Mass Effect 3

degrassinoel

If those endings had of been part of the initial launch i'd bet ME3 would have scored a perfect 10 everywhere.

btw, there is a 5th ending.. kind of

you can shoot the kid and get the 'reject all choices' ending

FutureGuy

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Is it odd I want more info on the rumoured next MP DLC more than SP DLC??

Nope, MP is great imho. I got really bored of when geth gold runs were the norm to harvest gold, but since switching back to Silver random, I've really enjoyed it again.

Rocking a Batarian Sentinel and Vorcha Soldier at the moment. Great fun

Zero-Cool

Saw on the bargain alerts thread ME 3 is 18.99 euro in Argos

https://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10152&catalogId=13352&langId=111&searchTerms=mass+effect+3&authToken=35304503%252cL4uR%252fJxHnLy7LjhsIMwM%252bs33RWw%253d

Kiith

FutureGuy wrote: »

Nope, MP is great imho. I got really bored of when geth gold runs were the norm to harvest gold, but since switching back to Silver random, I've really enjoyed it again.

Rocking a Batarian Sentinel and Vorcha Soldier at the moment. Great fun

As someone who was originally "Mulitiplayer in Mass Effect! **** you Bioware/EA/World!!", i'll happily stand up and apologise. They really did a great job with it, and offered a really enjoyable mp game. Enjoying getting my rating back up to full on my current playthrough.

ghouldaddy

Really pissed at Sony over the wait for this.:mad:

Eggy Baby!

Josey Wales wrote: »

So was any of the gameplay sections different? Or did it play just the same as before but with a new video to watch at the end?

The team had a few things extra to say before the actual offensive towards the Citadel beam apparently but I just rushed past them not thinking it would happen.

Varik

Still not up on origin for me, seen some people say that it has for them.

MultiUmm

I haven't played online in months, will I need to get my galactic readiness up to 100% again to achieve the "good ending"? What a pain in the arse that'll be, I tired of it months ago so it's probably back down to 50% ...

Sad Professor

degrassinoel wrote: »

If those endings had of been part of the initial launch i'd bet ME3 would have scored a perfect 10 everywhere.

btw, there is a 5th ending.. kind of

you can shoot the kid and get the 'reject all choices' ending

Yeah, I did this accidentally on my first play-through of the extended cut. I found it quite annoying as I then had to play-through the final level again to get one of the proper endings.

Mr. K

MultiUmm wrote: »

I haven't played online in months, will I need to get my galactic readiness up to 100% again to achieve the "good ending"? What a pain in the arse that'll be, I tired of it months ago so it's probably back down to 50% ...

It doesn't need to be anywhere near 100%. Mine was down to 50% when I loaded up the game. I played three multiplayer games just in case, but I think Bioware reduced the number needed to unlock the

Synthesis ending

.

Meesared

Its 3100 now from what Im aware

SeantheMan

I read Futureguys take on the endings, v.good !

I uninstalled the 3 ME games off my SSD to make space about a month ago, so can't be bothered playing through again atm :P , guess I'll have to watch youtube vids.

But happy that they cleared up a lot of things

Browning2010

Ok first of all this is my first play through so no spoiles please,

I'm trying to do the mission, Rannoch: Admiral Koris but it doesn't seem to be available, yet its still highlighted in the journal, I'm thinking its because I already done Priority: Rannoch that they won't let me do it which sucks if I'm right?.

Remouad

I bought ME3 ages ago on ps3 but wanted to do both a renegade and a paragon play through of ME2 before I started.

The only bit of DLC I have left to do is Arrival and I'm just wondering if it's worth getting or should I just jump into ME3?

Mr Freeze

Remouad wrote: »

I bought ME3 ages ago on ps3 but wanted to do both a renegade and a paragon play through of ME2 before I started.

The only bit of DLC I have left to do is Arrival and I'm just wondering if it's worth getting or should I just jump into ME3?

Save your money.

Arrival is not great, and ME3 practically ignores it anyways, bar a few references.

Just watched the endings just there and they're done so much more better. For me, the Refusal ending was one of the best. I don't know if this needs to be spoilered, but I would have loved an additional "refusal" one, where Sheppard decides (s)he doesn't want to help the Universe because they've grown weary of the atrocities they've seen.

On the Refusal ending, I thought it was quite a nice touch where Sheppard looks out the window and sees the Normandy being destroyed

Browning2010

I've just finished the game for the first time(with the extended cut scenes) and I havent got a flipping clue what happend at the end.

