An Post are *****.

knird evol

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

Excellent idea on the small claims court, clarify for me how it would be proved that the postman didn't knock on the door?? And I tend to knock on doors when I go to see people because half the houses I go to the bloody bell doesn't work.

The post man admits himself he didn't ring the door bell.

Orando Broom

Swampy wrote: »

They never attempt delivery. I think they hate carrying packages around. I've been home when they have stuck notes in the door and they never knocked or rang the bell.

Part of me can't really blame them with the amount of packages they have to deliver these days.

Only rich people get packages in the mail. An Post hate the rich!!! FACT.

seamus

ShadowGal wrote: »

has you wife ever caught him at the door when she sees him put the mail and the docket in ? surely she must have, if so what did he say ?

Well she's normally in her dressing gown until she leaves the house, so she was hardly going to chase him now, was she? I too have been in the house in the morning and heard the mail heard the mail hitting the floor and again, docket in the pile but no knock on the door or ring on the doorbell.

just to let you know, there is no policy whatsoever that says they dont have to bring packets with them.

Well, my experience and that of my neighbours, the similar experience of others on this thread and the comments of the staff in An Post tells me that official or not, this is what they do. Your obvious affiliation seems to somewhat blind you to the possibility that some depots cut corners or make unofficial local policies.

In Tallaght, they very clearly write out a docket for every parcel that comes in for a residental delivery and then send the docket out with the normal mail, rather than send any parcels out.

I couldn't be bothered making a fuss because like I say, I get most stuff delivered to work and this has only happened four or five times in 3 years. Since there was someone there for at least two of these occasions, then I can say that at best, 50% of the time they don't bother bringing the package with them. But I'm very confident that this is in fact all of the time.

Kimono-Girl

i disagree with the title but i do agree that the majority of An post workers i have dealt with have been incompetent and not very helpful,

between post going missing, birthday presents arriving three months later (in the same county), post disappearing for two weeks at a time and then all of it coming the following week...even though we live in an urban area we seem to only get post 2 weeks out of four! I get annoyed with them alot,

BUT

i wouldn't agree all of An Post are like that...
i've known personally some postmen who have gone beyond the call of duty time and time again, they work hard and do their job properly. we live next door to a postman (not our one unfortunately he works in the country), he's really nice and the story's he tells us show that for the most part there are those working there who are competent! and they get frustrated when they are all tarred with the same brush!

those who work in my local post office are also An Post workers and are beyond nice and very competent, (i go there alot for their AIB facilities as its closer than the bank and never had any issues)

tman

I know this isn't ranting and raving, but I feel like joining in here...

Had to phone An Post customer service to try to figure out wtf happened to my Glastonbury ticket (international registered post which has to be signed for) a few days before I was due to go;

Me - Online tracking shows that this was delivered and signed for... Could you tell me who actually signed for it??
Her - Oh. We didn't get a signature for it...

I had to spend an HOUR literally running around the perimeter of the Glastonbury site to get to the ticket office before they closed for the night, in order to get my replacement ticket.
I've never really vented about this, but thanks a bunch you fupping incompetent twits!

ShadowGal

seamus wrote: »

Well she's normally in her dressing gown until she leaves the house, so she was hardly going to chase him now, was she? I too have been in the house in the morning and heard the mail heard the mail hitting the floor and again, docket in the pile but no knock on the door or ring on the doorbell.
Well, my experience and that of my neighbours, the similar experience of others on this thread and the comments of the staff in An Post tells me that official or not, this is what they do. Your obvious affiliation seems to somewhat blind you to the possibility that some depots cut corners or make unofficial local policies.

In Tallaght, they very clearly write out a docket for every parcel that comes in for a residental delivery and then send the docket out with the normal mail, rather than send any parcels out.

I couldn't be bothered making a fuss because like I say, I get most stuff delivered to work and this has only happened four or five times in 3 years. Since there was someone there for at least two of these occasions, then I can say that at best, 50% of the time they don't bother bringing the package with them. But I'm very confident that this is in fact all of the time.

hey ok !! easy tiger :-) im not saying your making one bit of it up, im just saying that its the first ive ever heard of an office saying we dont deliver packages its company policy. in fact anyone i know would get a really good ear bashing and slap on the knuckles if a customer rang in and complained them for doing something like that over and over again.

