Newcastle United V Liverpool. 5:30pm

Ordinary man

SM01 wrote: »

Tis an awful lot of Utd fans keen to discuss Liverpool in here...

You reap what you sow;)

flahavaj

niallo27 wrote: »

No benny riera and masch were all there start of last season, ill repeat again do you think losing alonso and masch is enough to make liverpool a title contender to a mid table laughing stock as you call it

I've already said there were several factors involved. Keep up son.

Losing the two lads is a huge part of it. The midfield is the most important part of any team, losing players of their calibre and with the ability to complement each other so well would have a profound effect on any club. Not only are their replacements vastly inferior, you also have a ripple effect on other players such as Gerrard having to adapt his role to make up for their absence. Losing such a disciplined defensive midfielder as Masch affects the entire defence and leaves them exposed. He'd have been invaluable in all these away games ye are losing these days.Losing Alonso has a massive effect on the teams ability to keep the ball and the quality of the ball that passes through the midfield. They were also lads who were great in the bigger games. How can you not see this, you must watch them every week?

niallo27

flahavaj wrote: »

I've already said there were several factors involved. Keep up son.

Losing the two lads is a huge part of it. The midfield is the most important part of any team, losing players of their calibre and with the ability to complement each other so well would have a profound effect on any club. Not only are their replacements vastly inferior, you also have a ripple effect on other players such as Gerrard having to adapt his role to make up for their absence. Losing such a disciplined defensive midfielder as Masch affects the entire defence and leaves them exposed. He'd have been invaluable in all these away games ye are losing these days.Losing Alonso has a massive effect on the teams ability to keep the ball and the quality of the ball that passes through the midfield. They were also lads who were great in the bigger games. How can you not see this, you must watch them every week?

You keep saying how do i not see this, i do see it, im fully aware of it, i agree with you, i just think the loss of these two players can cause such a drop in standards, for years we were told we were a one man team, then we were a two man team, neither of these players were Alonso or masch.

IvySlayer

Great to see a Newcastle like the 90s. I miss The Entertainers.

flahavaj

niallo27 wrote: »

You keep saying how do i not see this, i do see it, im fully aware of it, i agree with you, i just think the loss of these two players can cause such a drop in standards, for years we were told we were a one man team, then we were a two man team, neither of these players were Alonso or masch.

And for years you would have argued that ye weren't a two man team no doubt and pointed to quality players like Alonso and Masch. Funny how when they leave the club you suddenly downplay their importance. Take the blinkers off FFS.

To sum up the game. Newcastle got everything but deserved nothing. Liverpool played well imo and deserved to win that game. Skrtell Was a weak link. I haven't read all the thread but I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense saying Liverpool played badly despite they played well over all.

Oh and joey Barton is a thug and should not be on a football field with carroll not much better.

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

To sum up the game. Newcastle got everything but deserved nothing. Liverpool played well imo and deserved to win that game. Skrtell Was a weak link. I haven't read all the thread but I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense saying Liverpool played badly despite they played well over all.

Oh and joey Barton is a thug and should not be on a football field with carroll not much better.

lol

M5

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

To sum up the game. Newcastle got everything but deserved nothing. Liverpool played well imo and deserved to win that game. Skrtell Was a weak link. I haven't read all the thread but I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense saying Liverpool played badly despite they played well over all.

Oh and joey Barton is a thug and should not be on a football field with carroll not much better.

Oh ffs, what a load of bitter sh!te your spouting!

M5

M5 wrote: »

Oh ffs, what a load of bitter sh!te your spouting!

Bitter! Stop your talk! It's the truth. Joey Barton is a criminal and Carroll is a wife beater, but that's beside the point. A blind man could see pool were by far the better team today. I really hope Newcastle go down as they deserve nothing after sacking houghton.

peabutler

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Bitter! Stop your talk! It's the truth. Joey Barton is a criminal and Carroll is a wife beater, but that's beside the point. A blind man could see pool were by far the better team today. I really hope Newcastle go down as they deserve nothing after sacking houghton.

Come on man let's hug it out.

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Bitter! Stop your talk! It's the truth. Joey Barton is a criminal and Carroll is a wife beater, but that's beside the point. A blind man could see pool were by far the better team today. I really hope Newcastle go down as they deserve nothing after sacking houghton.

lol

M5

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Bitter! Stop your talk! It's the truth. Joey Barton is a criminal and Carroll is a wife beater, but that's beside the point. A blind man could see pool were by far the better team today. I really hope Newcastle go down as they deserve nothing after sacking houghton.

Better ay! You scored a flukey deflected goal and defended like clowns. How is that better???

