about me. This isn't the first assumption you've made about me today.

    It's pathetic that you think it takes courage to go for a walk around town on a Saturday afternoon.


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    #707
    bimbar
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    great live webcam feed from within the crowd

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/quaycam


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    #708
    MonkeyTennis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    in work today. Im surprised at some peoples attitude towards the unions. As far as Im concerned this is a march against the government and the all mighty balls they have made of the country. Id say the weather did have its part to play


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    #709
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    listen lads, I've given my reasons for not attending. So let me know when the internet warrior march is on, and I'll definitely attend that.
    Like ffs, what are you guys waiting on?


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    #710
    Mark200
    Registered Users Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    davyjose wrote: »
    Like ffs, what are you guys waiting on?

    Something that might actually help........?


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    #711
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    davyjose wrote: »
    You know nothing about me. This isn't the first assumption you've made about me today.

    I didn't think you'd mind as you've done the same but on a much larger scale, several million I think it was that you made sweeping judgements against ?


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    #712
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    What I and any reasonable person would have treated today as would be an anti government march. The fact that the unions have organised it means nothing to me. The country has been completely and utterly ****ed by the government and this is/was an opportunity to mobilise people. As it stands it just looks like we don't care. The rest of the world cannot understand our apathy to all of this and neither can I.


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    #713
    Mark200
    Registered Users Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    samsemtex wrote: »
    What I and any reasonable person would have treated today as would be an anti government march. The fact that the unions have organised it means nothing to me. The country has been completely and utterly ****ed by the government and this is/was an opportunity to mobilise people. As it stands it just looks like we don't care. The rest of the world cannot understand our apathy to all of this and neither can I.

    To treat this an an "anti government" day would be ridiculous considering the banners you'd be marching under would be demanding the reversal of the cuts.

    And the people who attempted to stop Government austerity measures in Greece were a joke. They should be embarrassed of themselves, and most of the world's media were critical of them for not grasping what exactly was going on in their country and why the Government needed to make cuts.


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    #714
    trishasaffron
    Registered Users Posts: 922 ✭✭✭trishasaffron


    I would have marched except that this is being advertised as a march against the austerity plans - I am in favour of the austerity plans but NOT IN FAVOUR OF THE INCOMPETENCE AND GREED THAT MADE THESE PLANS NECESSARY.

    Please sign me up for the anti-greed and incompetence march!


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    #715
    Fluorescence
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    I would have marched except I overslept :o. I'm just up now...

    Hope it goes well for everyone who's alarm clocks worked this morning :P


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    #716
    samsemtex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    Mark200 wrote: »
    To treat this an an "anti government" day would be ridiculous considering the banners you'd be marching under would be demanding the reversal of the cuts.

    And the people who attempted to stop Government austerity measures in Greece were a joke. They should be embarrassed of themselves, and most of the world's media were critical of them for not grasping what exactly was going on in their country and why the Government needed to make cuts.

    Or you could have made your own banners? Look i kind of understand the mentality behind not marching as i have nothing but contempt for the Unions myself. But....the fact that there seems to be no sign of any other types of protest happening makes this one of the few opportunities for people to show their anger.

    We've just completely rolled over and frankly its embarrassing.


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    #717
    JohnfromGalway
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭JohnfromGalway


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    22% is a small minority, however the majority of people in the city, never mind the country, choose not to support the unions march. There's a big difference.

    What's really scary (and ominous) if the 61.2% first preferences that SF & FF got between them in Donegal.


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    #718
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭baldbear


    A fooking song, jaysus it's like Joe duffys unfunny Friday.


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    #719
    mikemac
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    Watching the feed there

    David Begg announced that gardai officially put the attendance at over 100,000

    There are calls too
    "what do we want?"
    "General strike"


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    #720
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users Posts: 8,144 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    A few minutes ago the gardai said 50000 on sky news...


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    #721
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Something that might actually help........?
    I think the government need to be resisted in every way possible. We're the ones having to bail this nation out - we need to make sure it's being done in a way that suits us.

    Thisregard, I may have come on strong. I apologise for that, but I see this march as, hopefully, a beginning of the irish people standing up for themselves. I'm saddened others are so critical. I'm an easy target, but I'm gutted I couldn't attend, and I won't hide away over it. My goal is clear: make every remaining day of ff's so called leadership a misery for Cowen and co.


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