King Of Ireland

johngalway

We have enough useless over paid positions already, we need less not more, so no I don't support the idea.

Lauder

lcrcboy wrote: »

haha lauder is coming out to look like a bit of a muppet

Au contraire, I have been correct and accurate in my statements. Unlike you opening post, and stated question.

If you post a question here expect it to be answered accurately.

charlemont

Ye should head over to Lisbon and bring Hugo O Neill back and plant him on the throne at Tara....

lcrcboy

Lauder wrote: »

Au contraire, I have been correct and accurate in my statements. Unlike you opening post, and stated question.

If you post a question here expect it to be answered accurately.

I dont mind been given accurate infromation as a response but to go oh you dont know anything about Irish history was a sly knock, but besides that I would love to know how the Queens mother is connected to Brian Boru

Lauder

lcrcboy wrote: »

I dont mind been given accurate infromation as a response but to go oh you dont know anything about Irish history was a sly knock, but besides that I would love to know how the Queens mother is connected to Brian Boru

FYI: The late Queen Mother (Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon) is a direct descendant of Sir John Lyon (late 14th Century), Lord of Glamis (in Scotland). Sir John married Edward the Bruce's niece. Edward the Bruce was a maternal descendant of Brian Boru. Ipso facto the Queen Mum is related to Brian Boru. (as are probably half of the noble families of these islands.)

Burke's Peerage Article of Scottish noble lineage http://www.burkespeerage.com/store/scotland-Prelims.pdf

Krusader

Lauder wrote: »

Incorrect, Edward the Bruce was portrayed in Braveheart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n0Q8THJE60

I'll think you'll find that was Robert the Bruce, Eddie was his younger brother

lcrcboy

Lauder wrote: »

FYI: The late Queen Mother (Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon) is a direct descendant of Sir John Lyon (late 14th Century), Lord of Glamis (in Scotland). Sir John married Edward the Bruce's niece. Edward the Bruce was a maternal descendant of Brian Boru. Ipso facto the Queen Mum is related to Brian Boru. (as are probably half of the noble families of these islands.)

Burke's Peerage Article of Scottish noble lineage http://www.burkespeerage.com/store/scotland-Prelims.pdf

wow haha thats not some thing you here about that often when people talk about Brian Boru Id say that will piss alot of republicans off lol

Lauder

Crosáidí wrote: »

I'll think you'll find that was Robert the Bruce, Eddie was his younger brother

Fair enough, doesn't change the argument though - just the movie!

Note that Sir John Lyon married Edward the Bruce's niece, who was Robert's daughter.

Krusader

Lauder wrote: »

Fair enough, doesn't change the argument though - just the movie!

Note that Sir John Lyon married Edward the Bruce's niece, who was Robert's daughter.

not really, 'cause Edward Bruce wasn't the last king of Ireland sure he didn't even have any land in Ireland as far as i know, he went on a campaign with his brother the King of Scotland's support and Brian Ó Néill King of Tír Eoghain (the last elected high king) to claim Ireland for himself and failed

suicide_circus

lcrcboy wrote: »

haha not for some one who is studying business this is just random taught when I should be studying for exams

clearly not studying english anyway

CMpunked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ACXtS6FY8

Skip to 1.00.

TiGeR KiNgS

NO
we have enough Dole leaches, no need to add more.

TeddyTedson

RTE should do a show where they trace the descendants of the Kings of Ireland and we'll put them back in power. Then Link will appear...

deise go deo

A royal family? Why in the name of God would anyone in their right mind want to take orders from some twat who's daddy used to be in charge. This isent America.:rolleyes:

lugha

deise go deo wrote: »

A royal family? Why in the name of God would anyone in their right mind want to take orders from some twat who's daddy used to be in charge. This isent America.:rolleyes:

Brian. Brian. Mary. Enda. Olwyn. Mildred. etc. etc.

Sharkey 10

deise go deo wrote: »

A royal family? Why in the name of God would anyone in their right mind want to take orders from some twat who's daddy used to be in charge. This isent America.:rolleyes:

America ? I presume your reffering to the bushes , but they were democratically elected , well kind of . The kennedys are referred to as the royal family of america , damn plastic paddys

PeterIanStaker

We have enough toothless, dumb, inbred, braindead f*cks in this country, why would you need royalty?

