Best keeper of all time.

Iron Hide

Since a couple of you have called for it, this one is to complement the best keeper in the world thread.

racso1975

Pakie

efb

Cos Safe Hands isnt there...

Yakult

No Reina??



:pac:

The Floyd p

Lev Yashin.

Pinturicchio

Pat Jennings? He can't even make the Shamrock Rovers team. :P

Buffon.

Trotter

Rinat Dasaev.. He was known as the Iron Curtain!

http://www.world-football-legends.co.uk/dasaev.php

OhNoYouDidn't

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Pat Jennings? He can't even make the Shamrock Rovers team. :P

Buffon.

You should see his bird!! Yowzer.

Shilton?

pjmn

The Floyd p wrote: »

Lev Yashin.

... is the correct answer.

eagle eye

Trotter wrote: »

Rinat Dasaev.. He was known as the Iron Curtain!

http://www.world-football-legends.co.uk/dasaev.php

I agree fully and its not even close imo. He was so far ahead of any other keeper I've ever seen.

Trotter

eagle eye wrote: »

Its Dasayev and I agree fully and its not even close imo. He was so far ahead of any other keeper I've ever seen.

Thanks! My Russian isnt great

PARKHEAD67

Packie Bonner from Donegal:D

Liam O

poll lacks Schumacher, even if he was a bit of a scummer...

Pauleta

Buffon by a mile. Not only does he not make mistakes, he saves the impossible.

tony1kenobi

Joel Bats.

thorbarry

no Sea Man?

darsar

Where's Jimmy Glass?

Seaneh

Schmeichel, are you lot f*cking serious?

Buffon or Yashin, flip a fu*king coin, it's those two miles ahead of the rest.

I'd pick Buffon because I actually seen him play a lot where as Yashin I only know by records/reputation.

WallyGUFC

I went Buffon because he's the only one I've seen enough to judge properly. A fantastic keeper.

OneColdHand

Seaneh wrote: »

Schmeichel, are you lot f*cking serious?

Pfft, United fans eh!?

eagle eye

Seaneh wrote: »

Schmeichel, are you lot f*cking serious?

Buffon or Yashin, flip a fu*king coin, it's those two miles ahead of the rest.

I'd pick Buffon because I actually seen him play a lot where as Yashin I only know by records/reputation.

Yashin isn't even the best Russian, Dasayev was better than him.

Xavi6

Higuita or Campos

eagle eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_RiPkaYOg

Seaneh

eagle eye wrote: »

Yashin isn't even the best Russian, Dasayev was better than him.

You're one of a massive minority who think that in fairness.

Pro. F

Seaneh wrote: »

Schmeichel, are you lot f*cking serious?

Buffon or Yashin, flip a fu*king coin, it's those two miles ahead of the rest.

I'd pick Buffon because I actually seen him play a lot where as Yashin I only know by records/reputation.

If Schmeichel had played in any other league you would be creaming over him.

Seaneh

Pro. F wrote: »

If Schmeichel had played in any other league you would be creaming over him.

No, I wouldn't.
I just don't think he was *that* good.

He was a great player but He's not even better than Iker and he's nowhere near Buffon.

Then again, this is the same board that reckons that Messi is better than Maradona and that Cantona was better than Savićević, so nothing here really surprises me.

furiousox

What about Peter 'The Cat' Bonetti?
Oh wait..didn't he have a crap world cup and was then renamed Peter 'The C**t' Bonetti?

SligoBrewer

Schmeichel. :rolleyes:


Bloody plastics.

Pro. F

Seaneh wrote: »

No, I wouldn't.
I just don't think he was *that* good.

He was a great player but He's not even better than Iker and he's nowhere near Buffon.

He was miles better than Casillas. There is no comparison.

I understand the admiration for Buffon. He is very special. But I can't agree with the dismissal of Schmeichel down to the ranks of Iker.

Personally I would have Schmeichel and Buffon at the top and I could see an argument for either of them. Lev Yeshin was supposedly great but there's no real way of knowing at this stage.

Pro. F

SligoBrewer wrote: »

Schmeichel. :rolleyes:


Bloody plastics.

Dismissing Schmeichel. :rolleyes:

Bloody LOItards.

Degag

Seaneh wrote: »

I just don't think he was *that* good.

LOL....... No, Just LOL.

SligoBrewer

Of those I have seen play

Kahn > Buffon >>>>>>>>>>Seaman > Schmeichel

Raekwon

Yashin - He saved over 150 penalties and kept almost 500 clean sheets in 812 games.

tdv123

Schmeichel is not a bad shout. He was one of the most important players United ever had. Easily won his team 15 points a season. Immense in Euro 92 & that save against Rapid Viena in 1996 just defied the laws of gravity(almost).

A couple of games that stand out for me.

Vs Newcastle 95/96

Vs Liverpool 96/97

Vs Arsenal 96/97

United won all these games 1-0 & were on the back foot for most of the match & Schmeichel just basically kept them in these games with world class save after world class save it was incredible. Can't remember a keeper being so influential in potential tittle deciding games.

Maybe not the greatest of all time but it certainly wouldnt be sensational to suggest that he was. He's certainly near the top anyway.

smodgley

something is wrong here..........no 0ne has mentioned paddy roche:P

maxxie

bruce grobbelaar or even roy "norn iron" carroll

Schmeichel for me :cool:

Liam O

Schmiechel was clutch, to borrow an American term. United wouldn't have won the treble without him and he had as much influence on United in the 90s as ANY other player.

OhNoYouDidn't

Liam O wrote: »

Schmiechel was clutch, to borrow an American term. United wouldn't have won the treble without him and he had as much influence on United in the 90s as ANY other player.

