Mass Effect 3

Blazer

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Did they ever fix the ending in this game?

I remember people saying/hoping the ending was actually indoctrination. It was really **** either way.

Wouldn't matter if they did..that ending single-handedly destroyed all my interest in the trilogy which I loved right upto that point. I'd been playing ME since it's original launch and have multiple endings prepared for the multiple endings promised in ME3 and they fúcked us over.

I watched Lost for the entire 5 years or so and if I ever was introduced to a chap who said he was involved in the ending I'll probably knock him to the ground and punch the face off him.
If I met a guy who said he worked on the ME3 ending I'll probably kill him on the spot.

Glebee

Playing through ME3 for the first time at the moment and I recon im about 60% through. So far is all a bit mehhhh, if you know what I mean. Its an ok game but not loving it at all.. Just want to get it completed.

Blazer

Glebee wrote: »

Playing through ME3 for the first time at the moment and I recon im about 60% through. So far is all a bit mehhhh, if you know what I mean. Its an ok game but not loving it at all.. Just want to get it completed.

You poor bastard. If you throw your controller through the TV no one will blame you at the ending.
Have you played 1 and 2?
I actually thought 3 was fantastic and very involving right upto that last 5 mins.

J. Marston

Josey Wales wrote: »

There is a sale on the PSN Store today. All the Mass Effect 3 DLC has been massively discounted. I've got Leviathan and Citadel downloading at the moment. I loved Mass Effect 3 back when I played but I couldn't justify buying the DLC at full price. Looking forward to jumping back into the universe for a few hours.

Is it just for today do you know? Might get Citadel and Omega if they're cheap.

Glebee

Blazer wrote: »

You poor bastard. If you throw your controller through the TV no one will blame you at the ending.
Have you played 1 and 2?
I actually thought 3 was fantastic and very involving right upto that last 5 mins.

Yes, Played 1 and 2, Had 3 sitting gathering dust so I said I might as well give it a whirll.

Mr Freeze

Glebee wrote: »

Playing through ME3 for the first time at the moment and I recon im about 60% through. So far is all a bit mehhhh, if you know what I mean. Its an ok game but not loving it at all.. Just want to get it completed.

It was the weakest of the 3 games, but had it a decent ending, it may have saved it from ridicule.

I played it through a second time on the hardest difficulty, and did some things different, no difference at all at the end, the game is just a cover based corridor shooter, with limited dialogue choices and general choices compared to the first game.

It has it moments, but never really hits the highs of Mass Effect 1 or 2.

The ending ruined the trilogy for me, when I played ME1, I thought this is a game I could play again in 10 years time, play the whole trilogy again. Well I deleted ever bit of Mass Effect off my HDD, and I won't be going back to it ever.

pixelburp

Mr Freeze wrote: »

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It has it moments, but never really hits the highs of Mass Effect 1 or 2.

The ending ruined the trilogy for me, when I played ME1, I thought this is a game I could play again in 10 years time, play the whole trilogy again. Well I deleted ever bit of Mass Effect off my HDD, and I won't be going back to it ever.

Mass Effect 1 is still the purest experience of the trilogy for me, even if conventionally speaking it was the roughest, shoddiest game. Yes the Mako sections were poor and the combat lacking polish - and dear GOD the Inventory UI was beyond awful - but as a story-based experience, I loved it. Probably because at that point the universe was new and exciting, where every character, alien race and planet was an unknown quantity I was experiencing for the first time. Even the franchise itself was unknown really, I bought it on a whim because I had heard mutterings it was a classy space-opera & there it was for next-to-nothing in Game.

Inevitably, familiarity with the universe & the series meant the sequels would never hit those emotional heights, but its sprawling story and more RPG-focused gameplay still makes it my favourite. ME2 had a sloppy, shopping-list plot and ME3 was a bit of a mess for reasons well covered by now, but ME1 still holds up for me (though at least the sequels offered the romantic option I had preferred but couldn't pursue in #1; namely Tali hehe) I guess it's the closest to those raw gaming experiences from childhood when you played stuff like Mario or Zelda for the first time.

tok9

I finished ME2 & 3 in the last month or so and in terms of a game ME3 is a far superior game to ME2 and I haven't even touched the mp in it.

Ending is poor but not bad enough to ruin what was a good game.

