Current Population of Galway City

Sponge Bob

Limerick officially has about the same population now as it did in 1961.

Limerick City, the 'urbanisation' is bigger than Galway, not much bigger like it once was but bigger.

Lots of it is in Clare or Limerick counties, same problem with Waterford and Kilkenny.

Galways boundary was redrawn in the 1980s by adding bits all around comprising the townlands of Coolagh, Curragrean and Doughiska in the district electoral division of Ballintemple; the townland of Ballindooly in the district electoral division of Carrowbrowne; the townlands of Ballybaan Beg, Ballybaan More, Ballybrit, Castlegar, Coolagh, Glenanail, Menlough, Merlinpark, Murroogh, Parkmore, Rahylin Glebe, Roscam, Ballagh, Barnacranny, Bushypark, Dangan Lower, Letteragh and Rahoon in the district electoral division of Galway Rural; and the townlands of Ballyburke, Ballymoneen East, Ballymoneen West, Ballynahown East, Barna, Cappagh, Cloonagower, Clybaun, Keeraun, Kimmeenmore, Lenabower, Mincloon, Shanballyduff, Shangort, Acres, Derryloney, Gortnalecka, Knocknacarragh, Pollnaroorna West and Rusheen in the district electoral division of Barna.......because the City and County agreed on it,

Limerick is well overdue a redraw, the last one was in 1950. It should have a population of somewhere over 90,000 by rights.

Lapin

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

Is a fairly tough question to answer OP,CSO stats dont tell the whole story, while the city itself has roughly 75-80k the commuter belt is huge for a city its size. Tuam, Athenry, the 'wesht' maybe even Loughrea and Gort could be concidered within the area of influence......

None of those towns are factored into the population living in Galway City which is defined as a county borough and is located within the confines of the areas outlined by Sponge Bob ^^^.

They are all counted in the census as towns in their own merit.

However, as these towns (among others) do provide a large number of commuters to Galway, it is true that the daytime population of the city is significantly greater than the number of people living there.

This is what the planners don't seem to understand.

ciotog

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Then they join the greens and an taisce and take it out on everybody else.

Possibly true though I do encounter an taisce people who are actually doing things that contribute to the quality of life (I'm not talking about blocking development - I'm thinking of things like Green Schools). Equally there are those who are involved with neither yet whinge and complain about the foreigners, foreign shops, x event not being good enough for them all the while not getting involved in any way themselves.

Sponge Bob

Lapin wrote: »

However, as these towns (among others) do provide a large number of commuters to Galway, it is true that the daytime population of the city is significantly greater than the number of people living there.

This is what the planners don't seem to understand.

There appears to be quite a lot of reverse commuting as well, many teachers who work in places like Connemara Mayo Roscommon and Clare commute OUT from Galway daily.

These need to be netted off against the inbounds.

Howver defining Gort Tuam Loughrea and Oughterard largely as commuter towns for Galway is correct.

ozalseker

the population will be 1 less.I am leaving the country

Lapin

Sponge Bob wrote: »

There appears to be quite a lot of reverse commuting as well, many teachers who work in places like Connemara Mayo Roscommon and Clare commute OUT from Galway daily.

Very true.

But a quick glance at the flow of traffic on the roads around Galway in the mornings will show that the vast majority it is moving in one direction.

Sponge Bob

Lapin wrote: »

But a quick glance at the flow of traffic on the roads around Galway in the mornings will show that the vast majority it is moving in one direction.

The commuter belts were logged in the lst census and analysed since, this is called POWCAR data

http://airo.ie/theme/transport/mapped-outputs/14/563?title_sort=unsorted&field_scale_value_sort=DESC&field_year_value_sort=ASC&scale=Republic%20of%20Ireland

topper75

If Galway was treated like Limerick, then Knocknacarra, Salthill, Headford Road, and Ballybane etc wouldn't even be considered part of Galway city.

Limerick currently has an edge on Galway in terms of extent of urbanization (check out Google maps) and in terms of population.

