Ucd Arts

RandomName2

' Hey, hey, lavatory attendant; the lavatory paper dispenser says "Arts Degree - Please Take One" but I can't get any paper from it'

'Or yeah, it's like a coin operated lavatory, only you have to insert 6,000 euro, 36 exam scripts, and around 144,000 written words (of decent quality!) relating to various themes.'

' Oh. That's not terribly funny'

' I know.'

antomorro-sei

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

RandomName2

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

There are dark days for all us arts students when we say

'Yah but in reality I don't have skill to be employed, do I? Hay Mister employer, youwannahearabout Marx?'

Remember to keep the faith! Arts gives you a much better grounding than any specialised degree. Even our science comrades have no specific job lined up from general science - they have to specialise to a serious extent to do that.

In terms of general skills relating to adaptive thinking there is nothing better than arts; the capacity to learn more, to work independently, to be erudite and well educated, to stand your ground when pushed and develop meaningful arguments and strong assessment.

Having said all that in the current economic climate were screwed.

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P.S. Is college open tomorrow?

P.P.S Sorry you wer asking about Geography specifically. 'Fraid its the same as most Arts subjects that it is well... arts. You don't really get many jobs specifying 'geographers'. You might be able to move into other fields such as nggggg... cartography (wow it genuinely hurt to say that seeing as I have google earth link right in front of me)... er... geology (you would have to do a whole course in it)... meterology (again another science course). Teaching? ...

delta_bravo

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

A B.A. can get you everywhere and nowhere. Arts won't give you a job. You have to find that for yourself. There is work available for graduates, its just a bit harder to find that in previous years.

antomorro-sei

RandomName2 wrote: »

There are dark days for all us arts students when we say

'Yah but in reality I don't have skill to be employed, do I? Hay Mister employer, youwannahearabout Marx?'

Remember to keep the faith! Arts gives you a much better grounding than any specialised degree. Even our science comrades have no specific job joned up from general science - they have to specialise to a serious extent to do that.

In terms of general skills relating to adaptive thinking there is nothing better than arts; the capacity to learn more, to work independently, to be erudite and well educated, to stand your ground when pushed and develop meaningful arguments and strong assessment.

Having said all that in the current economic climate were screwed.

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P.S. Is college open tomorrow?

P.P.S Sorry you wer asking about Geography specifically. 'Fraid its the same as most Arts subjects that it is well... arts. You don't really get many jobs specifying 'geographers'. You might be able to move into other fields such as nggggg... cartography (wow it genuinely hurt to say that seeing as I have google earth link right in front of me)... er... geology (you would have to do a whole course in it)... meterology (again another science course). Teaching? ...

Cheers. Yeah its closed tomorrow... http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056106568&page=2

Cartography sounds great. Draw maps all day

Seriously though, environmental studies or anything. Can that be done from Geography?

dyl10

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

There are careers out there in Geography. I fully intend to get one, I just may have to travel.
As DB said above, it's up to you at the end of the day.

antomorro-sei

dyl10 wrote: »

There are careers out there in Geography. I fully intend to get one, I just may have to travel.
As DB said above, it's up to you at the end of the day.

Aye. So guess the best option is to do an MA in Geog and then go find yourself a career?

dyl10

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Aye. So guess the best option is to do an MA in Geog and then go find yourself a career?

Depends what exactly you are interested in.

I believe Maynooth have a really good masters in GIS and Remote Sensing, its part funded by the EU so it is pretty cheap (€2000 I think)
Maynooth is a good place to look in general for Geography specialisation.

Geography is broad, so working out what it is in Geography that you like is important, maybe the MA will help you do that.

Chucky the tree

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

Is anyone doing ECON10010 Principles of Micro-economics? I'm finding it tough enough, especially understanding how a lot of the graphs are drawn. Sometimes it's hard to know even where the figures come from!

If you have never done it before it can be very difficult but if you stick with it's grand. For the exam just keep doing the previous exam papers as a lot of the same questions re appear.

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Try quantative economics

It's not looking good for me in the upcoming exam. How much and whats the procedure for repeating? (Just in case)

Macroeconomics on the other hand is a piece of piss. Should get a B.
Have microeconomics to look forward to next semester.

Quantative again has a lot of the same stuff that comes up most years on the exam. Even start doing 1 part of 1 question a night for half an hour you will pass it.

Pigwidgeon

meathawk wrote: »

This isn't to bash arts, I mean I couldn't imagine studying anything else. One point I'd like to make is that if you enter DN012 like I did, even if you know people entering it aswell but doing different subjects, it's a very lonely course I find. Music, seems like a very sociable subject but sociology ironically is the loneliest subject. It consists of isolated 3-4 person cliques everywhere and if you aren't in social science, the social aspect is non-existant. The tutorials aren't worth marks anymore so people tend not to turn up.

Ate you me? I could have written this word for word. At least there is a class rep for sociology this year I suppose, although I haven't gone to any of the parties because I don't really know many people in he class and don't want to show up alone.

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

unknown13

kateos2 wrote: »

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

No, it ain't.