Nody

pixelburp wrote: »

Mass Effect 1 is still the purest experience of the trilogy for me, even if conventionally speaking it was the roughest, shoddiest game. Yes the Mako sections were poor and the combat lacking polish - and dear GOD the Inventory UI was beyond awful - but as a story-based experience, I loved it. Probably because at that point the universe was new and exciting, where every character, alien race and planet was an unknown quantity I was experiencing for the first time. Even the franchise itself was unknown really, I bought it on a whim because I had heard mutterings it was a classy space-opera & there it was for next-to-nothing in Game.

Inevitably, familiarity with the universe & the series meant the sequels would never hit those emotional heights, but its sprawling story and more RPG-focused gameplay still makes it my favourite. ME2 had a sloppy, shopping-list plot and ME3 was a bit of a mess for reasons well covered by now, but ME1 still holds up for me (though at least the sequels offered the romantic option I had preferred but couldn't pursue in #1; namely Tali hehe) I guess it's the closest to those raw gaming experiences from childhood when you played stuff like Mario or Zelda for the first time.

Personally I loved Mako and it made exploring a world really mean exploring rather then sitting and scanning on a globe and send in "probes" every so often and beam down to the place to fight directly. With the Mako you got long range sniping battles or go balls in and try to rush through the enemy to get to the relevant point and could make flips and trying to get to places you should not...

ME2 and ME3 went from open world RPG to action corridor games and ruined yet another game series I prefer ME3 over ME2 simply for the scale of battles but neither were not as good as ME1 as a game in my book.

ancapailldorcha

Mass Effect 3 fixed the one thing that was wrong with it's predecessor's combat. The corridor environments meant that enemies would never attempt flanking so as long as you were in cover, you were invincible.

Gbear

Nody wrote: »

Personally I loved Mako and it made exploring a world really mean exploring rather then sitting and scanning on a globe and send in "probes" every so often and beam down to the place to fight directly. With the Mako you got long range sniping battles or go balls in and try to rush through the enemy to get to the relevant point and could make flips and trying to get to places you should not...

It was far from perfect but in the Hammerhead (which, granted, was only DLC) they had a perfect replacement.

It removed most of the finickiness from the controls and although the gun was stupid and made the game too easy it was certainly better than completely doing away with exploration.

Mind you, the side missions were a lot more fun in ME2. The cookie-cutter dungeons got boring after a while.
If they'd used the Hammerhead to explore in a similar fashion to 1 but just dropped the maps for the ME2 missions in the middle of the area it would've been the best of both worlds.

I loved ME3. It had some incredibly poignant moments, some epic set pieces and the combat was by far the most polished of the 3 games. The MP was an absolute revelation. It just strayed too far from the path they'd started on in ME 1.

Josey Wales

Just finished Leviathan. Really enjoyed the story elements but I felt a lot of the content was padded out with pointless battles. Plus the repeated visits to the lab on the Citadel was a bit of a chore. The actual confrontation with Leviathan was worth it though. Can't help but think that his would have worked better as part of the actual campaign and not as DLC.

I guess Bioware have to make that extra money.

ancapailldorcha

Josey Wales wrote: »

I guess Bioware have to make that extra money.

I think EA's behind these decisions.

Captain Chaos

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I think EA's behind these decisions.

Yeah it really shows. MS published the first game and the best by far imo then EA published 2 and 3. The story and mystery of the first game was epic and a special gaming moment for me on the 360 like playing Mario Bros 3 on the NES for the first time.

Josey Wales

I finished the Citadel DLC and thought it was terrific. It is just such good fan service. It is very rare for a game to make me laugh but some of the dialogue in Citadel had me laughing. I loved all the in-jokes and references. The Star Wars cantina reference was also excellent.

The clone story line was well done. I loved the fact that the whole team was involved and that they made such a joke over the whole issue of just picking favourites for each mission. The latter part of the DLC about hosting the party was well done with great dialogue throughout.

It is certainly the best DLC for ME3 and up there with Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Zero-Cool

Looks like the whole series is being re released for xbox one and ps4, seeing reports on a few different gaming sites. I loved the series but that journey is over, don't think I could play through it again. Although it was brilliant!

J. Marston

Certainly squeezing every penny out of that trilogy. All games released originally, then a trilogy pack and now a re-release on the next-gen consoles.