Long term, Galway's capacity to grow is seriously limited by physical issues such as the impossibility to build a southern ring road and the fact that the approach from all other cities is through one channel in the east. Limerick's growth blockers are political only.

snubbleste

topper75 wrote: »

If Galway was treated like Limerick, then Knocknacarra, Salthill, Headford Road, and Ballybane etc wouldn't even be considered part of Galway city.
Limerick currently has an edge on Galway in terms of extent of urbanization (check out Google maps) and in terms of population.
Long term, Galway's capacity to grow is seriously limited by physical issues such as the impossibility to build a southern ring road and the fact that the approach from all other cities is through one channel in the east. Limerick's growth blockers are political only.

Galway is different.

Mrs OBumble

topper75 wrote: »

Long term, Galway's capacity to grow is seriously limited by physical issues such as the impossibility to build a southern ring road and the fact that the approach from all other cities is through one channel in the east. Limerick's growth blockers are political only.

Galway's major industrial base is in medical devices.

What's Limerick's? (quasi-medical substances? )

Eman Resu

JustMary wrote: »

Galway's major industrial base is in medical devices.

What's Limerick's? (quasi-medical substances? )

If it's reputation is to be believed, creating the need for medical devices?

topper75

JustMary wrote: »

Galway's major industrial base is in medical devices.

What's Limerick's? (quasi-medical substances? )

Limerick has been on the ropes countless of times before and bounced back. The economic history of the city is littered with loads of pre-Dell examples - Wang, AST, Ferenka, Ranks, Limerick Clothing Company, Taits etc.

Why isn't Galway's "major industrial base", as you put it, mopping up people from the not insignificant welfare queues? Probably not everyone has the capacity to be bio-scientists. If getting to work in a recession is this nuts in the morning, we better pray there is never another boom in Galway, whatever the industry.:D

topper75

Eman Resu wrote: »

If it's reputation is to be believed, creating the need for medical devices?

Reputations are decided by Dublin media. Dublin media who enjoy some messy beers falling down Shop St. but who don't enjoy watching their rugby team being driven back over their own line by a working class opposition pack.

If someone deals/takes drugs in Galway, they are a hippy. With the same thing in Limerick, they are a scumbag.

Careful with those reputations Eugene.

Robbo

topper75 wrote: »

Reputations are decided by Dublin media. Dublin media who enjoy some messy beers falling down Shop St. but who don't enjoy watching their rugby team being driven back over their own line by a working class opposition pack.

If someone deals/takes drugs in Galway, they are a hippy. With the same thing in Limerick, they are a scumbag.

Careful with those reputations Eugene.

I've noticed this kind of posting of late where there's a perceived Dublin-based anti-Limerick bias in the media. Is Limerick twinned with Liverpool by any chance?

Eman Resu

topper75 wrote: »

Reputations are decided by Dublin media. Dublin media who enjoy some messy beers falling down Shop St. but who don't enjoy watching their rugby team being driven back over their own line by a working class opposition pack.

If someone deals/takes drugs in Galway, they are a hippy. With the same thing in Limerick, they are a scumbag.

Careful with those reputations Eugene.

That's why the statement began with an if, and who's Eugene?

yermanoffthetv

topper75 wrote: »

Long term, Galway's capacity to grow is seriously limited by physical issues such as the impossibility to build a southern ring road and the fact that the approach from all other cities is through one channel in the east. Limerick's growth blockers are political only.

I dont really agree with that. I know most of the city center is not really feasible for development but the docklands is due for major overhaul and south of the railway line around Renmore could be realclaimed. You could provide access to this from the Roscam roundabout.The Ardaun area is surrounded on 3 sides by dualcarrigeways. Galway bypass would help solve the gridlock round Doughiska.

I would argue that Galways growth blockers are political aswell. Galways problem is density, or lack there of. The council sh*t bricks when CIE wanted to put 2 16 story towers in the Ceant station redevelopment.They are militanty opposed to anything not shaped like a bungalow or a roundabout. There isnt the critical mass to needed provied the high frequency public transport Galway so desperately needs. Result is that Galway is congested diffuse collection of housing estates and retail parks with a core that cannot expand to meet growing needs.

