Gerry Ryan Inquest

DrumSteve

Whats next on the Ryan Line?

Irish Slaves for Europe

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Too bad Gerry didn't have the same outlook when talking about junkies.

Comments like that mean you are no better than him. Theres so many people taking delight in this story, they are nothing but hypocrites.

Copper23

Look, the guy was a radio personality and any radio personality has to "play" a certain part. Some like it, some don't.

That asside the guy was a big asset to Ireland, he was a well known guy who was on the peoples side and not afraid to speak his mind.

I think it pretty sad to be posting these kind of articles here.

Monty Burnz

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

The level of smugness and sanctimonious preaching in this thread is truely shocking, some of you really need to get off your pedestal.

And some people need to decide what kind of society they want to live in, and exactly how much hypocrisy they want from public figures. Will you be lecturing us for complaining about the Catholic Church child abusers next?

"Oh, you guys are so sanctimonious, sure we've all done it...blah blah blah"

mariaf24

whycliff wrote: »

Ok, prove the "fact".

TV licence pays a fraction of Ryan's wages...Ryan buys cocaine...cocaine comes from South America... = Your TV licence is contributing towards criminal activity.

Ah come on i said i was exaggerating, Loose fact not Fact fact :pac:

Orando Broom

She obviously knew he used coke if she felt ground rules were required.

Monty Burnz

Copper23 wrote: »

Look, the guy was a radio personality and any radio personality has to "play" a certain part. Some like it, some don't.

That asside the guy was a big asset to Ireland, he was a well known guy who was on the peoples side and not afraid to speak his mind.

I think it pretty sad to be posting these kind of articles here.

Yes, let's pretend he wasn't a hard-drug using hypocrite at all. 'On the people's side'? Did you read the excerpts from his book?

On the one hand you say he has to play a certain part, then you say that he was on the people's side. Did it ever occur to you that that was part of his act?

BlaasForRafa

whycliff wrote: »

Maybe he was a hypocrite, but he was hardly going to come on the Radio Strung off his face and say he done Coke last night out of the crack of a hooker?
I think yee should try it listeners?!
He told his listeners what they wanted to hear, he was maybe an actor more than a hypocrite.

No. He was a hypocrite, I don't see why you are trying to deflect criticism of him.

aidan24326

whycliff wrote: »

So what, thats the way he lived, and he told everyone about it.

It's not what he wrote but the way it was said, with such big-time-charlie smugness, and it was quite in-your-face stuff considering the book was released just as the country sank into rscesssion. It was a bit 'look at me little people, look how us wealthy types live, only first-class travel and a penthouse in Manhattan will do for me'. Bear in mind he's paid from public funds, imagine if a politician was openly boasting about his lavish lifestyle.

Lord Trollington

mariaf24 wrote: »

TV licence pays a fraction of Ryan's wages...Ryan buys cocaine...cocaine comes from South America... = Your TV licence is contributing towards criminal activity.

Ah come on i said i was exaggerating, Loose fact not Fact fact :pac:

Without sound pedantic, what you said is "our tv licence money ends up in Colombia and that's fact"
nothing about contributing to criminal activity.
Its pretty certain it contributed to criminal activity as he did buy illegal drugs, sold by a criminal.

Irish Slaves for Europe

Monty Burnz wrote: »

And some people need to decide what kind of society they want to live in, and exactly how much hypocrisy they want from public figures. Will you be lecturing us for complaining about the Catholic child abusers next?

"Oh, you guys are so sanctimonious, sure we've all done it...blah blah blah"

Yeah you are completely right to take my point about celebrating the misery of others, and to conclude that I'm probably pro child abuse. Thats not hyperbole, you've made a fair point, I see I've met my intellectual match in you.

gaeilgebeo

DubDani wrote: »

Not wanting to sound mean, but why does his death require an inquest that probably costs the state quite a bit of money again?

He is dead, and if they are sure that he was not killed, then that's it. If I would die under the same circumstances, then there wouldn't be an inquest either.

Complete waste of taxpayers money IMO.

There are often inquests into deaths, be it a "celebrity" or any old Joe Soap!

Duh

Monty Burnz

whycliff wrote: »

Its pretty certain it contributed to criminal activity as he did buy illegal drugs, sold by a criminal.

Agreed. Some of us think that is a bad thing.

mariaf24

whycliff wrote: »

Without sound pedantic, what you said is "our tv licence money ends up in Colombia and that's fact"
nothing about contributing to criminal activity.
Its pretty certain it contributed to criminal activity as he did buy illegal drugs, sold by a criminal.