Varik

Probably would buy the next gen version, but only as it's likely cheaper than getting the last few DLC for ME3 (PC). I've got the first few but it's around €25-30 for the last few games and a remaster version could be around €40 and would drop in price unlike the PC DLC.

Kiith

Not surprised tbh, we're going to see a lot of popular games re-released on the next gen consoles. I won't buy it myself, as i have it on the pc and already own all the DLC (bar the last one).

Mitch Connor

sheehy83 wrote: »

Looks like the whole series is being re released for xbox one and ps4, seeing reports on a few different gaming sites. I loved the series but that journey is over, don't think I could play through it again. Although it was brilliant!

Its coming from a tweet that says it was discussed - from my reading of the tweet it didn't appear anything was actually done about it.

Mass Effect 4 is likely going to come out next year - so the rerelease would need to happen before the end of this year imo. If they haven't actually done anything for it yet I would be shocked if we ever saw it on XBox One or PS4.

Would love if they did redo it, and updated the combat of the first game - not sure if it could be restructured though.

Imagine how short the game would be now though, with the loading speed of the next gen consoles - those lift scenes would be shredded!

sin0city

It'd be nice if they did it and actually included every bit of DLC for each game.
That I would buy.

Fyda

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Imagine how short the game would be now though, with the loading speed of the next gen consoles - those lift scenes would be shredded!

Nooooooo! Not the lift scenes! They are awesome!

Speaking of DLCs - anyone knows where I can buy Pinnacle station for PC without buying the whole collection for 50€?
It simply disappeared from Origin some time ago and I couldn't find any information on that...:/

J. Marston

When should I play the Citadel DLC?

Fyda

J. Marston wrote: »

When should I play the Citadel DLC?

How do you mean that? At what point in the game? If yes, I'd say shortly after the Citadel Coup/Rannoch and the mini-missions where you meet the compainions from ME2 (the Ardat-Yakshi monastery, Horizon, Cerberus lab, etc. - depending on the companion who survived) so your squad is complete. (Unless of course you're going to kill/send away the other spectre).

I'd also recommend to pick a love interest before (unless you intend to stay single the whole time).

J. Marston

Fyda wrote: »

How do you mean that? At what point in the game? If yes, I'd say shortly after the Citadel Coup/Rannoch and the mini-missions where you meet the compainions from ME2 (the Ardat-Yakshi monastery, Horizon, Cerberus lab, etc. - depending on the companion who survived) so your squad is complete. (Unless of course you're going to kill/send away the other spectre).

I'd also recommend to pick a love interest before (unless you intend to stay single the whole time).

Yep, that's what I meant, I phrased it poorly.

Cheers.

Kirby

I'd recommend doing the Citadel DLC late in the game. If you do it too early, characters like Miranda wont be there as they are off doing stuff.

J. Marston

Finished the Citadel DLC.

That was great fun, the combat and all that was standard Mass Effect but all the interactions with squadmates, nods to fans and callbacks made it very enjoyable.

The best one being "I guess.....I should go."

Edit: Now I actually have to finish the game. That's a bit of a downer.

Mitch Connor

Mass Effect Trilogy has been listed for PS4 and XboxOne by some Chilean website. Not the most concrete of rumours, but my ears pricked at the mention!

I already own all 3, and have played them many times, but I reckon i would still buy and play through a next gen version many times.

Would hope for some updates to the games, but would be surprised if there were any changes, to be honest. As long as all the DLC was already included in the pack I'd be happy enough, not going to pay for it all again! (on top of the game...)

ibFoxer

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Mass Effect Trilogy has been listed for PS4 and XboxOne by some Chilean website. Not the most concrete of rumours, but my ears pricked at the mention!

I already own all 3, and have played them many times, but I reckon i would still buy and play through a next gen version many times.

Would hope for some updates to the games, but would be surprised if there were any changes, to be honest. As long as all the DLC was already included in the pack I'd be happy enough, not going to pay for it all again! (on top of the game...)

Pretty much the above- despite having played through everything I'd 100% buy this. Would have to assume all DLC would be included??

Kiith

They'd have to include the DLC if they re-release it.

I'm almost finished my current playthrough on the pc. Used a few mods in all three games, to improve the graphics. It's such a brilliant series. Leviathan was decent, but i actually really enjoyed Omega. Was pretty combat heavy, but was fun absolutely tearing through Cerberus.

