Braces opionions..

theshamu

Hi,

Any body got any personal experiences with the simpli5 6 month brace, all the web content is the same with no before or after photos..

Considering this option for myself so any info appreciated.

Cheers

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Best to see if you are suitable first by going to a proper orthodontist for a consultation. Its really just another system of high speed orthodontics only suitable for very minor cases. There are many many many other systems that do the same thing.

theshamu

fitzgeme: Got the consultation and this system would workfor me just not sure if it's the right road to go down.

theshamu

Hi,

Got a quote on some braces that would like your input on, weather you think is expensive or reasonable..

• Simpli5 6 month upper brace 1850 inc. fixed and removable retainers
• 6 month upper brace 2,900 inc. fixed and removable retainers
• 6 months upper & lower 4,300 inc. fixed and removable retainers
• Damon Clear Upper (3-3) 3,350 inc. fixed and removable retainers
• Damon Clear Upper & Lower 4,200 (3-3) inc. fixed and removable retainers

I originally wanted to go with the Simpli5 method (upper only) and was told I qualify for this but the dentist recommended that I go for the Damon Clear Upper & Lower to completely fix my upper and lower teeth.
(in my opinion my bottom teeth arn't that bad but my gums are apparently narrow)

Now I don't think he's trying to screw me but I'm seriously thinking about it. Just afraid if I get the Simpli5 brace that it wont do a good of a job as the rest and dont want to blow 1850 euro if I wont get the results.

Thanks

btkm8unsl0w5r4

If the consultation was from a qualified orthodontist then you should follow their advice.

If it was from a dentist that does only this system then not so sure.

Dentistry is in ways unregulated. In medicine you dont get a GP doing gall stone operations or a brain surgeon doing heart transplants. In dentistry all dentists can do all procedures they feel competent to do. A proper orthodontist is a specialist in braces. They will be familiar with all systems and recommend the one thats best for you. A dentist that has bought a specific system and gone on a course will think that that system is the best one because their experience of other treatment modalities is limited. They choose the system thats best for them.

You dont get a carpenter advertising that they have new better nails, the nails are a tool to get results. The same with these braces. At some point some marketing genius decided that specific dental products should be advertised like stand alone purchases directly to patients ( 6 months smiles, zirconia crowns, davinci veneers, zoom whitening...etc.) it is infact the skill and knowledge of the operator that delivers results, the tools used as you would expect all work if you apply them in the correct way for the correct case.

They best way to know you are making the correct decision is to go to a qualified specialist orthodontist. And no I am not an orthodontist.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Merged with other thread....still cannot understand why quick limited objective braces that take one sixth of the time to do cost more than a full course of braces for 2-3 years? Should they not be cheaper? A full course of orthodontics upper and lower by a qualified orthodontist with 3 years full time specialist masters will cost about 3-4k in south county dublin.

theshamu

Estrella Bumpy Tuba wrote: »

They best way to know you are making the correct decision is to go to a qualified specialist orthodontist. And no I am not an orthodontist.

Thanks for the advice..

This guy is a qualified orthodontist and has 3-4 types of braces with various uses and results. I think I'll just 'bite' the bullet and go the whole 9 yards and get the Damon Clear Upper & Lower (3-3) , I know it'll be well worth the time and money in the end.

What does 3-3 mean

Cheers

btkm8unsl0w5r4

3-3 means the 6 front teeth ( canine - canine)

theshamu

Estrella Bumpy Tuba wrote: »

3-3 means the 6 front teeth ( canine - canine)

So does than mean the brace will only alter the front 6 teeth?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Yep, this high speed stuff only treats the front teeth, there is a reason conventional braces take so long its not like the orthodontists want it to drag on and on, its just thats how long a complete job takes.

theshamu

Estrella Bumpy Tuba wrote: »

Yep, this high speed stuff only treats the front teeth, there is a reason conventional braces take so long its not like the orthodontists want it to drag on and on, its just thats how long a complete job takes.

But the Damon Clear Upper & Lower (3-3) takes 15-18 months? if that was the case surely I'd be better of just getting the 6 months braces? I thought the Damon braces would re-align all my upper and lower teeth not just top 6

kkth0360

He may be suggesting Damon clear on the front 6 teeth, with metal Damon brackets on the back teeth?

As fitz said, you should confirm that the guy is a properly qualified orthodontist by checking the Dental Council's Specialist Register here , or the Orthodontic Society of Ireland at www.orthodontics.ie.
- some dentists use potentially misleading statements on their websites such as "has a Masters Degree in Orthodontics" or "fully trained in the use of Damon braces" etc, but if they're not on the specialist list they are not an orthodontist.

€4300 is extraordinarily expensive for "6-month" braces. After all, these are exactly the same as fixed braces, but are just taken off after the initial alignment phase is completed. The "6-month braces" brand is simply a marketing tool, and is mainly used by general dentists (not orthodontists). If an orthodontist feels this type of limited treatment is suitable for you they will normally offer it as an option, but you should expect to pay much less than for a full course of treatment since it takes less than half the time.

Not too sure what he means about needing braces on your lower teeth because of "narrow gums"? This doesn't make any sense to me - if I were you I would get some clarification on this before making a decision. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that having orthodontic treatment improves gum health in the long term, in fact in some cases the opposite can be true.

Regarding Simpli5 - I personally find that it gives very good results in carefully selected cases, but the results of any type of aligner treatment (Simpli5, Invisalign, Clearstep etc) will never be as predictable as fixed braces, as they do not offer the same level of 3-dimensional control of tooth / root position. That said, they can often give very acceptable results in certain types of cases, and are obviously much more aesthetic than fixed braces.

Best of luck!