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Is there a wireless router powerful enough .....

  • 10-12-2010 3:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,786 ✭✭✭✭


    .... to transmit a signal from the base house to another house maybe 50 yards away?

    Is this possible, with all the external factors outside of an enclosed house?

    I ask as I know 2 family members living this distance apart, and they are curious as to whether the 2nd can share the internet signal of the main house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    yes, easily with the right antenna.

    get a router with multiple removable antenna and you can use one of the sockets to attach a directional antenna and you should be able to get a good clear strong signal to the other house.

    you can even get antenna designed specifically to be mounted outside so you can at least remove one of the external walls from the equation.

    there's actually a very lively 'homebrew' scene of people making their own directional wifi antenna to try and outdo each other and its not uncommon for them to be able to get a signal several miles so i don't think you'll have much of a problem with 50 yards. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,786 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Thanks for that info.

    Re: the directional antenna, does this still work even when in the house? By this I mean if I get a directional one, and it in indoors at the router, if I point it in the directional of the other house, will the signal still not be affected by the several walls of the host house that it needs to pass through en route to the 2nd house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaSCaDe711




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    CaSCaDe711 wrote: »

    Thanks for that.

    Is the Dovado 4g router the best router for USB broadband???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Thanks for that info.

    Re: the directional antenna, does this still work even when in the house? By this I mean if I get a directional one, and it in indoors at the router, if I point it in the directional of the other house, will the signal still not be affected by the several walls of the host house that it needs to pass through en route to the 2nd house?
    the range is going to be affected by any obstacles, particularly walls and there's a good chance the signal won't make it all the way. the simple solution is to reposition the router so this is not an issue and run a cable from the phone socket, assuming it is DSL (which may affect the connection speed) or homeplugs to create a wired network using your existing electrical system

    without knowing the specifics of the location its next to impossible to give the right advice though, it will depend on a few different factors. it's far from impossible though, just a little inconvenient. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭robcon


    This will do the job if you have a clear line of sight
    http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/18_NETWORK/07_WLWAP/productdetails/20019315/NETGEAR_HD_Gaming_5_GHz_Wireless_N_Networking_Kit/WNHDEB111_100ISS/default.aspx

    I'm using it to do this very job at the moment and the distance is approx 30m. No problems gaming on the ps3. No disconnects from the ps network during 3+hr sessions so has been very reliable thus far.

    Hope this helps! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,786 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd guess the two houses are approx 100 yards apart. No obstructions between them, except a few cows !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Stky10


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd guess the two houses are approx 100 yards apart. No obstructions between them, except a few cows !!

    The higher the frequency the lower the distance covered, so I wouldn't use that Komplett Netgear one. I don't think any standard wireless gear would give a decent connection over that distance, also bear in mind that even if it did, you'd slow down the wireless connection for your own house in doing so (for compatibility the tx/rx speed drops to that of the lowest speed device on the network).

    I think you'd need to get more specialist gear for something like that and do a point to point connection between the two houses. If you own the field between the two houses it might just be easier to run a cable between the two houses. Good Cat 5 or 6 cable would have a capability to do 100m without a repeater.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Please only advise on networking issues if you actually know what you are talking about
    Good Cat 5 or 6 cable would have a capability to do 100m without a repeater

    This shows you clearly do not.

    OP A set of these would do the job no problem, set one to AP and then configure the other to station mode and connect to a router (2.4GHz) router via Ethernet. These are 5GHz to avoid interference from various sources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Please only advise on networking issues if you actually know what you are talking about

    This shows you clearly do not.
    howso? :confused:

    external cat5 will work fine up to 100m on a straight run without a repeater no problem at all as long as its laid & terminated properly, as will cat6 so i don't see how that statement shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Stky10


    Please only advise on networking issues if you actually know what you are talking about

    This shows you clearly do not.

    Please go away and take your attitude with you. Then while you're there read up on Ethernet physical layer standards which state a maximum distance of 100 metres (328 ft) over twisted pair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    vibe666 wrote: »
    howso? :confused:

    external cat5 will work fine up to 100m on a straight run without a repeater no problem at all as long as its laid & terminated properly, as will cat6 so i don't see how that statement shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about?


    How many people know how to do this?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Stky10, warning issued. Leave the modding to the mods.

    Now lads back on topic please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    How many people know how to do this?
    plenty of people. even if he just goes out and buys a 100m of cable, a crimper and a cable tester he'll probably not have any trouble doing it as long as he's careful.

    its certainly not going to be any harder than trying to put external antenna and get them lined up and its certainly going to be cheaper and more reliable once its installed and working.

    there's also a good chance that a local electrician would have the tools and skills to get it done for him if he really doesn't fancy doing it himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭ixtlan


    vibe666 wrote: »
    plenty of people. even if he just goes out and buys a 100m of cable, a crimper and a cable tester he'll probably not have any trouble doing it as long as he's careful.

    Agreed. It isn't rocket science terminating a cat5/6 cable. He's probably going to find someone in his circle of friends who has a crimper and some RJ45 plugs. For those who wonder a crimper is a bit like a pliers with an attachment to crimp/crush the end of the cable into a plug, separating the data wires into their appropriate positions.

    However the trouble comes in running a cable underground, since we don't know what obstructions are in the way. Even having a concrete path around each house makes things awkward, so the OP might find the wireless route easier.

    Ix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    ixtlan wrote: »
    Agreed. It isn't rocket science terminating a cat5/6 cable. He's probably going to find someone in his circle of friends who has a crimper and some RJ45 plugs. For those who wonder a crimper is a bit like a pliers with an attachment to crimp/crush the end of the cable into a plug, separating the data wires into their appropriate positions.

    However the trouble comes in running a cable underground, since we don't know what obstructions are in the way. Even having a concrete path around each house makes things awkward, so the OP might find the wireless route easier.

    Ix.
    might be possible to do it overground depending on what structures are between the buildings.


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