Yes and these drugs come from South America, non? :P

Paparazzo

mikom wrote: »

No they can spend their excessive wages on whatever they like, then rub our noses in it.
Take Gerrys autobiography for example



Some more gems....

I remember on his show he was like a spokesman for property developers. Laughing at people in his office that don't have a second property, telling people they're crazy not to but at the height of the boom. Very irresponsible stuff.

whycliff wrote: »

So what, thats the way he lived, and he told everyone about it.

It was a book. Why would he say I flew to New York and went to a U2 concert when he could say what he really done and sell more books.

I dont get some people. Hello he had a habit to feed?!

I notice you didn't comment on gerrys comments on berthie or property developers, just the first quote

Monty Burnz

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Yeah you are completely right to take my point about celebrating the misery of others, and to conclude that I'm probably pro child abuse. Thats not hyperbole or exaggeration, you've made a fair point, I see I've met my intellectual match in you.

Who is celebrating the misery of others? Please explain. Thanks in advance.

Lord Trollington

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes, let's pretend he wasn't a hard-drug using hypocrite at all. 'On the people's side'? Did you read the excerpts from his book?

On the one hand you say he has to play a certain part, then you say that he was on the people's side. Did it ever occur to you that that was part of his act?

All I would like to know is why you feel so passionate about the whole thing, what he do on you? does he owe you money for a deal?

superelliptic

chordtype wrote: »

If only he lived long enough for this weather. Loved a bit of the white stuff.

Im still loling...:pac:

Irish Slaves for Europe

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Who is celebrating the misery of others? Please explain. Thanks in advance.

have a read of the thread, look at the glee and smugness being expressed

Lord Trollington

mariaf24 wrote: »

Yes and these drugs come from South America, non? :P

Can you prove his drugs came from South America as fact?

and that the money he spent is on south america now.

No.

mikom

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

have a read of the thread, look at the glee and smugness being expressed

What is this..... Saving private Ryan.

Wertz

whycliff wrote: »

Everything we do on a daily basis provides an outlet for criminal gangs.
People smoking results in demand for counterfeit cigarettes.
Diesel in cars results in counterfeit diesel over the border.

You've inadvertently highlighted the problem as to why the criminal gangs target such commodities:

High prices for cigarettes (due to exchequer loading excise) lead to smuggling/counterfeit.
High taxes on white diesel creates a market for any cheaper solution including washing untaxed kerosene/green diesel for re-sale.

Following that logic, prohibition of drugs like cocaine leads to high prices, questionable quality and the secretive nature of it's use particularly in celebrity circles, for fear that it damges their public profile.

whycliff wrote: »

No I couldn't stand him. I'm a Ray Darcy man myself. He'd never touch Coke.

Yeah he strikes me as more of a Pepsi man.
No way is Darcy a coke head...he's too f*cking boring.

mike65 wrote: »

and naturally someone tried to start a thread marking 3 years since "poor Katie" died

oops, 3 years, post edited.

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

The level of smugness and sanctimonious preaching in this thread is truely shocking, some of you really need to get off your pedestal.

As opposed to the smug santimony preached by the man in question most mornings?
I take no delight in the death of anyone be it through drugs or any other medium....but I take some small satisfaction away from knowing that someone who came across as a vehement anti-drug advocate and was generally conservative in their views, was in fact just as fallible as anyone else who decides to dabble in cocaine.

Handsome Bob

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

Comments like that mean you are no better than him. Theres so many people taking delight in this story, they are nothing but hypocrites.

I couldn't give a toss about what he got up to in his own time. But as you said originally, what I do have a problem with are hypocrites who take part in a bit of double standards.

Monty Burnz

whycliff wrote: »

All I would like to know is why you feel so passionate about the whole thing, what he do on you? does he owe you money for a deal?

I actually don't feel passionate about it at all. I just pointed out that he is a hypocrite, which you seem to have a problem with. If anything, I'm baffled as to why you are so passionate about defending his hypocrisy? It seems pretty black and white to be honest.

Monty Burnz

Irish Slaves for Europe wrote: »

have a read of the thread, look at the glee and smugness being expressed

Please give an example. If you can give an example written by me you get a million bonuse points. Thanks.

mikom

Monty Burnz wrote: »

It seems pretty black and white to be honest.

More white, to be honest

Copper23

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes, let's pretend he wasn't a hard-drug using hypocrite at all. 'On the people's side'? Did you read the excerpts from his book?