Overall, while ME1 is probably my favourite from a story point of view, i absolutely love the crew interactions in ME3. Garrus, Wrex and Mordin are absolute legends. James is a bit dull, as is Kaiden, but the rest are pretty good too.

Plus, Liara

Kiith

So i finished my most recent playthrough today, and it was the first time i've gone through the Citadel DLC. I have to say, that was absolutely fantastic. So many brilliant moments, and quite a few times i was in stitches laughing. It was the proper send off for the crew that was missing from the game originally, and it definitely stands up as one of the best DLC's i've played (though as a massive fan of the series, i'm a bit biased).

Also, this has become one of my favourite scenes in the entire series now

Zero-Cool

I never played citadel and kind of raging I didn't. I lost all my saves for the series. Might pick up the series for ps4 if it gets remastered.

degrassinoel

If it's just the decisions from the first 2, get yourself a similar or identical save from masseffectsaves.com

Great site that

Gbear

Started a play-through a few days ago. I've actually only finished the 3 games all the way through twice.

This is the first fem-shep I've tried to finish. Just started ME2.

Mitch Connor

NO further news on the possible remaster, so looks like it isn't happening. disappointing.

SeantheMan

Gbear wrote: »

Started a play-through a few days ago. I've actually only finished the 3 games all the way through twice.

This is the first fem-shep I've tried to finish. Just started ME2.

How's the fem-shep holidng up ?

I've also gone through them twice, once on PC, once of Console...both times I played male shep ...though the 2nd time I was a rebel as opposed to a paragon..and it's MUCH more fun !!

I'll start another playthrough since as I've not been back in a year or 2...was thinking of a fem-shep. Is it good ? , I like to pretend I'm Shepard though...and I can't really if I'm a woman :P

ancapailldorcha

SeantheMan wrote: »

How's the fem-shep holidng up ?

I've also gone through them twice, once on PC, once of Console...both times I played male shep ...though the 2nd time I was a rebel as opposed to a paragon..and it's MUCH more fun !!

I'll start another playthrough since as I've not been back in a year or 2...was thinking of a fem-shep. Is it good ? , I like to pretend I'm Shepard though...and I can't really if I'm a woman :P

It's well worth another playthrough as FemShep. Hale does a really good job with the character. Unfortunately, Bioware didn't add much in the way of gender-specific dialogue but it is still well worth another run, especially if you've not played it in a while.

degrassinoel

Jennifer Hale is a way better voice actress than Mark Meer, he can come across as bland sometimes, Hale just handles it better

ancapailldorcha

degrassinoel wrote: »

Jennifer Hale is a way better voice actress than Mark Meer, he can come across as bland sometimes, Hale just handles it better

Hale's performance seemed a tad over-emotional for a seasoned war veteran in my opinion. I preferred Meer but both did excellent jobs IMO.

Kiith

I've never done a FemShep playthrough. Just seems weird having always played it as MaleShep. Even changing his face feels wrong.

Gbear

SeantheMan wrote: »

How's the fem-shep holidng up ?

I've also gone through them twice, once on PC, once of Console...both times I played male shep ...though the 2nd time I was a rebel as opposed to a paragon..and it's MUCH more fun !!

I'll start another playthrough since as I've not been back in a year or 2...was thinking of a fem-shep. Is it good ? , I like to pretend I'm Shepard though...and I can't really if I'm a woman :P

I finished it and then started another (male this time). It didn't really make much difference to me. In the end, I usually make mostly the same big decisions. They feel like the optimal decisions so I don't see why I'd change.
I find renegade annoying because you're a cu*t, rather than a badass, in most situations.

I've finished 2 and 3 as every character except a Sentinel. Might try him next, but it's annoying only having SMGs and pistols for half of ME2.
ME1 is a bit of a chore at this stage but I'm sure I'll try finishing it on Insanity at some point.

Mostly I've been playing multiplayer again. It hasn't lost it's charm and so long as you play at night, when all the yanks are on, there's usually no problem getting a game, on PC at any rate.
I've picked up pretty much all the weapons now (to lvl I at least). Still have a good few characters missing.

SeantheMan

Gbear wrote: »

I've finished 2 and 3 as every character except a Sentinel. Might try him next, but it's annoying only having SMGs and pistols for half of ME2.

On this note, what's the most fun , worst, and the most OP choices to go with ?

