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Gerry Ryan Inquest

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    #482
    keanooo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭keanooo


    One of Ireland's biggest celebraties dies from coke (or has a cocaine-related death, for the pedants) and there is zero commentary from RTE or The Irish Times on it. Real brave Irish meejah.


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    #483
    policeman
    Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭policeman


    If Gerry was alive and could truthfully respond perhaps it might be like this:

    "Good morning folks. G Ryan is banjaxed. I've been at this radio game for years. I did a bit of television but everybody thought I was sh*te. I have been defined by what I do. Telling the people things they want to hear every morning, trying to be that rock, that voice of reason. In my life like everyone else sh*t happens and continues to happen. I am not some demi god like you want to believe when you hear my voice. I am a man, who has fears, and worries and confidence issues like any guy. I don't let on though, because I have to be confident and sure of myself. That's what pulls in ratings and pays my wages. I have my weaknesses too but I never let on.

    Even with all my money I'm not happy. Most of it goes to my family. I spend the rest on food in the Four Seasons and a big bag of coke. Why? - Well it gets me high and I forget about the stress of trying to be strong and trying to keep it together, and the pressure of keeping the ratings steady for the show. Yeah I know, I chose this path, this career, and so I have to accept everything about it. I loathe myself sometimes, and think yeah, i'm a bit of a c*nt or I'm crap and people hate me, but the coke takes the edge of those feelings.

    My life is very public too. That's another thing that comes with the job, but I guess that's part of the price I pay. So don't hate me when I say that to a degree I have to put on this facade of being a forthright radio presenter, and alot of what I say is determined by an imaginary moral compass. I really would like to be a better person. In private I am falling apart and need someone, anyone to lean on, to help me fight my demons"


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    #484
    ebixa82
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭ebixa82


    keanooo wrote: »
    I disagree with your conclusion here, but it is analogous to the Gerry Ryan hypocrisy. The problem that I had with Ryan is that on the one hand he was a coke user but on the other he publicly portrayed himself as a "straight-talker" who regularly bad-mouthed junkies and pushers... as if he was completely above it. I wouldn't condemn him for the recreational drug-use alone... it's the two-facedness of it all that annoyed me. Also the fact that his habit was funded by tax-payers money.

    As for the doctors you refer to above. What advice are they meant to give a patient who says they get demented on coke from time to time?

    Physician, heal thyself.

    Doctors will give solid professional advice on the dangers of drug abuse to the patient. They are not pontificating or voicing their own personal opinions on the matter, just giving hard solid facts.

    If, working in your professional capacity as a Doctor, someone comes to you with a history of drug abuse or showing the effects of overdosage you would never judge them or lecture them.

    Gerry Ryan, sitting on his throne out in RTE did just that, even though he was abusing drugs just as the rest of them.

    That's the difference!


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    #485
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    keanooo wrote: »
    One of Ireland's biggest celebraties dies from coke (or has a cocaine-related death, for the pedants) and there is zero commentary from RTE or The Irish Times on it. Real brave Irish meejah.

    Shur all they're fit for is regurgitating press releases.


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    #486
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    policeman wrote: »
    If Gerry was alive and could truthfully respond perhaps it might be like this:

    "Good morning folks. G Ryan is banjaxed. I've been at this radio game for years. I did a bit of television but everybody thought I was sh*te. I have been defined by what I do. Telling the people things they want to hear every morning, trying to be that rock, that voice of reason. In my life like everyone else sh*t happens and continues to happen. I am not some demi god like you want to believe when you hear my voice. I am a man, who has fears, and worries and confidence issues like any guy. I don't let on though, because I have to be confident and sure of myself. That's what pulls in ratings and pays my wages. I have my weaknesses too but I never let on.

    Even with all my money I'm not happy. Most of it goes to my family. I spend the rest on food in the Four Seasons and a big bag of coke. Why? - Well it gets me high and I forget about the stress of trying to be strong and trying to keep it together, and the pressure of keeping the ratings steady for the show. Yeah I know, I chose this path, this career, and so I have to accept everything about it. I loathe myself sometimes, and think yeah, i'm a bit of a c*nt or I'm crap and people hate me, but the coke takes the edge of those feelings.