Orando Broom

My Niece had her birthday card opened whilst it was in the charge of An Post and the money taken out. I am not sure where it was sent from (I think it was Dublin address to dublin address)

I know it's asking for trouble when people send money in envelopes but still I though it was a real scumbags turn.

Surely there should be some way of stamping the card to prevent the card being opened and thus you can follow An Post for damages if the seal/stam is broken/torn.

I am personally loathe to send anything of value in the post. I try to hand deliver where possible.

HarryPotter41

ShadowGal wrote: »

are you a postie ?

No, but find my dealings with my own postman great and I always get my parcels even if I am not at home.

HarryPotter41

knird evol wrote: »

The post man admits himself he didn't ring the door bell.

Who is disagreeing with you? I said knock on the door.

knird evol

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

Who is disagreeing with you? I said knock on the door.

Who is disagreeing with you? He didn't ring the door bell.

starbelgrade

knird evol wrote: »

Who is disagreeing with you? He didn't ring the door bell.

Yes he did.

The postman always rings twice.

mikemac

Orando Broom wrote: »

Surely there should be some way of stamping the card to prevent the card being opened and thus you can follow An Post for damages if the seal/stam is broken/torn.

There is, it's called registered post
I use it when sending bank drafts in the post.
You declare the value to An Post

ShadowGal

Orando Broom wrote: »

My Niece had her birthday card opened whilst it was in the charge of An Post and the money taken out. I am not sure where it was sent from (I think it was Dublin address to dublin address)

I know it's asking for trouble when people send money in envelopes but still I though it was a real scumbags turn.

Surely there should be some way of stamping the card to prevent the card being opened and thus you can follow An Post for damages if the seal/stam is broken/torn.

I am personally loathe to send anything of value in the post. I try to hand deliver where possible.

theres a form you can fill out if something like that happens, and you can claim up to 200 euro (i may be a little wrong on the amount) for anything missing. in saying that im under no illusions that this probably take forever to get sorted

HarryPotter41

knird evol wrote: »

Who is disagreeing with you? He didn't ring the door bell.

So if he knocked on the door he tried to see if there was anyone home, not a hope proving otherwise ina small claims court.

Orando Broom

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

So if he knocked on the door he tried to see if there was anyone home, not a hope proving otherwise ina small claims court.

He could have kicked the door in.

Roadhouse.

melekalikimaka

they always claim to knock in my house too, utter bull, fact, caught them doing it twice...

phil1nj

tman wrote: »

I know this isn't ranting and raving, but I feel like joining in here...

Had to phone An Post customer service to try to figure out wtf happened to my Glastonbury ticket (international registered post which has to be signed for) a few days before I was due to go;

Me - Online tracking shows that this was delivered and signed for... Could you tell me who actually signed for it??
Her - Oh. We didn't get a signature for it...

I had to spend an HOUR literally running around the perimeter of the Glastonbury site to get to the ticket office before they closed for the night, in order to get my replacement ticket.
I've never really vented about this, but thanks a bunch you fupping incompetent twits!

A similar situation happened to me but in reverse, I sent concert tickets via registered post to a chap in Cork who unbeknownest to myself, had decided to head off on a weeks holiday on the Monday I posted them. I used the An Post tracking website and saw that delivery had been attempted on Tuesday and that the tickets were at the local post office branch, awaiting collection.

On Saturday the status of the letter had changed to "return to sender" due to non-collection. I called An Post at the start of the following week because there was no return address on the letter and so I did not know what would happen to the undelivered tickets. The lady in customer service arranged for the letters to be redelivered and by this time the guy was back from his holliers. He got his tickets and there was no unpleasentness.

I suppose you can only speak as you find but I've never had an issue with An Post and parcel delivery.

Osgoodisgood

knird evol wrote: »

Also for the OP, there is no way the guy knocked. He does this for a living he would use the doorbell. What he did was just stuck the note in the door. Probably didn't bother his hole bringing the package with him.

And he would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for these pesky kids!
Well done Fred, you've rumbled the villain and his dastardly plans.

Or you made up some stuff in order to get all angsty

After collecting it tomorrow make sure and demand a refund for postage and packaging costs from An Post. Mention that we can resolve the issue in the small claims court if they're having any confusion about it.