Both my playthroughs I went for a Soldier or something, because I'm boring and like shooting things as opposed to all the abilities.

Gbear

SeantheMan wrote: »

On this note, what's the most fun , worst, and the most OP choices to go with ?

Both my playthroughs I went for a Soldier or something, because I'm boring and like shooting things as opposed to all the abilities.

It doesn't make as much of a difference in 1, although pull, throw, stasis and the likes help with tough enemies like Krogan. Really it's all about shooting stuff so the classes other than Soldier and Infiltrator are relatively weak.

Engineers are really strong in ME2 because nearly all enemies have either armour you can incinerate or shields you can zap.
Vanguards are a lot of fun but you need to learn how to be as aggressive as possible without dying.
Adepts aren't quite as strong in general but they really make mincemeat of the collectors. Warp-throw is great for blasting barriers and throwing them off cliffs.


ME3 really rewards the ability-based classes.

Tech and biotic combos do an unparalleled amount of damage so the ability based classes effectively received a huge buff.

Kiith

I found the Vanguard unbelievably overpowered in ME3. Biotic Charge (with additional time slowdown) mixed with biotic explosions made short work of pretty much any enemy. Also, once i did Omega i got Aria's biotic explosion thing...which was brilliant.

SeantheMan

So coming to the end of ME3 again, for the third time...but I have some questions as certain things happened in this playthrough that didn't previously happen.

(Also...I forgot you have to play MP for galactic readiness....what a drain that is)

Anyways, I'm not putting spoiler tags as the game is old and popular enough at this stage not to warrant them.

On my playthrough this time....I was forced to choose between Tali or Legion.
Now, in the previous 2 times I completed the game I was able to save both....so I checked online..and because I didn't have certain points...such as ..Tali was exiled, and something else....so I would be forced to choose....I was pretty annoyed that I had to choose...as I pretty much hate the Quarians except for Tali...and I really like Legion, but I still chose the fleshys after seeing Tali kill herself....I restarted and replayed the mission about 5 times trying to be able to save both.

My questions are......how does the whole scenario for the Geth / Quarians play out if Tali was already dead, Legion was already dead...or both (assuming they die at the end of ME2)

Likewise, what happens with regards to Mordin and the Genophage mission if he is dead from ME2, is there even a mission , is it possible to cure it ?

This will be the first time I've seen the ending of the game since they changed it after all the initial complaints, so I'm hoping it's going to be decent...or does it still boil down to different colours :P

Antar Bolaeisk

The scenarios essentially play out the same, just your chances of a particular outcome are weighed against whatever relevant previous choices you made.

All that happens where characters have died is you get a different (but similar) character. It's one of the reasons I hate replaying these types of games as it really dispels the sense of having your own story.

(if Mordin is dead you get Not-Mordin, or at least that's what Joker calls him).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKH5CcJVd8c

SeantheMan

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

All that happens where characters have died is you get a different (but similar) character. It's one of the reasons I hate replaying these types of games as it really dispels the sense of having your own story.

(if Mordin is dead you get Not-Mordin, or at least that's what Joker calls him).

That's pretty disappointing....so all the main missions are still there except you have non-characters who you don't give a fiddles about.
I read Wrex is replaced by his brother, Legion by some Legion VI, Tali by Admiral Xen.
Glad I managed to keep mine alive in ME2

shruikan2553

It is quite annoying that nothing really changes. Each character from 2 has a replacement that just shows up if the original is dead. Although Wrex's brother does make sense.

Kiith

It's an almost impossible ask to have completely different scenarios depending on who is still alive though.

Besides, it's not just about what happens that matters. It's how it happens and who it happens to. I can't even imagine playing it through without Mordin, Wrex and the others who can die through the series. Wouldn't have anywhere near as much of an impact if some random Salarian did what Mordin did, or having some random Krogan in place of Wrex.

SeantheMan

Yeah, the impact of their death from ME2 was probably a shocker for whoever had them die....but it's all 1 big disappointment at the end of ME2 if a few of them die.
I think it would have been more emotional if they forced all your characters to survive....so you don't have these plastic clones, and then get the real heroic deaths from them.

Choosing between Tali and Legion was heartbreaking for me.
But if it was Tali or a Legion VI...then I'm gonna choose Tali
If it's Legion or some other Quarian, I'm choosing Legion.