Does it get much better than this?

L-M

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1749547

Just serviced
New clutch and flywheel
New discs and pads
Brake fluid changed
New tyres eagle f1s,
Full service history from new.
NCT 08/12
60000 miles

When buying a used car I don't think you can get much better of a list than that!

Tillerman08

New clutch at 60,000?????

Matt Simis

Limerick man wrote: »

When buying a used car I don't think you can get much better of a list than that!

"New BiTurbos"
"New Auto transmission"

would be better...

Tillerman08

Tillerman08 wrote: »

New clutch at 60,000?????

Not too unusual on a high performance yoke that's 8 years old.

Tillerman08

Didn't see the St part of the add- nice car. Good luck with sale!

L-M

Matt Simis wrote: »

"New BiTurbos"
"New Auto transmission"

would be better...

Some of us could cope with the mere Hp of the 3.0 V6 :P

L-M

Tillerman08 wrote: »

Didn't see the St part of the add- nice car. Good luck with sale!

LOL, it's not mine (I wish). I'm sure saying from a buyers point of view, it doesn't get much better than buying a car that literally seems to need nothing, and has a FSH, with low miles to boot!

Surely it's grossly overpriced, no way would I value that at €6000 more than my ZT, which the Mondeo wouldn't be losing in the twisties either me thinks.

-Corkie-

RoverJames wrote: »

Surely it's grossly overpriced, no way would I value that at €6000 more than my ZT, which the Mondeo wouldn't be losing in the twisties either me thinks.

Nice car though. I was watching an old Top gear yesterday and he test drove it. Very impressive. That one is crazy money..

langdang

RoverJames wrote: »

Surely it's grossly overpriced

I agree, I like em an all, but not at that premium. It's a 3L petrol mondeo in Ireland, he'll be waiting a long time, even tho it does look well looked after.

Henry Ford III

RoverJames wrote: »

Surely it's grossly overpriced, no way would I value that at €6000 more than my ZT, which the Mondeo wouldn't be losing in the twisties either me thinks.

Maybe overpriced, but it's still way more attactive than a smokey old Rover

robtri

very sweet motor.....

a bit over priced and will be a bitch to sell here...
few people looking for amotor like that here with the running costs involved

Tillerman08

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Maybe overpriced, but it's still way more attactive than a smokey old Rover

LOL

Henry Ford III

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Maybe overpriced, but it's still way more attactive than a smokey old Rover

lol, my smokey ole ZT at €2250 is a far better purchase than that overprised blue oval badged yoke. I reckon the Mondeo would struggle to outhandle a ZT too. Also from a purely attractiveness view point the Mondeo looks sh1te compared to an MG ZT.

L-M

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Maybe overpriced, but it's still way more attactive than a smokey old Rover

I LOL'd! :L

RoverJames wrote: »

lol, my smokey ole ZT at €2250 is a far better purchase than that overprised blue oval badged yoke. I reckon the Mondeo would struggle to outhandle a ZT too. Also from a purely attractiveness view point the Mondeo looks sh1te compared to an MG ZT.

I'd be torn on which I like more, probably leaning towards the MG. In estate version, the Mg a thousand times over

Henry Ford III

RoverJames wrote: »

lol, my smokey ole ZT at €2250 is a far better purchase than that overprised blue oval badged yoke. I reckon the Mondeo would struggle to outhandle a ZT too. Also from a purely attractiveness view point the Mondeo looks sh1te compared to an MG ZT.

Matter of opinion James.

unkel

I don't think it's such a great deal either. 220BHP meh and still pay 3l motor tax. For not that much more money you'd have an early E39 M5. There's 400BHP for ya in a proper sports saloon.

Andrew42

RoverJames wrote: »

Surely it's grossly overpriced, no way would I value that at €6000 more than my ZT, which the Mondeo wouldn't be losing in the twisties either me thinks.

Nice unbiased post as usual James. The Mondeo ST220 is streets ahead of the ZT.

L-M

That reminds me,

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1664900

I wasn't refering anything to the car or the add, more the point of it's a car you could buy and have nothing to do or worry about... Evidently you pay a premium for that, lol.

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

Nice unbiased post as usual James. The Mondeo ST220 is streets ahead of the ZT.

I said the Mondeo would struggle to leave it in the twisties and that at €8300 the Mondeo is overpriced, I fail to see the bias there old boy. You'd better stop now though, the last time we had a chat you got a ban iirc

Detail how it is streets ahead ? Performance ?? Handling ?? Looks ?? Build quality ??

Wasn't you who got banned, apologies for that. I see your a member a month, hardly here long enough to make comments about me being biased or otherwise. You reckon that Mondeo is value at €8300 so ?

bladespin

unkel wrote: »

I don't think it's such a great deal either. 220BHP meh and still pay 3l motor tax. For not that much more money you'd have an early E39 M5. There's 400BHP for ya in a proper sports saloon.

Yes but that's a BMW and most performance Ford owners prefer the blue badge.

I agree with RJ, it seems overpriced compared to other machines on the market.

Andrew42

RoverJames wrote: »

Detail how it is streets ahead ? Performance ?? Handling ?? Looks ?? Build quality ??

