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Speed camera fun....
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02-12-2010 12:34pm#1....now here's a bit of thinking outside the box. RSA take note.
I'd sign up - would you ?
Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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I can't see the video,
..eh ? A mod, 50k posts.....and you can't see a YouTube video ? Eh ?
On another note: my SO has just informed me traffic will increase. People will cruise, just to get their pick taken/entry into the lotto.
Damn. There's always One, isn't there ?
Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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..eh ? A mod, 50k posts.....and you can't see a YouTube video ? Eh ?
I'm assuming Victor is in work maybe?On another note: my SO has just informed me traffic will increase. People will cruise, just to get their pick taken/entry into the lotto.
Damn. There's always One, isn't there ?
The traffic may increase but if it's made public knowledge that the cars are only entered into the draw once, as opposed to however many times they drive by the camera... then that'd negate that issue.
Also, even if the 'lottery winner' gets only say.. 10% and the rest goes to the government. That would be incentive enough I think.0 -
I'm only slagging -ok Victor ?I'm assuming Victor is in work maybe?
Yeah, I know, it'd be easy to control really, but trust an Irish person to try and think of a way to shorten the odds.......:pThe traffic may increase but if it's made public knowledge that the cars are only entered into the draw once, as opposed to however many times they drive by the camera... then that'd negate that issue.
Also, even if the 'lottery winner' gets only say.. 10% and the rest goes to the government. That would be incentive enough I think.Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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While It is a brillant idea, I doubt it very much that RSA will not adopt it, It would be way outside their cosy narrow minded box.....now here's a bit of thinking outside the box. RSA take note.
I'd sign up - would you ?
They should put one of these at Pedestrians crossings and punish drivers there and reward good drivers. We would be in fantasyland if the RSA did that. Disneyland/Disney world/Eurodisney would apply it before the RSA would.0 -
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just for the record, the RSA point of view isRSA launched the Mess and Crash campaign to highlight the danger of speeding: Every time human error causes a road collision it is the speed of the vehicles which determines the outcome – whether someone lives or dies, or is maimed for life.
Speed is directly killing an average of 141 people a year in Ireland, but impacting over 500 road deaths a year, making speed the biggest contributing factor to road deaths in Ireland.
But research shows that a reduction in speed leads to a reduction in collisions. "We are committed to making our roads safer," says Assistant Chief Constable Roy Toner. "In the first three years of the Safety Camera Scheme, there has been a 41% reduction in the number of fatal or serious injury collisions."
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philkelly32 wrote: »defo a brilliant idea needs to be emailed to rsa
Email goes too fast for the RSA you need to send it via pigeon
On the idea, it sounds cool in general but is likely to have serious flaws that aren't addressed, like people jamming on coming up to it, people driving round and round to enter as much as possible, it looks like a distraction etc... but at least it shows show outside the box thinking.
And seeing as its outside the box the RSA will just be confused by it.0 -
....now here's a bit of thinking outside the box. RSA take note.
I'd sign up - would you ?
Nice idea, but there are some flaws as other have pointed out.
The most sensible thing they could do to prove speed cameras are not a money making scam is remove the fine aspect of a speeding offense. So when someone gets caught speeding they just get penalty points. There is no need for a fine whatsoever, penalty points are a big enough deterrant.0 -
just for the record, the RSA point of view is
"RSA launched the Mess and Crash campaign to highlight the danger of speeding: Every time human error causes a road collision it is the speed of the vehicles which determines the outcome – whether someone lives or dies, or is maimed for life.
Speed is directly killing an average of 141 people a year in Ireland, but impacting over 500 road deaths a year, making speed the biggest contributing factor to road deaths in Ireland.
But research shows that a reduction in speed leads to a reduction in collisions. "We are committed to making our roads safer," says Assistant Chief Constable Roy Toner. "In the first three years of the Safety Camera Scheme, there has been a 41% reduction in the number of fatal or serious injury collisions."
Complete nonsense - not you Robtri, but the link you quote. The fault with the above is the word 'speed'. As pointed out, 5km/h is a "speed". It is not the term as we use it generally around here, which is, specifically "exceeding the legally posted limit". This is a deliberate act - actually, imho, policy - of the RSA, as it deliberately obfuscates the issue, allowing them to add "A Speed" + "Breaking the legally posted Speed Limit" = "Speed Kills". And that equation, is completely false.
Given that, after an RTA, the GTC forensic guys work out the speeds involved, and include them in data, they quite often quote "exceeding the SAFE limit" - this is NOT the "legally posted limited". So, they can attribute a crash at 15kp/h into this category, and the RSA et al conveniently sweep this into the "speed" bin, as it's used to justify not only policy, but, frankly money. If they couldn't make speed the 'bad boy' they wouldn't be given the budget, you see.............aaahhh.....
edit 14:14hrs - I meant to add: they do this because, if you were to subtract all those accidents where they exceeded the posted limit, from the no of 'speed' accidents, the resultant much smaller number, would give lie to all that they profess.....[/edit]
The RSA's own figures for 'speed' as cause of accident is similarly tiny - it's actually between 5% and 10% iirc (don't have the no's to hand.....)
Now, the comment on speed camera's above........?....We Have An App Thread for That........already But I would make this quick point: the safest county in the UK is the one that............never had any speed camera's, and........if they are so fantastic......why is the UK switching them off ? Easy.........the money trail has gone cold. Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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jimmycrackcorm wrote: »Based on those stats it's obvious that the only solution is to give male drivers Hormone Replacement Therapy.
...or, someone to work their Hormone's on.....:D Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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One problem. People will game the system and make other people speed by vandalising speed limit signs.
They say its not so common.--Kaiser-- wrote: »Common sense 0 -
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