On the one hand you say he has to play a certain part, then you say that he was on the people's side. Did it ever occur to you that that was part of his act?

Or maybe I' just not as synical about the world.
My opinion is that its a bit sad that people will use anything to drag a dead man down.

He was an Irishman and a well known personality. I didn't follow him religiously myself but he was always good for a laugh on the TV and so on.

I don't know why people use any reason to drag other down, he died, he was relatively young and it is a shame.

Paracore

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty Burnz
Yes, let's pretend he wasn't a hard-drug using hypocrite at all. 'On the people's side'? Did you read the excerpts from his book?

On the one hand you say he has to play a certain part, then you say that he was on the people's side. Did it ever occur to you that that was part of his act?

All I would like to know is why you feel so passionate about the whole thing, what he do on you? does he owe you money for a deal?

Just on the whycliff I'd liked to ask you where you riding him?

mikom

Copper23 wrote: »

He was an Irishman and a well known personality.

Bertie was as well.

Lord Trollington

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I actually don't feel passionate about it at all. I just pointed out that he is a hypocrite, which you seem to have a problem with. If anything, I'm baffled as to why you are so passionate about defending his hypocrisy? It seems pretty black and white to be honest.

I briefly defended the hypocrite jibe in passing, he took Cocaine so f*ck.
And he criticised criminals.

He wasnt the first, he wont be the last. And Yes his money went to criminals.

So has all of ours for the last 8 years and we're giving them more over the coming year. And we're giving them a bonus for the good of it also.

mikom

whycliff wrote: »

He wasnt the first, he wont be the last. And Yes his money went to criminals.

So has all of ours for the last 8 years and we're giving them more over the coming year. And we're giving them a bonus for the good of it also.

Against our will.

Copper23

mikom wrote: »

Bertie was as well.

jesus, well if you copy and paste any selection of words from my post you can pretty much take any meaning you want from it... luckily, the literate will see there was a lot more context the that.

Lord Trollington

Paracore wrote: »

Just on the whycliff I'd liked to ask you where you riding him?

What kind of personal question is that to ask, you can read all in my book soon to be released.

mikom

Copper23 wrote: »

luckily, the literate will see there was a lot more context the that.

lol, open goal.

Monty Burnz

Copper23 wrote: »

I don't know why people use any reason to drag other down, he died, he was relatively young and it is a shame.

How are we dragging him down? Some new information has come out about the guy that shows he was a hard drug user, even though he lectured the Irish people about the evils of drugs and the criminal gangs who profit from them.

This is not something that we are doing, this is something that Gerry Ryan did that the public now knows about. If that affects how we perceive Gerry Ryan, it is his fault, not ours.

This bizarre Irish attitude that you can't say anything negative about dead people - even if they are true - is totally ridiculous. I guess if Larry Murphy died, we wouldn't be able to 'drag him down' either by mentioning the fact that he is an evil rapist?

Crazy attitude.

Monty Burnz

mikom wrote: »

lol, open goal.

Don't be mean

Copper23

mikom wrote: »

lol, open goal.

And he does it again... keep going, shower yourself in glory.

Lord Trollington

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How are we dragging him down? Some new information has come out about the guy that shows he was a hard drug user, even though he lectured the Irish people about the evils of drugs and the criminal gangs who profit from them.

This is not something that we are doing, this is something that Gerry Ryan did that the public now knows about. If that affects how we perceive Gerry Ryan, it is his fault, not ours.

This bizarre Irish attitude that you can't say anything negative about dead people - even if they are true - is totally ridiculous. I guess if Larry Murphy died, we wouldn't be able to 'drag him down' either by mentioning the fact that he is an evil rapist?

Crazy attitude.

Hold on now, surely your not comparing the use of recreational drugs to rape and attempted murder of a woman?

Cavehill Red

So Ryan was a bankrupt pontificating cokehead hypocrite who lied to his other half about his drug problem.

Celtic Tiger poster boy, in other words.

pookie82

Monty Burnz wrote: »

How are we dragging him down? Some new information has come out about the guy that shows he was a hard drug user, even though he lectured the Irish people about the evils of drugs and the criminal gangs who profit from them.

This is not something that we are doing, this is something that Gerry Ryan did that the public now knows about. If that affects how we perceive Gerry Ryan, it is his fault, not ours.