Anyone care to tell me which ending I got if I PM them what happend at the end and explain to me what it was all about?

J. Marston

Just post it.

Browning2010

It came to the point were I had to choose what to do so I was walking with my gun in hand I decide I'll turn around and shoot the kid and see what happens, some voice then said "So you've made your choice" it then went to the credits.. and then showed a scene with a woman talking with a child in the snow?

I'm also confused because I never got any achievements for completing the game?

Eggy Baby!

That was the refusal 2 ending. It is a bit like the refusal 1 ending but has a long scene omitted.

I really wish the refusal ending would show a victory if you had high enough EMS. EMS is basically useless even though you spend the entire game building it up.

Browning2010

Well I wasn't happy with that ending so I restarted the mission and choose to destroy the reapers, which would have been my preferred ending.

A quick question lads, before the extended cut was released, what were the ending options and the outcome of these options?

And what has the new endings added?

Eggy Baby!

Three ending options: Red, Green, Blue.


All differed only slightly.

The new endings have introduced a lot more epilogue scenes, such as showing the Krogan with babies, London and earth being rebuilt..etc

Also a few more clarification scenes were added, as well as more dialogue options.

SeantheMan

Browning2010 wrote: »

Ok first of all this is my first play through so no spoiles please,

I'm trying to do the mission, Rannoch: Admiral Koris but it doesn't seem to be available, yet its still highlighted in the journal, I'm thinking its because I already done Priority: Rannoch that they won't let me do it which sucks if I'm right?.

Dont visit this thread if you don't want Spoilers.
The game has been out months and most likely completed by everyone here.

ixoy

Does anyone know if many of the cut scenes change between the new endings? For example I noticed:

Kasumi Goto re-unites with Keiji in the synthesis ending but not in any of the other ones. This is presumably because he's sort of tech and they combine? Something like that.

Any others? Other than the obvious closing moment and voice overs.

DeSelby83

What's the refusal ending or how do I get it

degrassinoel

ye get it by refusing all the options the starbrat gives ye, or by simply shooting the little fecker in his face

ZeitgeistGlee

degrassinoel wrote: »

ye get it by refusing all the options the starbrat gives ye, or by simply shooting the little fecker in his face

So many people are going to get that ending unintentionally.

Potential-Monke

Watched them online, and happy i did. They are definitely better than the on-disc endings, why they weren't like that from day 1 is beyond me. And after watching them, i'm torn between Control and Synthesis. The control one is the one i picked initially, and this version makes me feel better for it. But that synthesis ending leaves Edi and (in my playthrough) Legion alive. The two characters i liked the most!!

Gah, if they ever release a ME4 and it continues the story, i think i'd go with systhesis. But i think they've put any possible sequels out of the equation. Whatever about the last few games, these endings have too much scope to cover all possibly endings in another game. Interesting to see where the ME universe and franchise is going to go, surely all prequels?

ZeitgeistGlee

Potential-Monke wrote: »

But that synthesis ending

leaves Edi and (in my playthrough) Legion

alive. The two characters i liked the most!!

I was under the impression

Legion dies/uploads and disseminates himself no matter what decisions you make on Rannoch.

How did you manage that?

fergalr

I thought that the new endings were much better than the old ones.
The suddenness with which the original endings concluded, and the unanswered questions about the consequences of the final choice the player made were really bad writing, the first time around.


One thing in the extended cut really made no sense to me, though, and kind of annoys me.

The scene with the normandy medivac made no sense, and was bad writing.

The entire assault of London is just to get people to the beam.
100s of ships have been sacrificed, and countless ground troops killed, all trying to reach the beam.
Trillions of lives hinge on someone getting through, etc; nothing else matters.

Our heroes are ~200m from the beam. Someone gets hurt on the suicide run.

Shepard stops. To arrange a medevac.
The normandy magically arrives out of nowhere, and does a pickup, while everyone waits. Its like an old kit-kat ad.

Four armed normandy marines stand on the normandy ramp.
They do not run to the beam.
These marines get back on the normandy and fly away.


If the normandy can just come in, and land, beside the beam, why didn't it do that when the reaper destroyer, earlier, was advancing on Shepard, and drop someone off? Even leaving that aside:

Shepard wouldn't have stopped.
If the Normandy could get there at all, it should have been deploying more troops.

Really, EDI should have just crashed the Normandy into harbinger.