    My life is very public too. That's another thing that comes with the job, but I guess that's part of the price I pay. So don't hate me when I say that to a degree I have to put on this facade of being a forthright radio presenter, and alot of what I say is determined by an imaginary moral compass. I really would like to be a better person. In private I am falling apart and need someone, anyone to lean on, to help me fight my demons"

    Boo hoo.

    Sounds like an easy life compared to my fathers 60 years of farming.
    He's a divil for the ould cocaine.


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    #487
    crazygeryy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    i wonder will fanning kenny and duffy be on the late late show this friday night paying tribute to the cocaine taking gerry.ah sure wasnt he a divil for the ole cocaine god love him.
    they are being very quiet now.and the other post saying melanie knew about it.of course she did and morah and probably his own kids.

    what a waste.


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    #488
    slainte1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43 ✭slainte1


    keanooo wrote: »
    One of Ireland's biggest celebraties dies from coke (or has a cocaine-related death, for the pedants) and there is zero commentary from RTE or The Irish Times on it. Real brave Irish meejah.
    The above statement is factually incorrect.


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    #489
    astra2000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭astra2000


    policeman wrote: »
    If Gerry was alive and could truthfully respond perhaps it might be like this:

    "Good morning folks. G Ryan is banjaxed. I've been at this radio game for years. I did a bit of television but everybody thought I was sh*te. I have been defined by what I do. Telling the people things they want to hear every morning, trying to be that rock, that voice of reason. In my life like everyone else sh*t happens and continues to happen. I am not some demi god like you want to believe when you hear my voice. I am a man, who has fears, and worries and confidence issues like any guy. I don't let on though, because I have to be confident and sure of myself. That's what pulls in ratings and pays my wages. I have my weaknesses too but I never let on.

    Even with all my money I'm not happy. Most of it goes to my family. I spend the rest on food in the Four Seasons and a big bag of coke. Why? - Well it gets me high and I forget about the stress of trying to be strong and trying to keep it together, and the pressure of keeping the ratings steady for the show. Yeah I know, I chose this path, this career, and so I have to accept everything about it. I loathe myself sometimes, and think yeah, i'm a bit of a c*nt or I'm crap and people hate me, but the coke takes the edge of those feelings.

    My life is very public too. That's another thing that comes with the job, but I guess that's part of the price I pay. So don't hate me when I say that to a degree I have to put on this facade of being a forthright radio presenter, and alot of what I say is determined by an imaginary moral compass. I really would like to be a better person. In private I am falling apart and need someone, anyone to lean on, to help me fight my demons"
    My answer to this would be to follow the advice you have been dishing out so freely for years and seek help. I dont hate the man but I think his hypocrisy was shocking, you can make excuses and speak of stress but many people face a LOT worse and dont turn to cocaine. He was in the privledged position of been able to have afforded and have had access to medical/other help if he had sought it.


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    #490
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,981 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    ha ha people in this thread think people on tv and radio are real.


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    #491
    Godsentme
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Godsentme


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    ha ha people in this thread think people on tv and radio are real.


    i bought the indo this morning to read some news. All i got was the first 16 pages filled with ****e about a talentless, overpaid ego driven ugly hypocrite of a JUNKIE!!

    people like him make me sick, dead or alive.


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    #492
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Godsentme wrote: »
    i bought the indo this morning to read some news. .........

    First mistake there, tbh.


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    #493
    zanardi
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭zanardi


    It's so sad that Gerry Ryan dies from abusing cocaine and Veronica Guerin isn't alive to break the story.


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    #494
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Conas wrote: »
    You're so wrong my friend, and everything you wrote above is just false. Gerry took drugs because he was depressed and was clearly struggling to keep himself together. This has been well documented. He didn't take drugs because he liked them, he took them because he was in a bad place and needed something to help him cope. Sadly he took the wrong stuff.

    Poor people from families with generational neglect and drug abuse take drugs = scum

    Wealthy celebrities take drugs = depressed


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    #495
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    zanardi wrote: »
    It's so sad that Gerry Ryan dies from abusing cocaine and Veronica Guerin isn't alive to break the story.



