Why people don't clear the snow off their properties?

metrovelvet

seamus wrote: »

I cleared part of the path outside my house, but very few others did. With good reason too - nobody has a garden and therefore nobody has any garden tools!

I went around on Saturday to buy one, but every hardware in my area was sold out of spades, so I had to borrow one from my brother.

Lol I borrowed one from my three year old.

Galway K9

Be careful clearing snow guys.....if its not done properly (if someone falls on it after your clearing attempt) your liable where let council do it or leave as is then they're liable. I think.

Done mine again today, third time now in the last few days.

Cantona's Collars

Galway K9 wrote: »

Be careful clearing snow guys.....if its not done properly (if someone falls on it after your clearing attempt) your liable where let council do it or leave as is then they're liable. I think.

False: The government made an announcement about this last week.Nobody will be held liable for an accident if they clear outside their property.

backboiler

zerks wrote: »

False: The government made an announcement about this last week.Nobody will be held liable for an accident if they properly clear outside their property.

FYP in bold based on the ACTUAL quote from the Dáil last Wednesday:
http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2010-12-01.123.0#g226.0

Ifs and buts do not constitute a definitive answer.

seamus

Galway K9 wrote: »

Be careful clearing snow guys.....if its not done properly (if someone falls on it after your clearing attempt) your liable where let council do it or leave as is then they're liable. I think.

zerks wrote: »

False: The government made an announcement about this last week.Nobody will be held liable for an accident if they clear outside their property.

Discussion here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056108118

It's not cut-and-dried in either direction really.

Cantona's Collars

I hate the 'where there's blame,there's claim' mentality that has hit society,what happens if someone falls on a summers day-do they claim that outside your property was too warm? We all know ice is slippy and try to take care accordingly,the amount of people I've seen wearing the most unsuitable footwear is amazing.
Anyhow if there's no witnesses just slide them out onto the road and deny everything.:D

rubadub

zerks wrote: »

Anyhow if there's no witnesses just slide them out onto the road and deny everything.:D

Or just deny doing it, others have posted they did it for elderly neighbours, whats to stop you claiming somebody else did the deed.

The issue of liability does not arise for snow that is cleared in a safe manner. If a pavement is cleared in a manner that disposes of snow so as not to create any obstacle or hazard, there is no issue of liability. I think common sense prevails.

As said in that linked legal thread common sense has no place in courts! A seemingly clear area with a thin layer of ice could be more hazardous than an area obviously covered in snow/ice (as I nurse my hip from falling on such a patch last night!) If people with good intentions poured hot water down and created ice are they liable. If a person begins digging, puts in 2 hours work and is exhausted before they can finish -and leaves a big ice step people can trip on are they liable?

Cantona's Collars

Anyone that pours water on the ground in freezing temperatures is a moron and deserves a kick in the nuts.Just use salt people.

A Dub in Glasgo

I remember we used to pour buckets and buckets of water when we were younger in Dublin to run and slide, I suppose that tradition is gone then

thetonynator

zerks wrote: »

Anyone that pours water on the ground in freezing temperatures is a moron and deserves a kick in the nuts.Just use salt people.

Using just salt on a couple of cm of snow will do almost nothing. Use a spade/shovel or hot water to clear it, and THEN use salt to prevent refreezing.

Cantona's Collars

thetonynator wrote: »

Using just salt on a couple of cm of snow will do almost nothing. Use a spade/shovel or hot water to clear it, and THEN use salt to prevent refreezing.

That's what I meant,suppose I should have made it clearer.Assumed people know that you gotta clear the snow 1st.Sleet fell here today and froze,it's lethal,I spread dishwasher salt around the path at my door and it's fine thank god.The road where the snow is gone is another matter.