All four. and I don't like Mondeos, I'd still take one over a sh!theap Rover.

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

All four. and I don't like Mondeos, I'd still take one over a sh!theap Rover.

Streets ahead in terms of performance, handling, reliability and build quality. lol You certainly know your beans. And that you go on to mention sh!theap Rover after calling me biased, chuckle chuckle. You the Man Andrew, I look forward to your future well informed posts :pac:

Henry Ford III

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Matter of opinion James.

No doubt but describing a 2.5KV6 powered MG ZT as a smokey ole Rover just makes you look like a total numpty.

BTW, you drive a ........ ????

BronsonTB

It's taxing it....that's the real killer.....But I do like the big fords....

daRobot

Yes, it definitely does get better than that

I wouldn't be interested in that car at 4grand, let alone 8.

As said earlier, you'd get a good M5 for 10k'ish.

Matt Simis

bladespin wrote: »

Yes but that's a BMW and most performance Ford owners prefer the blue badge.
.

Im quite sure they died out in the early 1990s.

Matt Simis

Matt Simis wrote: »

Im quite sure they died out in the early 1990s.

Yep, any decent performing Ford that folks drive about in now registered in the 00s is Volvo powered. If it wasn't for the like of Volvo, Cosworth and Yamaha poor ole Ford would never have made a performance car, except for the XR3i of course......

-Corkie-

Andrew42 wrote: »

All four. and I don't like Mondeos, I'd still take one over a sh!theap Rover.

:D:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Atomic Pineapple

RoverJames wrote: »

Yep, any decent performing Ford that folks drive about in now registered in the 00s is Volvo powered.

Thankfully!

Andrew42

Ah the 75, such a fantastic car, the world's motoring press lauded it as the greatest car ever to roll on four tyres, it was bought in droves by the public which led Rover to become the worlds number 1 car manufacturer, oh hang on.....:rolleyes:

The standard Mondeo (the model referred to in this thread) was in fact praised by Europe's motoring hacks for it's fine handling so I can only assume the ST handled pretty sweetly too.

Don't put your hand out to be slapped James (even if it is covered by a stringbacked glove)

unkel

bladespin wrote: »

that's a BMW and most performance Ford owners prefer the blue badge.

You saying that most ST220 owners would prefer it over an M5?

Andrew42

unkel wrote: »

You saying that most ST220 owners would prefer it over an M5?

Apples and oranges.

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

Ah the 75, such a fantastic car, the world's motoring press lauded it as the greatest car ever to roll on four tyres, it was bought in droves by the public which led Rover to become the worlds number 1 car manufacturer, oh hang on.....:rolleyes:

The standard Mondeo (the model referred to in this thread) was in fact praised by Europe's motoring hacks for it's fine handling so I can only assume the ST handled pretty sweetly too.

Don't put your hand out to be slapped James (even if it is covered by a stringbacked glove)

So you reckon an MG ZT doesn't handle exceptionally well ? My comments have stated that the Mondeo wouldn't lose the ZT on a challenging road and that a 2002 ST is not at all worth €6000 more than a 2002 ZT. Have you driven either a Mondeo or a 75/ZT of any sort ? If you reckon that Mondeo is such a great car why don't you buy it for €8000 ? Are you going to tell us what you drive ? Also any comments on your experience with cars to dissuade me from thinking you are yet another "enthusiast" from the HonestJohn & TopGear school ?

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

The standard Mondeo (the model referred to in this thread) was in fact praised by Europe's motoring hacks for it's fine handling so I can only assume the ST handled pretty sweetly too.

You should research what they said about the ZT

Tillerman08

Jez lads he's only looking to sell the bloody car for his mate- not a detailed autopsy on it!

x in the city

loll

ladz

behave...:D

Its way over priced, 4 grand I think it would be lucky to go for, but it does look very good.


as for a M5, well that is streets and streets ahead so its not a valid comparison.

For me, I am not overly excited with a 3 litre pumping out 'just', 220 horses....

bladespin

unkel wrote: »

You saying that most ST220 owners would prefer it over an M5?

Can't speak for anyone else but I wouldn't buy a BMW, I wouldn't refuse a drive in one all the same. I'd pay about €5k for the Ford and save save the rest instead of throwing €10k away on a M5.

As said already you're comparing two very different things.

Andrew42

RoverJames wrote: »

So you reckon an MG ZT doesn't handle exceptionally well ? My comments have stated that the Mondeo wouldn't lose the ZT on a challenging road and that a 2002 ST is not at all worth €6000 more than a 2002 ZT. Have you driven either a Mondeo or a 75/ZT of any sort ? If you reckon that Mondeo is such a great car why don't you buy it for €8000 ? Are you going to tell us what you drive ? Also any comments on your experience with cars to dissuade me from thinking you are yet another "enthusiast" from the HonestJohn & TopGear school ?