JupiterKid

yermanoffthetv wrote: »

I dont really agree with that. I know most of the city center is not really feasible for development but the docklands is due for major overhaul and south of the railway line around Renmore could be realclaimed. You could provide access to this from the Roscam roundabout.The Ardaun area is surrounded on 3 sides by dualcarrigeways. Galway bypass would help solve the gridlock round Doughiska.

I would argue that Galways growth blockers are political aswell. Galways problem is density, or lack there of. The council sh*t bricks when CIE wanted to put 2 16 story towers in the Ceant station redevelopment.They are militanty opposed to anything not shaped like a bungalow or a roundabout. There isnt the critical mass to needed provied the high frequency public transport Galway so desperately needs. Result is that Galway is congested diffuse collection of housing estates and retail parks with a core that cannot expand to meet growing needs.

Completely agree with that. Galway city is far too low density and sprawls outwards too much. There needs to be much more infill and development of high density housing within the existing built fabric of the city.

Galway aslo needs its outer bypass to properly move forward. The city is chocked by traffic congestion. One reason for this is that the built fabric of the city is aligned East to West, with much of the population living in the West of the city squeezing over the river Corrib to work in the office parks and factories in the East of the city.

Finally, to got to the OP's question, I'd say that Galway has probably passed or is very close to the 80,000 mark. The city's population could reach 100,000 within a decade. However, another 80,000 could be accommmodated in the city if more thoughtful planning was adopted.

zell12

Census 2022 just released show Galway & suburbs has 85,910 - and density is 1500 persons per sq km (incredibly low!)

Add in Oranmore, Baile Chláir, Bearna, Moycullen and pop. is 97,976

Limerick City & suburbs has 102,287, and density of 1669 per sq km

dave 27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785616#Comment_120785616

Limerick City Metropolitan District is now 114,692. This is broken down into: Limerick City North 36,385. Limerick City West 38,654. Limerick City East 39,653. Easy to compare one figure to another but you need to go a bit deeper with that figure for Limerick, plenty areas not included too

Dexpat

I've posted this table that I've put this together based on the data in the latest census release, into a few of the regional forums. The methodology for measuring city and suburbs has changed since 2016. I've included the new methodology, built up urban areas (BUA), when showing percentage increases. It is not on a like for like basis to the 2016 'settlements' figure, but it gives an approximation of the increase.

Galway's urban area doesn't include Oranmore, Bearna etc. Limerick has had Annacotty and other small areas removed, which was included previously. Tramore's population of over 11,000 isn't included in Waterford's population. However all the new BUAs in the census are done on the same basis, so this will be the official figure used in future. The metro area populations are obviously higher.

Andrea B.

Regarding the term "graveyard of ambition" being used with respect to Galway.

I heard the reference more so in 80s and 90s in relation to Galway and individuals in traditional promotion chasing careers. For example; banks, civil service and guards.

The scenario whereby someone with ambition joined, got posted to Galway, for what should have been just a stepping stone period.

Marries, B&B on the side. Two fingers to that senior manager / chief-super posting in Athlone.

Wompa1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120790424#Comment_120790424

Was still in use before the 2008 collapse too.

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785616#Comment_120785616

Whatever about Oranmore and claregalway ?, adding in Moycullen has about as much credibility as including athenry

rustyfrog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120807603#Comment_120807603

Moycullan is pretty much the same distance to the city as Claregalway.

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120808291#Comment_120808291

It’s 13 Km to Eyre square , in no way can it be classed as part of the city surrounds

what_traffic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120808321#Comment_120808321

Would include it. Most Moycullen kids go to Secondary school in the City.

?Cee?view

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120809413#Comment_120809413

Agreed. Almost regardless of the distance, Moycullen is really a dormitory for Galway at this stage. Witness the traffic in and out of there most mornings and evenings.

zell12

A poster suggested Galway would have 100k pop by 2020, and Limerick has 102k now - hence threw in exurbs to extend the Galway figure, the growth is occurring outside city limits

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120809413#Comment_120809413

that goes for all villages without a secondary school, corrofin kids attend Tuam secondary school but no one is saying it’s part of Tuam

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120809547#Comment_120809547

That would make numerous villages eligible as they too have convoys of commuters heading for the city daily