I'm guessing that'll have their legal team cr@pping themselves! Are you sure you want to put them through that sort of pain?

knird evol

HarryPotter41 wrote: »

So if he knocked on the door he tried to see if there was anyone home, not a hope proving otherwise ina small claims court.

Prove what in Court? He has admitted he didn't ring.
There is a minimum standard required in any task to do it. Half doing a job is the same as not doing it at all. He could say he stood at the top of the road and shouted 'yoo hoo, OP, i have some mail for you' That doesn't qualify as a professional discharge of his duty to perform a delivery that he is being well paid for.
Any professional courier with ring your door bell. Give you a chance to answer. Ring again and possibly a third time.
Since there is no plausible reason for the post man to not have hit the bell in this case on the balance of probability we can conclude he did not call at all. You talk about proof. He certainly can't prove his spurious claim to have knocked.
In court they work on the balance of probability. I think here when the post man himself admits he didn't even try the bell once, the balance of probability is that he made no effort at all to see if anyone was in.
Also we all know - he didn't even have the package with him - so cut the bull****.

irelandrover

knird evol wrote: »

Prove what in Court? He has admitted he didn't ring.
There is a minimum standard required in any task to do it. Half doing a job is the same as not doing it at all. He could say he stood at the top of the road and shouted 'yoo hoo, OP, i have some mail for you' That doesn't qualify as a professional discharge of his duty to perform a delivery that he is being well paid for.
Any professional courier with ring your door bell. Give you a chance to answer. Ring again and possibly a third time.
Since there is no plausible reason for the post man to not have hit the bell in this case on the balance of probability we can conclude he did not call at all. You talk about proof. He certainly can't prove his spurious claim to have knocked.
In court they work on the balance of probability. I think here when the post man himself admits he didn't even try the bell once, the balance of probability is that he made no effort at all to see if anyone was in.
Also we all know - he didn't even have the package with him - so cut the bull****.

Does he have to ring a bell? Is this the rules of parcel delivery. What about houses that don't have bells? I presume they are not allowed have parcels delivered to them.

knird evol

I'm guessing that'll have their legal team cr@pping themselves! Are you sure you want to put them through that sort of pain?

I'll drop the lawsuit, if they give me all copies of the video of me, the hooker and the ferret. And I want some free stamps.

Lab_Mouse

clived2 wrote: »

was the fleshlight worth it?

Probably till he accidently the fleshlight

Osgoodisgood

knird evol wrote: »

I'll drop the lawsuit, if they give me all copies of the video of me, the hooker and the ferret. And I want some free stamps.

Too late. The ferret squealed. Sold his story to the News of the World. Turns out he wasn't even a ferret, it was a russian mink posing as a westerner in order to scam the Paddies.

And if I were you I'd avoid licking any stamps your local postie might give you.

knird evol

irelandrover wrote: »

Does he have to ring a bell? Is this the rules of parcel delivery. What about houses that don't have bells? I presume they are not allowed have parcels delivered to them.

Is there rules of parcel delivery? Yes. Rule 27 part B, "if there is a bell provided you must ring it"

Sunnyisland

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roboshatner

I have to say I think what you said is a bit much.

It is not the drivers fault that you didnt hear him knock on the door while you were busy.

There are a lot of an post workers on this site I'm sure.

Go easy an post sort a lot of letters ever year and they should be thanked.

kyub wrote: »

So I've been waiting on a delivery from An Post since Friday. I took the day off work today to receive delivery and got up early. I went upstairs to sort some clothes out at about 11:20am and came down at 11:45am to find that An Post had attempted delivery at 11:30am.

I immediately rang them and a kind lady in Customer Support rang the driver. Apparently he had knocked on the door 3 times, seen the curtains were closed and then put the notice in the door. The driver does not believe in doorbells for some reason.

So... I've to wait another day for my delivery (which cost me 30 Euro) and will have to get a taxi to the collection depot myself which will probably cost me another 30 Euro or more.

An Post drivers are overpaid, useless idiotic *****.

sbsquarepants

starbelgrade wrote: »

I live in a nice country area where the neighbours are trustworthy and where everyone knows the postman by name & he knows yours.

No-one would try to burst a postman who goes out of his way for you.

And some people still think that living in the sticks is uncivilised.

Round my way people trying the doors of cars only very rarely leaving parcels there! I've never even seen my postman, much less talked to him.
But i must admit, i think your way is better.