That scene made no sense to me, and the ending would have been much stronger without it.

J. Marston

fergalr wrote: »

I thought that the new endings were much better than the old ones.
The suddenness with which the original endings concluded, and the unanswered questions about the consequences of the final choice the player made were really bad writing, the first time around.


One thing in the extended cut really made no sense to me, though, and kind of annoys me.

The scene with the normandy medivac made no sense, and was bad writing.

The entire assault of London is just to get people to the beam.
100s of ships have been sacrificed, and countless ground troops killed, all trying to reach the beam.
Trillions of lives hinge on someone getting through, etc; nothing else matters.

Our heroes are ~200m from the beam. Someone gets hurt on the suicide run.

Shepard stops. To arrange a medevac.
The normandy magically arrives out of nowhere, and does a pickup, while everyone waits. Its like an old kit-kat ad.

Four armed normandy marines stand on the normandy ramp.
They do not run to the beam.
These marines get back on the normandy and fly away.


If the normandy can just come in, and land, beside the beam, why didn't it do that when the reaper destroyer, earlier, was advancing on Shepard, and drop someone off? Even leaving that aside:

Shepard wouldn't have stopped.
If the Normandy could get there at all, it should have been deploying more troops.

Really, EDI should have just crashed the Normandy into harbinger.

That scene made no sense to me, and the ending would have been much stronger without it.

They painted themselves into a corner with the original ending where your squadmates magically find themselves back on the Normandy after Shepard gets hit by the beam. Plus it was one of the biggest questions from people regarding the ending: ''I brought X and X as my squadmates, how did they end up back on the Normandy?''. So I suppose Bioware had to cobble something together to explain that and the result isn't exactly airtight. Like why didn't Harbinger just fire his laser at the Normandy while it was hovering around 100ft away from the beam? But I suppose it's just part of the ending that Bioware probably hope you don't look into too much. Doesn't bother me, I prefer some kind of explanation rather than none even if it seems a little implausible.

Potential-Monke

ZeitgeistGlee wrote: »

Potential-Monke wrote: »

But that synthesis ending

leaves Edi and (in my playthrough) Legion

alive. The two characters i liked the most!!

I was under the impression

Legion dies/uploads and disseminates himself no matter what decisions you make on Rannoch.

How did you manage that?

Alas, you're right. Still liked Edi though.

ZeitgeistGlee

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Alas, you're right. Still liked Edi though.

Ah right, I'd have been raging if it was possible seeing as I

managed to get the Geth and the Quarian to actually make peace with one another

which I thought was the best ending there. Who survived for you other than EDI then if it wasn't

Legion

? You have me kinda curious.

Browning2010

Having now played through all the possible endings I still think the destroy ending is the best.

The mission was to get rid of the reapers and that is what the destroy option delivers.

I appreciated the synthesis ending but I was all ways wary of any of the AIs in the game so didn't mind them been wiped out when I chose the destroy option.

The control ending was wrong, anything Cerbrus taught was right was wrong imo besides bringing Shep back obviously.

Kiith

Spoilers from Bioware about the Destroy ending...

So, apparently Bioware have confirmed that Shepard is indeed alive at the end of the Destroy ending. Only happens with Destroy, and it's not confirmed as canon but will probably be.

http://kotaku.com/5922726/bioware-confirms-what-you-want-to-know-about-the-red-ending-of-mass-effect-3

ZeitgeistGlee

Not surprised it's been confirmed and as much as I'd like

to take up the reins as Shepard again in another game, I'm not sure I'd like the Destroy ending being the canon one. Fought hard to make peace between the Geth and the Quarian, and Legion was one of my favourite characters. That said Control's Reaper Jesus and Synthesis's Magic Space DNA have their own flaws too.

Potential-Monke

ZeitgeistGlee wrote: »

Ah right, I'd have been raging if it was possible seeing as I

managed to get the Geth and the Quarian to actually make peace with one another

which I thought was the best ending there. Who survived for you other than EDI then if it wasn't

Legion

? You have me kinda curious.

Correct me if I accidently say someone else lived when they definitely died, but,

Kaiden died in ME1, no-one died in ME2, and Legion, Morden and Thanos(?) all sacrificed themselves in 3, along with a few other non-important secondary characters, such as the Turians who died so I could save the boss!