So being a good player at Man United in the 90's, when English football was on a down and just beginning to become a big league with the Sky money is the arbitrator of 'best ever' now, is it?

He was of course a good keeper. But if you think he was up there with Yashin, Buffon, Jennings etc you need to exand your horizons beyond the football they show in your local.

Seaneh

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

So being a good player at Man United in the 90's, when English football was on a down and just beginning to become a big league with the Sky money is the arbitrator of 'best ever' now, is it?

He was of course a good keeper. But if you think he was up there with Yashin, Buffon, Jennings etc you need to exand your horizons beyond the football they show in your local.

Exactly.
It's the same as the Cantona argument.
Big fish, small pond.
The English league in the 90's was muck. United didn't even start progressing in Europe until 1999. Before that season nobody in Europe considered them a threat!

karma_

Bert Trautmann deserves to be mentioned in this thread. A hard as nails former German para who won an Iron Cross on the Eastern Front, who famously finished a game suffering a broken neck.

He had a penalty save rate of 60% during his career and played over 500 times for City, and his fans included Matt Busby.

CorkMan

Why isn't Iker Casillas there? 2 Champions League medals, 4 leagues, Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010.

Some keepers on that list don't have those winner medals. Stunning keeper.

Mr.Nice Guy

Seaneh wrote:

Exactly.
It's the same as the Cantona argument.
Big fish, small pond.
The English league in the 90's was muck. United didn't even start progressing in Europe until 1999. Before that season nobody in Europe considered them a threat!

Schmeichel was named UEFA goalkeeper of the year four times in the nineties so to make out he was only rated highly in England, as some are suggesting, is nonsense. It's not Schmeichel's fault he played in the era he did. I don't know if Schmeichel is the best ever but he was definitely one of Europe's best in the nineties so I don't know why there is hostility to his name being mentioned.

Well I do actually, either ABUs acting up or anti-EPL sh*te

Also I wonder have those who are saying Schmeichel's not good enough, and who are mentioning Yashin, have they even seen the latter play a full 90 minutes?

Pinturicchio

CorkMan wrote: »

Why isn't Iker Casillas there? 2 Champions League medals, 4 leagues, Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010.

Some keepers on that list don't have those winner medals. Stunning keeper.

The poll isn't "keeper who has won most medals". That isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

#15

Seaneh wrote: »

Exactly.
It's the same as the Cantona argument.
Big fish, small pond.
The English league in the 90's was muck. United didn't even start progressing in Europe until 1999. Before that season nobody in Europe considered them a threat!

Revisionism in action.

You could apply similar logic to Ibrahimovic now btw.

sonic85

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Also I wonder have those who are saying Schmeichel's not good enough, and who are mentioning Yashin, have they even seen the latter play a full 90 minutes?

to be fair i dont think you really need to have seen yashin play. hes widely regarded as one of the best keepers of all time.

OhNoYouDidn't

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Schmeichel was named UEFA goalkeeper of the year four times in the nineties so to make out he was only rated highly in England, as some are suggesting, is nonsense. It's not Schmeichel's fault he played in the era he did. I don't know if Schmeichel is the best ever but he was definitely one of Europe's best in the nineties so I don't know why there is hostility to his name being mentioned.

Well I do actually, either ABUs acting up or anti-EPL sh*te

Also I wonder have those who are saying Schmeichel's not good enough, and who are mentioning Yashin, have they even seen the latter play a full 90 minutes?

I have never seen Pele play 90 mins, but I know he was one of the best ever.

My objection was to the methodology applied. Schmichel was the Man united Keeper at a time when English clubs were just back into Europe, Hillsboro had just happened and Sky money hadn't, and the game over there was in general a mess. Man United were the best of a poor bunch at the time.

While he was a very, very good keeper, I would question whether he can be called one of the worlds best ever, given the justification I remarked on.

These things are pointless if you just pick your teams representitive and call everyone who questions you as being 'against' your side.

jaykay74

Surprised no one has mentioned that the role of the keeper has changed radically from 1992 when the backpass rule came into play. Now that have to be good with their feet which was really required so much from the pre backpass keepers. Packie went from a decent keeper to somewhat sh!t fairly sharpish.

Panthro

Jussi all the way..aswell

steelcityblues

Seaneh wrote: »

Exactly.
It's the same as the Cantona argument.
Big fish, small pond.
The English league in the 90's was muck. United didn't even start progressing in Europe until 1999. Before that season nobody in Europe considered them a threat!

You obviously didn't watch the 1992 European Championship then? Hardly a 'muck' tournament.

Also, he won several goalie/forward duals in matches against the likes of Ian Wright, Alan Shearer, Dennis Bergkamp, Les Ferdinand - none of whom I would describe as 'muck' forwards in their heyday. He missed games for United in Europe btw because of the stupid 3 foreign players rule.

Like with at least 3 or 4 others on this list, he's a fair choice for the greatest goalie of all time.

karma_

steelcityblues wrote: »

You obviously didn't watch the 1992 European Championship then? Hardly a 'muck' tournament.

Also, he won several goalie/forward duals in matches against the likes of Ian Wright, Alan Shearer, Dennis Bergkamp, Les Ferdinand - none of whom I would describe as 'muck' forwards in their heyday. He missed games for United in Europe btw because of the stupid 3 foreign players rule.

Like with at least 3 or 4 others on this list, he's a fair choice for the greatest goalie of all time.

To be fair Denmark never even qualified for that tournament.

#15

karma_ wrote: »

To be fair Denmark never even qualified for that tournament.

Even more of an achievement that they went on to win it.