Copper23

kyub wrote: »

So I've been waiting on a delivery from An Post since Friday. I took the day off work today to receive delivery and got up early. I went upstairs to sort some clothes out at about 11:20am and came down at 11:45am to find that An Post had attempted delivery at 11:30am.

I immediately rang them and a kind lady in Customer Support rang the driver. Apparently he had knocked on the door 3 times, seen the curtains were closed and then put the notice in the door. The driver does not believe in doorbells for some reason.

So... I've to wait another day for my delivery (which cost me 30 Euro) and will have to get a taxi to the collection depot myself which will probably cost me another 30 Euro or more.

An Post drivers are overpaid, useless idiotic *****.

Eh, Why didn't you just answer your door when he knocked?

Yeah, he must have been some idiot, I mean, he only tried 3 times despite the house being made look like nobody was home... I usually wait several hours outside someone's house.

Sure he probably should have used his x-ray vision to see through the closed curtains.

Or used his thermo-ray gun to find activity somewhere in the house.

Actually now come to think of it... he must have been totally useless... What a cheek he had to knock on your door 3 times and after no answer and no sign of life, to leave a message saying he had your package when you got your ass in gear.

What an even bigger idiot he must have been to go about his day and deliver all those other packages which people could be arsed to answer for, he probably should have camped out at your door for the day, maybe even the weekend and delivered everyone else's packages "on time" on Monday.

Someone is useless and overpaid here but I don't think its the postman.

Kur4mA

I'm pretty sure the person that invented the doorbell made their millions for a reason. Knocking does not ****ing work. Unfortunately for An Post, I'm not a bat and do not pick up miniscule sonar waves or knocks on my front door when I'm not standing next to it.

Kimono-Girl

Now this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXafx3oBzr0

is a damn good postal system!:D


Edit: just remember to leave your window open!

Balfie

this is relevant right now cause they lost a parcel that I was supposed to get, they have no idea where its gone,

Craven99

starbelgrade wrote: »

The postman knocked on the door. No-one answered. He left a note to say the parcel could be collected.

Not his fault that the OP was sorting out his knickers & didn't open the curtains.

If anyone was lacking common sense, it certainly wasn't the postie.

Ah now come on - you are delivering a package and you don't try the door bell?

General Zod

why not get the parcel delivered to work?

Copper23

Thats ridiculous....
Most doorbells don't even work or you can't hear them from outside you don't even know.

2 knocks on the door is standard practice... if there's no answer they are entitled to leave the attempted delivery note and be on their way.

You do realise that there was probably a lot of other mail to be delivered that day to people who cared to answer their door.

I don't get the point of this. The postman did NOTHING wrong... you didn't hear a knock on your door because you were busy elsewhere... it's probably annoying, it's probably murphys law but its nobodies fault but your own.

tampopo

Copper23 wrote: »

Thats ridiculous....
Most doorbells don't even work or you can't hear them from outside you don't even know.

2 knocks on the door is standard practice... if there's no answer they are entitled to leave the attempted delivery note and be on their way.

You do realise that there was probably a lot of other mail to be delivered that day to people who cared to answer their door.

I don't get the point of this. The postman did NOTHING wrong... you didn't hear a knock on your door because you were busy elsewhere... it's probably annoying, it's probably murphys law but its nobodies fault but your own.

yeah, I agree with this. I'd hate to carry a package around with me all day if I could get rid of it at a house. Lots of doorbells don't work. Knocking is foolproof, guaranteed to work. This postman did the right thing.
They carry small packets, drivers carry heavy or bulky things.

Have to admit I never had an issue with An Post at all (though Revenue are another matter altogether!).

I don't think we get the same post man all the time, though. I see him the odd time, and I admit I'm no good with faces or names or anything, but I've never really recognised him to be honest.

The Depot is only a fifteen minute walk away from me, so it's not too bad to go and collect a parcel if I miss the Post man, though I never had them drop the 'missed parcel' notice without trying.


As far as I'm concerned they're excellent. Really do a great job. Of course, this varies from area to area (I'm in Drogheda, Louth) but I've no complaints at all.

citizen_p

always been good for me.... no letters ever gone missing yet and all arrive in good condition (not bent, wet etc....)


only thing i hate is them not delivering in the snow and the fact that when they cant bring the post, they bring it further away back to the depot instead of the local post office. -_-
but snow is usually once or twice yearly and they usually try redeliever when the snow has passed.

longhalloween

An Post are one of the best services in this country. Never had any problems with them.