Browning2010

Potential-Monke wrote: »

ZeitgeistGlee wrote: »

Correct me if I accidently say someone else lived when they definitely died, but,

Kaiden died in ME1, no-one died in ME2, and Legion, Morden and Thanos(?) all sacrificed themselves in 3, along with a few other non-important secondary characters, such as the Turians who died so I could save the boss!

+1... That's exactly what happened in mine..

ZeitgeistGlee

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Correct me if I accidently say someone else lived when they definitely died, but,

Kaiden died in ME1, no-one died in ME2, and Legion, Morden and Thanos(?) all sacrificed themselves in 3, along with a few other non-important secondary characters, such as the Turians who died so I could save the boss!

Same for me, I sort of feel bad about leaving Kaiden in ME1 because Ashley really annoyed me in ME3, but I was not listening to Raphael Sbarge whine his way through another game like he did with Carth in KOTOR.

Blazer

I'm wondering if I will even bother replaying it to be honest.
I loved ME1, was dissapointed with ME2 till I replayed it and it was awesome in fairness, ME3 was also brilliant upto to the last 5 minutes..for me that just turned me off it completely.

FutureGuy

As much as I would love another game with the same characters and crew, any new ME game needs to move to a brand new set of characters or to a new time period.

Each person here has had a ME playthrough where different characters have lived and died, and where different choices have been made at the very end.

If they made a sequel to ME3, they would need to have a generic beginning which rewrites most our personal experiences.

I would rather a new protagonist and a new set of circumstances unrelated to the characters of the first trilogy. Best way to do this is just to skip 50 years ahead.

DeSelby83

Or possibly skip back to when the mass relays were discovered and then go from there about discovering new races and the lead up to how they got to the citadel or something. Personally I loved all 3 games and would have no objections no more mass edfect

J. Marston

FutureGuy wrote: »

As much as I would love another game with the same characters and crew, any new ME game needs to move to a brand new set of characters or to a new time period.

Each person here has had a ME playthrough where different characters have lived and died, and where different choices have been made at the very end.

If they made a sequel to ME3, they would need to have a generic beginning which rewrites most our personal experiences.

I would rather a new protagonist and a new set of circumstances unrelated to the characters of the first trilogy. Best way to do this is just to skip 50 years ahead.

Don't Asari live for something like 1000 years? So even if they skipped 50 years ahead, Liara would probably still squirm her way into the plot.

ZeitgeistGlee

Krogan are fairly long-lived too, even if Wrex was gone isn't Grunt still only an adolescent by their physiological standards?

I think Grunt is technically adolescent by anyone's standards - isn't he really less than 3?

Gbear

I think a cool angle would be something like the Rachni wars.
You could be an Asari or something.
It could have the undercurrent of the Reapers controlling the Rachni.

Perhaps the protagonist discovers it, saves the galaxy but dies and their knowledge of the Reapers would die with them.

Slightly in the future would seem a bit strange. Without the Reapers I'm not sure the story would be satisfying, especially seeing as they were wound up in metaphysical bollox at the end of ME3.
I'd rather that they were unreasonable space machines of death existing only to assimilate and kill rather than being an "answer to chaos" or whatever ****e they were supposed to be.
Mysterious origins would've been better than nonsense ones.

They could throw a curve ball and take the refusal ending as canon.
The start could be some random alien discovering one of Liara's capsules.

To be honest though, I think I'd prefer if they just let the franchise die.

ShiverinEskimo

Folks, can we all be careful about spoiler tags for the current ending when discussing where it could go?

I've not seen the extended cut ending but I'm sure there will be folk who haven't seen any ending yet.

Potential-Monke

I thought we were past the spoiler tags about 20 odd pages back? Granted, the new endings have some new stuff in them, but at 154 pages in i don't think anyone could be chastised for not using them.

As for the next game in the series, i think they should go back to when humans were just starting proper space exploration and meeting other races, going through the different wars, and fighting for a place on the council! Or even back to before the Reapers last done their job, the lead up to that.

noodler

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I thought we were past the spoiler tags about 20 odd pages back? Granted, the new endings have some new stuff in them, but at 154 pages in i don't think anyone could be chastised for not using them.

As for the next game in the series, i think they should go back to when humans were just starting proper space exploration and meeting other races, going through the different wars, and fighting for a place on the council! Or even back to before the Reapers last done their job, the lead up to that.

Have to agree.

What one arth are you reading this for if you are worried about not knowing the extended endings.

ZeitgeistGlee

Thread could still do with a spoiler warning at least if people aren't going to tag major stuff.