Swiss sending home non swiss for certain crimes

enda1

biko wrote: »

If there are Irish 666 prisoner in UK that leave 100 or so elsewhere.
From your first post to the most recent you've gone from "probably more prisoners" ot "There are more of ours abroad than theirs here thus costing us far more in the long run".

My stats from 2007 says that's not so, do you have other numbers to support your theory?

As to "Why would they prefer to spend the time in Irish prisons???" read this

We can only speculate on the real numbers so I'm just going with reported numbers.

Anyway, it's not really the point here whether they want to go home or not - as it's not likely to happen.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1130/1224284431332.html

A nice quote from which is:

Conditions in many prisons were “an insult to the dignity of any human being and an affront to the basic tenets of decency”. Prisoners were subject to overcrowding, drugs and violence.

Your quote is relating to developing countries. I'm talking about EU member states, not Western Africa!

The word probably need no longer be used when faced with the facts.
There are around 3500 prisoners currently in Irish prisons, of which 10% are non national.

So yeah, there are more Irish prisoners abroad than non-nationals in Irish prisons.

biko

There was in 2005 765 Irish prisoners abroad, this page shows it's EU and elsewhere. Just over 700 in UK.

The same year 2005 non-Irish were 2185 out of 8686 - about 25%
Page 10 http://www.irishprisons.ie/documents/Prisons_Report_2005.pdf

As that was 5 years ago number will have changed but it show the relationship at one point in time.

There are around 3500 prisoners currently in Irish prisons, of which 10% are non national.

Can you link to these stats? I haven't seen them.

Edit, a bit further digging I find this
http://www.irishprisons.ie/documents/AnnualReport2009PDF.pdf
Table 2.5: Nationality of persons in custody under sentence on 4 December 2009
Show a single day, 3418. Out of those 89.2% were Irish.

Table 2.10: Nationality as given by persons committed in 2009 & 2008
Irish in 2008 was 70.3% and in 2009 75.6%

So in 2005 we had 25% non-Irish in prison, in 2008 almost 30% and again in 2009 25%.
The last census shows the number of non-Irish living in Ireland as a total of 420,000 living in Ireland in April 2006, representing 188 different countries.
That's 10% of the 2006 population.


This is getting off topic btw, this thread is about the Swiss vote.

wolfpawnat

We have enough problems with our own criminals, why should we be looking after other peoples as well!?!?! I am terrified enough having to think of the Larry Murphy, I don't want to have to worry about any other nationality one as well! Also because of the EU rules regarding the free movement of people, Garda checks are seldom done and we have no idea of who we are allowing in! Get rid of the murderers, rapists, and other major criminals. I do believe we should take responsibility for our people who have committed crimes in other countries too! It is not Englands job to deal with our killers either!

It is not xenophobic to say send criminals home. I am more than happy to leave law abiding foreigners here. If they are not contributing to the crime rates here, then they are welcome IMO:)

profitius

So it seems some of you think that its ok to allow foreign criminals into Ireland because... we've plenty of Irish criminals!


Great logic there :rolleyes: