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07-12-2010 12:28pm#1Just briefly, I'm a mum with an 8yr old who until the world cup this summer, never kicked a ball. To say he is now obsessed, would be an understatement:D Santy is only bringing soccer stuff in 18 days (everything else from cars to wrestlers have been ignored for months now).
Anyway, he's joined a team with DDSL and loving it. While I grew up in a house full of soccer, and quite like it, I realised I've alot to learn and am wondering how best to do it? This might sound like a bit of a stupid post but honestly, I'm learning bits & pieces online (he's a Man U fan & Real Madrid fan) but I still don't know enough and I really, really want to learn more so I know what he's talking about.
For example, on a Sunday morning at 10am, when I've driven 24 miles for a match and the dads on the sideline are roaring 'Skill him' or 'Skin him' (I don't know what they're saying! - what does that mean exactly
), I haven't a clue what they mean. And when they roar at him to change position, I never have a clue why I don't want to sound like the mother who hasn't a clue on the sideline, so usually I just roar 'Go on..go on...!!':P
So will I just learn all this as time goes by and I keep going to the matches, or is there a Quickfix way for me to learn:D
Have stuck a few posts up here, and received great help from loads of posters, so would really appreciate any advice ye can offer, Cheers:D0
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Seriously...what does it mean
It means run at him and if possible, past him.
My advice would be not to shout anything at him. If he does something well maybe clap and say well done. If he looks discouraged or tired, some small words of encouragement to keep him going.
Generally parents shouting at kids during a match is cringe worthy and detrimental.0 -
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Seriously...what does it mean
It means to go past him, usually with the ball.
Best thing to do really is sit down and watch games with him. Listen to the commentators and get a grasp of some of the basic lingo. That will help you out. The fact that you're interacting with him at the same time will help as he'll love being able to discuss the game with you afterwards.
Also maybe take him to a League of Ireland game so he can experience football in person as a spectator. He will either love the experience as I did or maybe he'll hate it as there aren't any 'superstars' playing. There will however be kids his own age, and his own club might even have an affiliation with a League of Ireland club for tickets etc.
The important thing really at his age is not to cut off any avenues for football, and if you can go down those avenues with him then all the better.
You'll be surprised at how much you even pick up from him as well.0 -
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Most Dad's there wont no any more than you
It's nice to hear you're wanting to learn. A knowledgeable parent can make all the difference in a kids development at that age, because our grassroots falls short. At his age I wouldn't worry to much about positions and tactics, get him working on his technique, that's where most Irish kids fall short. The BBC has different videos on developing certain skills and tricks.
Wikipedia is a decent place to start for the basics you may be unsure of, UEFA's training ground site has some pretty good resources to, some of the stuff would be quite advanced but there are some nice video overviews of the basic formations and different roles on the pitch. This site is quite comprehensive too: www.bettersoccermorefun.com but it's not the most accessible.0 -
missingtime wrote: »Who's gonna be the brave soul to explain the offside rule?
She has already said she understands it, so that's an excellent start!0 -
It means to go past him, usually with the ball.
Best thing to do really is sit down and watch games with him. Listen to the commentators and get a grasp of some of the basic lingo. That will help you out. The fact that you're interacting with him at the same time will help as he'll love being able to discuss the game with you afterwards.
Also maybe take him to a League of Ireland game so he can experience football in person as a spectator. He will either love the experience as I did or maybe he'll hate it as there aren't any 'superstars' playing. There will however be kids his own age, and his own club might even have an affiliation with a League of Ireland club for tickets etc.
The important thing really at his age is not to cut off any avenues for football, and if you can go down those avenues with him then all the better.
You'll be surprised at how much you even pick up from him as well.
Thanks:D
Honestly guys, I had no clue how much impact football can have on a child. This lad would be the most easily distracted child in the world - in school and at home. To the point where I had him assessed only last year, to see if he was on some 'spectrum' or other (there are so many spectrums these days:rolleyes:). Anyway, he's 'normal' thankfully....
But the improvement in his everday life since he took an interest in footie is ASTOUNDING! We've been to the Aviva a few times now (he decided he's a Sligo Rovers fan after that match:)), and he'll sit and watch a match from start to finish and want to talk to me about it all over again, when it's over. His behaviour has improved a hundred-fold (he was a good kid anyway, but is 100% more focussed on everything now)... He has learned SO much about team work and discipline from his two fab coaches at footie...
Why does it not say ANYTHING about the importance of football in a young boys life in any of the hundreds of books I've read about ways to help him concentrate more
I like the idea of bringing him to League of Ireland matches...any recommendations?0 -
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No one should be roaring at kids lpaying football at that age, tbh. Encourage them when they don't do things well, and praise the things they do well. Too much shouting only confuses them probably, especially if they are not used to playing on a team.