This bizarre Irish attitude that you can't say anything negative about dead people - even if they are true - is totally ridiculous. I guess if Larry Murphy died, we wouldn't be able to 'drag him down' either by mentioning the fact that he is an evil rapist?

Crazy attitude.

No point in engaging with these posts/opinions. I remember not so long ago the amount of pontificating sh*te that flooded these boards when he died because you can't speak ill of the dead blah blah blah.

The guy was a f*cking smug prick who coked himself to death and spent the time he was alive preaching to others about the evils of that kind of lifestyle. Anyone who still claims that no one can talk about this because he's deceased is an idiot.

Monty Burnz

whycliff wrote: »

Hold on now, surely your not comparing the use of recreational drugs to rape and attempted murder of a woman?

No - are you?

mikom

Ok, let's calm things down a bit.
At least Gerry was against the headshops....... /sarcasm

RTE broadcaster Gerry Ryan spoke about a new Headshop in the leafy suburb yesterday, but urged residents not to use violence against the store.
The opinionated star has put his weight behind a campaign by local residents to show their strong opposition to the controversial new premises, which opened on St Patrick's Day.
Residents in the posh northside suburb are disgusted that the 'D3 Head Shop' is selling a range of legal highs in such a prominent location, between a row of upmarket boutiques and restaurants.

He added that if parents felt something unsavoury was coming into their community, they had every right to say 'no'.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/gerry-calls-for-peaceful-protest-as-headshop-windows-are-smashed-in-2104735.html

This fuckin' country is upside down

mariaf24

mariaf24 wrote: »

To be fair though, Irish people are very naive

Speak for yourself

Monty Burnz

pookie82 wrote: »

I remember not so long ago the amount of pontificating sh*te that flooded these boards when he died because you can't speak ill of the dead blah blah blah.

pookie82 wrote: »

Anyone who still claims that no one can talk about this because he's deceased is an idiot.

I just can't get my head around that attitude. It's just one of these 'received wisdom' things in Irish society that a lot of people never seem to question or think about for themselves. Maybe that was why DeValera signed the book of condolence when a certain German lad killed himself?

"No point in saying anything bad about the fella, sure he's dead now..."

Lord Trollington

pookie82 wrote: »

No point in engaging with these posts/opinions. I remember not so long ago the amount of pontificating sh*te that flooded these boards when he died because you can't speak ill of the dead blah blah blah.

The guy was a f*cking smug prick who coked himself to death and spent the time he was alive preaching to others about the evils of that kind of lifestyle. Anyone who still claims that no one can talk about this because he's deceased is an idiot.

Thats a bit much no??

Has it been proven that Cocaine was the cause of his death?

Lord Trollington

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I just can't get my head around that attitude. It's just one of these 'received wisdom' things in Irish society that a lot of people never seem to question or think about for themselves. Maybe that was why DeValera signed the book of condolence when a certain German lad killed himself?

"No point in saying anything bad about the fella, sure he's dead now..."

I think its more of mehhh whats the point rather than you can't speak ill of the dead.

I mean it has no effect on the person themselves whatsoever.

Its just his wife, family and kids thats left behind that it may effect.

Personally I think if something needs to be said about someone, be them dead or alive and its warranted, then it should be said.

Nozebleed

Fat Coke head spends TAX Payers Money on COCAINE...

Wertz

whycliff wrote: »

Hold on now, surely your not comparing the use of recreational drugs to rape and attempted murder of a woman?

He's not and you know it...he's using an extreme analogy to back up his argument and you're being pedantic about it.

FWIW our drug laws take the supply of drugs at relatively small levels MORE seriously than rape or attempted murder as can be evidenced by the snetencing that get's passed down in the Irish court system every week.
You know of course that being arrested under the newest drug legislation allows you to be held for up to 7 days without charge...someone arrested for murder or rape can be held for a maximum of 24 hrs (or 48hrs with court extension) without charge...hell even Sec 31 (offences against State) only allows 72 hrs custody without charge or extension.

This is the level of hypocrisy you're dealing with at a national level in this coutry...that someone supplying drugs is a greater danger than a potential murderer, rapist or terrorist.

Rookster

He joins Katy French in that great "smack house" in the sky.

pookie82

whycliff wrote: »

Thats a bit much no??

Has it been proven that Cocaine was the cause of his death?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1210/breaking32.html

"It heard toxicology tests carried out as part of postmortem examinations found he had traces of cocaine in his system which showed recent use.

Pathology reports showed the cause of death was cardiac arrhythmia, most likely caused by cocaine consumption."