Pigwidgeon

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

I meant the people I'd gotten to know.

parker kent

kateos2 wrote: »

Ate you me? I could have written this word for word. At least there is a class rep for sociology this year I suppose, although I haven't gone to any of the parties because I don't really know many people in he class and don't want to show up alone.

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

More people should send group emails to classes such as yours suggesting nights out/events for the class. A guy did that very early in one of my classes a few years ago (around 120 people, so not exactly the same as Sociology but still sizeable) and he organised a night out for everybody. It was a great idea and we all made much more friends than we would otherwise have done. Sure beats sitting in a lecture with 2 empty seats either side of you.

A simple email suggesting a few possible dates and maybe an option for an online vote to see what date suits everybody could make a big difference to everybody. I'd suggest it to your class rep if I were you!

Fad

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

There is a very high proportion of science in it....

Science and Social Science seem to make up the bulk of it.

SarcasticFairy

kateos2 wrote: »

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

There's loads of social science students in it, too! They're lovely We're gonna have some sort of re-training/extra training/generally outlining goals for the second semester thing next year - you should get to know the SS people! They might not do sociology through arts, but they'll still probably be in some/most of your classes

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

In fairness, there's hardly a lack of science students... I'm almost certain there's more science than social science, though it'd be fairly close. There's a good few from Law/B&L/Commerce, and a small amount from arts, and then some random-course people, but the bulk of the welfare crew is made up of science and social science people! Not that it really matters, in any case - once you're done with the whole, introducing yourself thing, nobody really cares/asks what you do

minichunkies

I was looking into Geography and archaeology and that type of thing myself. Isn't it better to take two closely related topics rather than say taking Geography with English?

Mardy Bum

Ray Foley wrote: »

I was looking into Geography and archaeology and that type of thing myself. Isn't it better to take two closely related topics rather than say taking Geography with English?

Its all relative. It depends what you want to do. Are you doing Arts for a job later or are you doing it for an interest in the subjects? If you want to do teaching do subjects which can be thought. If you want to do something geographical do the obvious ones. If you are really interested in two very different subjects do them and see what happens.

HavingCrack

Anyone else done or doing the Fluvial Geomorphology module for 2nd year Geography?? I'm just finding it really difficult to study and I have no problems in any other Geography modules :mad:.

Lou45

HavingCrack wrote: »

Anyone else done or doing the Fluvial Geomorphology module for 2nd year Geography?? I'm just finding it really difficult to study and I have no problems in any other Geography modules :mad:.

In the exact same position, actually screwed for that exam even having all the notes etc!!! Raging we didn't have that last lecture, so many people were relying on it!

antomorro-sei

I'm doing Fluvial Geomorphology too. Be happy with a C in it, even though I'm doing a fair bit of study for it, and been to the vast majority of the lectures!

Political Geography - now, I'm fooked for that

muffinz

Ray Foley wrote: »

I was looking into Geography and archaeology and that type of thing myself. Isn't it better to take two closely related topics rather than say taking Geography with English?

Im studying Arch & Geog atm, and can safely say they pretty much dont intersect at all. :pac: I thought the same thing as you, that one would help the other, but they dont really! Not enough to help you in exams anyway

Anyways.. Anyone here doing the Exploring Arch 10010 module here? Totally ****ed for the test!

Fluorescence

Friend of mine is also doing the geography and archaeology combo. I think she finds it pretty tough, but enjoyable.

kev9100

Anyone hear do Modern Europe? That exam will NOT be enjoyable.

Scrambled egg

kev9100 wrote: »

Anyone hear do Modern Europe? That exam will NOT be enjoyable.

Agreed , absolutely dreading this one more than most. Do you get the feeling we're just being thrown into it without any decent instructions on what to do?

kev9100

Scrambled egg wrote: »

Agreed , absolutely dreading this one more than most. Do you get the feeling we're just being thrown into it without any decent instructions on what to do?

A little. I think I should be ok for the later modern stuff but for early modern I'm in BIG trouble if witches don't come up. Do you remember the first lecturer? He really wasn't the best.

Scrambled egg

kev9100 wrote: »

A little. I think I should be ok for the later modern stuff but for early modern I'm in BIG trouble if witches don't come up. Do you remember the first lecturer? He really wasn't the best.

Yeah that guy was a bit of a disaster. Mostly talked into his notes more than anything else. Something tells me this exam is going to have a strong smell of waffles off it.

Zephyr91

Yeah I basically came into this thread just to say the same thing about Modern Europe History...dunno how we're supposed to prepare for it properly. And I have spoken to loads of people about this and everyone seems to agree.

Offside

Anyone doing comparative Politics 2? Any ideas what to study? They havent given us much of an idea!

antomorro-sei

Offside wrote: »

Anyone doing comparative Politics 2? Any ideas what to study? They havent given us much of an idea!

Yeah. Check out the past exam papers. They should be of some help to ya.

alois

Offside wrote: »

Anyone doing comparative Politics 2? Any ideas what to study? They havent given us much of an idea!

i'm not sure about past papers, they said themselves they wouldn't be much use with the exam this year being based on a different core book... textbook is your best bet