Then again, as a Man U, Real, and Ronaldo fan, he deserves loads of abuse
Edit, he gets back some credit for the Sligo Rovers fan bit though.0 -
will the LoI gestapo be happy with the fact that hes in dublin but supporting sligo?
pretty much what xavi6 said is spot on though. my mum didnt have much of a clue but between her and my other mates mums who took us to the games, it was always good to be supported.. even if we were getting beat 9 - 0 by the league leaders
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will the LoI gestapo be happy with the fact that hes in dublin but supporting sligo?
pretty much what xavi6 said is spot on though. my mum didnt have much of a clue but between her and my other mates mums who took us to the games, it was always good to be supported.. even if we were getting beat 9 - 0 by the league leaders
That's what's happening too I'm afraid...last match was 12-2:(. You should hear me trying to convince him the other team only scored 9:D AND telling him 'it's all about the game...' ANd mentioning not to tell the lad on the road the score (this lad wins every match, ever week 10-0.....except of course, he doesn't:rolleyes:)
He had a shamrock rovers scarf on going to the Aviva and knew nowt about league of ireland soccer...half way through he decided that sligo were a better team, and that if he lived in sligo, could we go to their matches every week mammy:D
I'm from Dublin 9, so northside....
While I get that there are fans of loi teams here who might suggest one team over the other, please keep in mind that we know nothing about loi, have no affiliation with any team (my dad and his family weren't even soccer fans) etc etc. Cheers0 -
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Kids don't want you to know the ins and outs.
Just bring them along and shell out for whatever he asks for and you'll be the best parent in the world.
Fingal are closest by the sounds of it. Then possibly Shels when they go bust in about 2-3 years time. :pac:0 -
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I'm Dubin 9 myself and support Bohs, just sayin'
I'm from Dublin 9, so northside....
As Frantic said however, Sporting Fingal would be the closest more than likely.
Shelbourne would be close enough too.
Maybe see if any of his friends support someone in the League of Ireland and see if he'd like to get to a few games?Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test
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Just to reiterate whats been said on here... At this stage encouragement and support is all he needs. And tell him to pay no attention to anyone on the sideline but his coach/manager (most others haven't a clue)! At his age the game should be purely for fun and he will just develop naturally, as he gets older he can begin to learn the more intricate and technical aspects of the game. His seems to be surrounding himself with the game and feeding his brain with enough knowledge as he can get from other sources so all you shuold be doing is keep encouraging him and providing him with the support unit he needs to continue developing.
From a purely footballing point of view in my exeperiences I wish someone had encouraged me to work on my weaker foot when I was younger! My try and encourage him when he is kicking around in the garden or local park to use his weaker foot. It something that he would find much harder to learn as he gets older and will really stand to him if he could learn to use it.
Finally, for the next 3-4 year he will be developing, when he hits 10-11 he will probably start taking things more seriously and this is when he will know his own level and weather he can step up. Again encourage him to always play to the best of his abililty and at as high a level as he can. Come 15/16 things will get fun, this is where I have seen so many lads that could have made it fall down. when the traps of women, drink and everything else that goes with it can come in. If you can keep him on the right track during this period you may have a future superstar on your hands and all of us here on boards.ie can have a share of his first big money move to England
Cheers
Gampdub
PS I'm a Bohs fan too... I wouldn't inflict bohs on anyone right now. If you want him to have low expectations from the team he follows then go with them, he'll probably make his own mind up when he get older anyway!0 -
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My bit of advice would be always to talk to him about his football, be it just a chat about training, how he got on in a match or even his favourite team. It's important to do this early so that he becomes comfortable with communicating with you. For many teenage lads it's the only time when they truly get passionate about something to the point of crying after a loss or being ecstatic after a win.
Get to know his fixture schedule and training schedule so you aren't out of the loop with regards to them. My own dad never bothered and I gave up telling him what I had on because he'd drop me out to a match on a Saturday morning and come back 3 hours later and forget if it was a match or training. I know he had a lot on his mind but it's the simplest thing in the world to remember if someone has a match over training or vice versa.
Generally I'd recommend not trying to mollycoddle him from the sideline, he has to learn to rough it out himself and as long as he's playing with children his own age then he should be okay. That being said if there is some foul play going on then don't hesitate in letting the ref or a manger know that you don't agree but NOT by shouting like a fool at the ref. I've seen so many parents do that and it's just embarrassing and the other kids will pick up on it. A quiet word will do.
All in all you are lucky he has discovered the joys of football from such an early age. I would encourage you to not let him become totally engrossed in football at first. Do not give into his every whim so that he doesn't become bored or burnt out from all the exposure.
If you have any flower pots in the back garden then I would get rid of them now because soon enough they will become goal posts and soon after that they will be broken.
Tell him to enjoy his football, the competitiveness will come naturally at an older age when he will be mentally and physically more in tune with the game.
Edit: Forgot to add that organised football is all well and good but he'll develop exponentially by going out on the street and playing with older kids. He'll learn what to say, how to defend himself and so on. I think you said his dad isn't involved, well then playing football on the street will show him how boys a few years older than him act. Obviously you should keep an eye to make sure nothing dodgy is happening0 -
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I hope this kid goes pro some day!
This same kid was born with club feet and spent the first year of his life in orthopedic shoes and getting physio......I've photos of his terribly attractive shoes:rolleyes: So when he is playing in Old Trafford and has paid his mammy's mortgage off, I'll write the book:D0 -
This same kid was born with club feet and spent the first year of his life in orthopedic shoes and getting physio......I've photos of his terribly attractive shoes:rolleyes: So when he is playing in Old Trafford and has paid his mammy's mortgage off, I'll write the book:D
He's in good company! This guy was born with severe deformities of his legs:
Went on to be one of the best players in the world and win a pair of World Cups 0 -
Please dont tell her how Garincha ended... :cool:He's in good company! This guy was born with severe deformities of his legs:
Went on to be one of the best players in the world and win a pair of World Cups
She might send the boy to ballet....0 -
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