Might not lose a ZT, but would definitely be in front. I'm driving 22 years, I've driven so many different cars I've lost count though I have settled into the VAG family over the last number of years but I still think I have a slightly more balanced view of the motoring world than someone who calls themselves RoverJames (not having a go, simply pointing out the bias). I'm not in the market for an 8K Motor and if I was I certainly wouldn't be looking on donedeal or gumtree.

bladespin

Andrew42 wrote: »

I'm not in the market for an 8K Motor and if I was I certainly wouldn't be looking on donedeal or gumtree.

Where would you look? TBH I don't see any alternatives to the sites you mention bar adverts.ie (of course).

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

Might not lose a ZT, but would definitely be in front. I'm driving 22 years, I've driven so many different cars I've lost count though I have settled into the VAG family over the last number of years but I still think I have a slightly more balanced view of the motoring world than someone who calls themselves RoverJames (not having a go, simply pointing out the bias). I'm not in the market for an 8K Motor and if I was I certainly wouldn't be looking on donedeal or gumtree.

It's an ID on a forum. In the last two years I've had a BMW, Honda & a Merc as well as one or two Rovers. My view of the motoring world is very balanced, your posts in this thread show yours to be anything but.

Andrew42

bladespin wrote: »

Where would you look? TBH I don't see any alternatives to the sites you mention bar adverts.ie (of course).

I would be looking at sites which are exclusively for selling motors such as cbg.ie, beepbeep.ie etc and individual dealers websites too for comparison.

Andrew42

RoverJames wrote: »

It's an ID on a forum. In the last two years I've had a BMW, Honda & a Merc as well as one or two Rovers. My view of the motoring world is very balanced, your posts in this thread show yours to be anything but.

Yawn, so were you previously called BMWJames, HondaJames and MercJames? trying to provoke a reaction? bye now;)

bladespin

Andrew42 wrote: »

I would be looking at sites which are exclusively for selling motors such as cbg.ie, beepbeep.ie etc and individual dealers websites too for comparison.

CBG is only a dealers site these days from my experience, why would you only be interested in dealers, if you know your stuff you'd be far better off buying private, especially from an enthusiast.

Andrew42

bladespin wrote: »

CBG is only a dealers site these days from my experience, why would you only be interested in dealers, if you know your stuff you'd be far better off buying private, especially from an enthusiast.

I suppose it'd all depend on what you're looking for? if it was specialist stuff I look to the specialists or owners clubs. I'm long past the point of buying everyday runarounds out of the classifieds.

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

Nice unbiased post as usual James. The Mondeo ST220 is streets ahead of the ZT.

Andrew42 wrote: »

I'd still take one over a sh!theap Rover.

Andrew42 wrote: »

Ah the 75, such a fantastic car, the world's motoring press lauded it as the greatest car ever to roll on four tyres, it was bought in droves by the public which led Rover to become the worlds number 1 car manufacturer, oh hang on.....:rolleyes:

............... (even if it is covered by a stringbacked glove)

Andrew42 wrote: »

(not having a go, simply pointing out the bias). .

lol, not having a go :rolleyes:
If you have a problem with me I suggest a PM may be in order, the post above show you were most definitly having a go Vagman.

bladespin

Andrew42 wrote: »

I suppose it'd all depend on what you're looking for? if it was specialist stuff I look to the specialists or owners clubs. I'm long past the point of buying everyday runarounds out of the classifieds.

I wouldn't necessarily class an ST as an everyday runaround but you'd find it hard to find a dealer with them in stock, they're a rare enough beastie.

RoverJames

RoverJames wrote: »

Are you going to tell us what you drive ?

Andrew42 wrote: »

though I have settled into the VAG family over the last number of years

So you're not going to reveal the make and model of what you drive........... VAG, could be anything from an Ibiza to an A8.

Andrew42

bladespin wrote: »

I wouldn't necessarily class an ST as an everyday runaround but you'd find it hard to find a dealer with them in stock, they're a rare enough beastie.

All the more reason to try and track one down tru an owners club (AFAIK there is a Fast Ford owners club) rather than a classified? That's provided you're in the market for an ST220!

@James, don't forget Bugatti and Lamborghini too.
You seem to have closed off the top of the VAG family a tad early.

BTW, it's completely irrelevant what I drive now, I didn't bring any opinion about my car to this post unlike you.

Andrew42

Andrew42 wrote: »

BTW, it's completely irrelevant what I drive now, I didn't bring any opinion about my car to this post unlike you.

You brought no opinion of what you drive but referred to what I drive as a heap of sh1t for no good reason only to stir sh1t. Due to you not wanting to reveal what you are driving I think we can discount it being a Bugatti or a Lambo. The only opinion I brought was that I reckoned the ST was not worth €6000 more than my ZT, hardly a provocative comment.

Andrew42

RoverJames wrote: »

You brought no opinion of what you drive but referred to what I drive as a heap of sh1t for no good reason only to stir sh1t. Due to you not wanting to reveal what you are driving I think we can discount it being a Bugatti or a Lambo. The only opinion I brought was that I reckoned the ST was not worth €6000 more than my ZT, hardly a provocative comment.

My opinion of Rovers as sh!theaps is purely personal, we all have our likes and dislikes when it come to wheels, if you take it as sh!tstirring, that's your problem. Good luck!