    :rolleyes: I take it you mean veronica guerin ;)


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    #496
    gcgirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    zanardi wrote: »
    It's so sad that Gerry Ryan dies from abusing cocaine and Veronica Guerin isn't alive to break the story.
    You mean Veronica

    Yah changed it just as I posted thus damm


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    #497
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    policeman wrote: »
    If Gerry was alive and could truthfully respond perhaps it might be like this:

    "Good morning folks. G Ryan is banjaxed. I've been at this radio game for years. I did a bit of television but everybody thought I was sh*te. I have been defined by what I do. Telling the people things they want to hear every morning, trying to be that rock, that voice of reason. In my life like everyone else sh*t happens and continues to happen. I am not some demi god like you want to believe when you hear my voice. I am a man, who has fears, and worries and confidence issues like any guy. I don't let on though, because I have to be confident and sure of myself. That's what pulls in ratings and pays my wages. I have my weaknesses too but I never let on.

    Even with all my money I'm not happy. Most of it goes to my family. I spend the rest on food in the Four Seasons and a big bag of coke. Why? - Well it gets me high and I forget about the stress of trying to be strong and trying to keep it together, and the pressure of keeping the ratings steady for the show. Yeah I know, I chose this path, this career, and so I have to accept everything about it. I loathe myself sometimes, and think yeah, i'm a bit of a c*nt or I'm crap and people hate me, but the coke takes the edge of those feelings.

    My life is very public too. That's another thing that comes with the job, but I guess that's part of the price I pay. So don't hate me when I say that to a degree I have to put on this facade of being a forthright radio presenter, and alot of what I say is determined by an imaginary moral compass. I really would like to be a better person. In private I am falling apart and need someone, anyone to lean on, to help me fight my demons"
    ... and I have afforded NONE of the understanding I am now appealing for to similarly human people in similarly difficult circumstances (or worse). Feel sorry for me now but demonise them because that gets me listeners and pays off my dealer. "


    Just thought I would complete your story there.

    DeV.


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    #498
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    realies wrote: »
    :rolleyes: I take it you mean veronica guerin ;)
    too slow:D:D


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    #499
    zanardi
    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭zanardi


    gcgirl wrote: »
    You mean Veronica

    Yah changed it just as I posted thus damm

    Got me!


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    #500
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Yeah, it's the overwhelming hypocrisy that grinds.
    That is all.


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    #501
    Nolanger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Bendihorse wrote: »
    Any Surprises in there?
    Yeah, as long you keep off the coke when you're fat, middle-aged and alcoholic your heart will be OK.


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    #502
    carrolls
    Registered Users Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    DeVore wrote: »
    ... and I have afforded NONE of the understanding I am now appealing for to similarly human people in similarly difficult circumstances (or worse). Feel sorry for me now but demonise them because that gets me listeners and pays off my dealer. "


    Just thought I would complete your story there.

    DeV.
    Hmmm. Ok the cocaine changed his personality for the worse and he became a completely different person in recent years to the Radio 2 shock jock guy of 20 years ago, but for his familys sake, let him RIP.:o


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    #503
    keanooo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭keanooo


    slainte1 wrote: »
    The above statement is factually incorrect.

    How so?


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    #504
    slainte1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43 ✭slainte1


    keanooo wrote: »
    How so?
    Page 4 Irish Times. Read all about it!


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    #505
    Ally Dick
    Registered Users Posts: 12,700 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    I never like Ryan's show. He always sounded unprepared and making things up as he went along. I always considered him to be a selfish, egotistical glutton as well. I am delighted the truth came out about his death. It might save others from following the same path


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    #506
    Spunge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Junkie scum. Bring back the death penalty.


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    #507
    keanooo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭keanooo


    slainte1 wrote: »
    Page 4 Irish Times. Read all about it!

    I said zero commentary on the topic. Read the "articles". Like mikom said earlier, all they did was regurgitate the press releases. Is it not worthy of one opinion piece over the weekend edition?


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    #508
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Spunge wrote: »
    Junkie scum. Bring back the death penalty.

    Take your head out of your arse.


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    #509
    Refugee from RealLife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Refugee from RealLife


    Do they do inquests on everyone that dies suddenly?


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    #510
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Refugee from RealLife wrote: »
    Do they do inquests on everyone that dies suddenly?
    This should answer your question: http://www.coronerdublincity.ie//faqs/death.htm#book4


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    #511
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Refugee from RealLife wrote: »
    Do they do inquests on everyone that dies suddenly?

    Apparently so, if the "death cannot be explained"

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/death/sudden_or_unexplained_death/inquests.html


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