All the 'estimated delivery' times I get from UK and America websites are always beaten as once the item gets to Ireland An Post has it to my door within 48 hours and anything I send to anywhere in Ireland gets the same treatment.

I never have any problems giving them money because they deserve every penny.

Its not their fault they don't deliver at the weekend and its your fault you weren't around to answer the door. In fairness, if he had left it at the doorstep and it was robbed you'd be complaining more. At least you know where your post is and that its safe.

It could be much worse.

ladysarastro

My post man is forever cramming my packages into the slot and leaving them half hanging out. I live in an apartment block and anyone walking past could pull them back out. Then it'd be bye bye to my make up deliveries!!!!

HarryPotter41

kyub wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the person that invented the doorbell made their millions for a reason. Knocking does not ****ing work. Unfortunately for An Post, I'm not a bat and do not pick up miniscule sonar waves or knocks on my front door when I'm not standing next to it.

So lets recap, you took a day off to get a parcel, I assume the post would come within a certain time frame every day so therefore you would have an idea what time he would be delivering at. So you went upstairs within that time frame sorting clothes. Which wasn't what you took the day off for. While the reason you took the day off was knocking on the door. And its all the postmans fault. Fascinating.

Just for the record, I have no doorbell, and it is a very rare thing for me to miss someone knocking on my door. I knock on most doors because you can never tell if the doorbell works, and would you believe, my friends let me in. When they hear the knocking on the door.

phasers

My postman is cool, he cleverly conceals my parcels under my doormat and locks the porch. Only once did I have to go and collect from the collection place (which is right across the road) :cool:

Copper23

ladysarastro wrote: »

My post man is forever cramming my packages into the slot and leaving them half hanging out. I live in an apartment block and anyone walking past could pull them back out. Then it'd be bye bye to my make up deliveries!!!!

Yeah, thats annoying, if he was any good he would take it back to the depot with him and leave a delivery note. Maybe knock twice just to check if you were there.

lamai

kyub wrote: »

So I've been waiting on a delivery from An Post since Friday. I took the day off work today to receive delivery and got up early. I went upstairs to sort some clothes out at about 11:20am and came down at 11:45am to find that An Post had attempted delivery at 11:30am.

I immediately rang them and a kind lady in Customer Support rang the driver. Apparently he had knocked on the door 3 times, seen the curtains were closed and then put the notice in the door. The driver does not believe in doorbells for some reason.

So... I've to wait another day for my delivery (which cost me 30 Euro) and will have to get a taxi to the collection depot myself which will probably cost me another 30 Euro or more.

An Post drivers are overpaid, useless idiotic *****.

Great news:)

OPENROAD

Mousey- wrote: »

always been good for me.... no letters ever gone missing yet and all arrive in good condition (not bent, wet etc....)


only thing i hate is them not delivering in the snow and the fact that when they cant bring the post, they bring it further away back to the depot instead of the local post office. -_-
but snow is usually once or twice yearly and they usually try redeliever when the snow has passed.

Know we don't get snow often, but do they not deliver during the snow? can't recall from last year.

Coriolanus

Our village shop takes all the package that can't be delivered. Dead handy.

Nevore

Nevore wrote: »

Our village shop takes all the package that can't be delivered.

And then sells them off? :pac:

senordingdong

Nevore wrote: »

Our village shop takes all the package that can't be delivered. Dead handy.

That's very good of them but this really shouldn't be happening, An Post should really be better equipped to deal with the slight, impossible-as-it-may-be chance that someone will at work and unable to recieve their package.

Coriolanus

bluewolf wrote: »

And then sells them off? :pac:

Yeah. They never can find a buyer for my "toys" though so at least I always get them back.

Coriolanus

senordingdong wrote: »

That's very good of them but this really shouldn't be happening, An Post should really be better equipped to deal with the slight, impossible-as-it-may-be chance that someone will at work and unable to recieve their package.

Well, course they could leave a note and have me pick the item up. In another county, in a building that's only open while I work...
I much prefer the shopkeeper holding stuff. It's something I think any small community should look into.

Craven99