Hells Belle

Crosáidí wrote: »

Edward the Bruce wasn't the High King, he failed in his bid to claim thr throne, he was more of a self-proclaimed King, the 3 families probably with the biggest claim to it would be
The O'Briens
The O'Neills
The O'Connors

I'm O'Brien, my Nan is O'Neill so do I win? I also live next door to an O'Connor. I was knew I was born to be royalty, I'm not liking this serf lifestyle at all.

We were a dynasty at one stage :mad::pac:

fontanalis

Bow to your King, plebs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingoftory.jpg

Killer Pigeon

lcrcboy wrote: »

If Brian Boru had not been killed and left king of Ireland without later interference from the British and other Irish kings do you think his family would still be in power in Ireland would we have a monarchy state or would they be like the British royal family and just a symbol of the sate.
Would you support having a Irish royal family or be against it??

Ill put in a poll aswell for the hell of it

Technically Ireland still has a "royal family" per sa. The O'Conor-Dons of Clonalis House in Co. Roscommon are direct descendants of the last High King of Ireland - Ruaidrí Ua Conchobair. You could say that they technically are heirs to the thrown of Ireland. A man named Desmond O'Conor-Don is actually the heir to the title 'King' or 'High-King of Ireland'.

http://www.clonalis.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Conor_Don

MingulayJohnny

RMD wrote: »

Even if Boru hadn't been killed the British would have eventually colonized Ireland. Think about it, they ruled a huge amount of the known world and were at 1 point the strongest empire worldwide. Colonies extending from America to India. I think it's safe to say at one point or another they certainly would have taken over Ireland, regardless who was in charge.

There is no way we could have ever properly resisted the British army, we could have certainly caused them some trouble like the war of independence, but we could definitely never have completely resisted them.

Tragically you're right. The British were coming here no matter what. But then we wouldn't have the sad songs and the underdog spirit . There's a number of possibilities in relation to what alternative scenarios could have played out. I'm always dubious about stories of glorious heroes , I'm too wary of it being propaganda and spin. But alas we can only speculate. I'd imagine life could be tough on the island but the huge native forest and pagan freedom would have been amazing. Nothing that's that good ever lasts unfortunately. They had to follow us over and spoil the fun .

fontanalis

MingulayJohnny wrote: »

Tragically you're right. The British were coming here no matter what. But then we wouldn't have the sad songs and the underdog spirit . There's a number of possibilities in relation to what alternative scenarios could have played out. I'm always dubious about stories of glorious heroes , I'm too wary of it being propaganda and spin. But alas we can only speculate. I'd imagine life could be tough on the island but the huge native forest and pagan freedom would have been amazing. Nothing that's that good ever lasts unfortunately. They had to follow us over and spoil the fun .

Didn't Irish groups invade Scotland (the Dal Riada I think) in the 10th century or so?
I wonder what Ireland would have been like if the Romans invaded?

paddyland

Hail, King Bertie McMurracowen...

orourkeda

boutros boutros galli

common sense brigade

the last native Ard Rí (High King) is often stated to have been Ruaidhrí Ua Conchobair (in English, Rory or Roderick O'Connor), a member of the Ua Conchobair dynasty who were kings of Connacht and Ireland at the time. He died in the twelfth century. Although British control over the country did not become firmly established until the seventeenth century, Norman forces controlled the Pale, an area around Dublin, from the late twelfth century, and it became difficult for any Irish king to gain control over the entire island. Although they might be regarded as usurpers, the kings and queens of Britain began to style themselves as monarchs of Ireland also.
Me personally I think we should crown Michael Flatly king of Ireland. He is such a lovely dancer.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_the_Last_King_of_Ireland#ixzz17LaYvLex

angelfire9

Lord Inchiquin, prince of Thomond, tenth baronet of Lemeneagh, direct descendent of Brian Boru and Clareman Conor O’Brien is being proposed as the ideal independent candidate for the Irish presidential election

Source:
http://www.clarepeople.com/wordp5/201011214688/brian-boru-descendent-would-consider-bid-for-presidency/

The O'Brien dynasty (Irish: Uí Briain or Ua Briain; Modern: Ó Briain) are a royal and noble house founded in the 10th century by Brian Bóruma of the Dál gCais or Dalcassians. After becoming King of Munster, through conquest he established himself as High King of Ireland.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Brien_dynasty