It may be your opinion but your incorrect, and thats the truth

I cant see what Barton being a criminal has to do with it? He was MOTM btw, thought you would like to know! Carroll's girlfriends case was dropped as "there was no realistic chance of getting a conviction", i guess that means he is not a "wife beater"

Your really finding it hard to take aren't you? Well have a look at the table, that will cheer you up.......... oh wait

There is only one blind man here m8, blind and angry

M5

M5 wrote: »

Better ay! You scored a flukey deflected goal and defended like clowns. How is that better???

It may be your opinion but your incorrect, and thats the truth

I cant see what Barton being a criminal has to do with it? He was MOTM btw, thought you would like to know! Carroll's girlfriends case was dropped as "there was no realistic chance of getting a conviction", i guess that means he is not a "wife beater"

Your really finding it hard to take aren't you? Well have a look at the table, that will cheer you up.......... oh wait

There is only one blind man here m8, blind and angry

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

Your friends may all have all had the same opinion, but it definitely wasn't the sane opinion.

Liverpool were muck for large parts today, Newcastle definitely deserved the win IMO.

M5

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Terribly undeserved result, no way spurs deserved a point never mind 3.

Oh go away, "small club" pull the other one!

Poxed with luck, did you see the Liverpool goal? in fact did you see the game?

You and your mates are probably the only people that are saying that? ever heard of positive reinforcement??? Pretty much everyone here and every report i have read, including Liverpool fan sites disagree with you BTW

3 on target and three goals is just Newcastle doing what Liverpool should have done. No one to blame but yourselves!


you seem to have a history of being unable to take a beating^^^^^

shano_88

A+ thread, would recommend to a friend.

the untitled user

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

...

It's not really that hard to put 2 and 2 together and get 4.

Hehe, when you put it like that...

it was a little exaggeration, apologies.

DOC09UNAM

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Your friends may all have all had the same opinion, but it definitely wasn't the sane opinion.

Liverpool were muck for large parts today, Newcastle definitely deserved the win IMO.

Tbh united fans are can kiss my ars.

M5

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Tbh united fans are can kiss my ars.

Wow, good point, seems Liverpool were better, I can see that now!

shano_88

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Tbh united fans are can kiss my ars.

You speak the good english?

jaykay74

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

you'd make a sh!t lawyer with an argument like that

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Tbh united fans are can kiss my ars.

Ahhhhhhh, you're drunk, that explains everything.

LOL @ shano, nice post.

M5

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Ahhhhhhh, you're drunk, that explains everything.

LOL @ shano, nice post.

A day in the pub may just about excuse the preceding drivel

Kess73

argosy2006 wrote: »

How many more games will we lose this season, could be well over ten by the end ,

Well we are now only four losses short of the amount of games we lost last season in the league.

Seven losses with only seventeen games played.:(


As for Newcastle today. I cannot knock them. They showed more fight than I expected, and sent their supporters home happy.

M5

Kess73 wrote: »

Well we are now only four losses short of the amount of games we lost last season in the league.

Seven losses with only seventeen games played.:(


As for Newcastle today. I cannot knock them. They showed more fight than I expected, and sent their supporters home happy.

Rode our luck at times but we have been rode by our luck a few times this season. thought we edged it, third goal put a shine on the result. Cant understand what happened to Liverpool 20 mins into the second half, fell to pieces.

rossie1977

eagle eye wrote: »

You don't know what pain is as a football fan. Try watching Brian Kidd managing your side in the Championship(Division 1 as it was then) and struggling to stay out of the relegation zone.

i follow roscommon, i am well aware of what pain is, i was there when mayo thumped us by 20 two years ago in castlebar, i was there in salthill when galway beat us by 16 year before that

uncle woy is the equivalent of john maughan in my eyes, its quite funny how mayo fans kept telling me at the time that, "it ain't maughans fault, ye just don't have the players"

Kess73

M5 wrote: »

Rode our luck at times but we have been rode by our luck a few times this season. thought we edged it, third goal put a shine on the result. Cant understand what happened to Liverpool 20 mins into the second half, fell to pieces.

I cannot complain too much about the result to be honest. At the end of the day Newcastle put their chances away, and Liverpool did not do the same.

As for the falling apart/defending too deep/not having a clue in the second half. Welcome to something that is becoming all to familar to us Liverpool supporters this season.

d22ontour

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I'd prefer Xavi-Iniesta-Busquetts tbh.

A far far far better midfield trio.

And yet the superest duperest midfield the world has ever seen has been dismantled quite easily by a team of has beens and crocks.Every team is beatable... No Pheer etc... :rolleyes:

DOC09UNAM

d22ontour wrote: »

And yet the superest duperest midfield the world has ever seen has been dismantled quite easily by a team of has beens and crocks.Every team is beatable... No Pheer etc... :rolleyes:

How is that relevant to my post?

markesmith

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

The four texters obviously felt sorry for you. Pool were terrible in the second half, and Newcastle were good for the win, any neutral would tell you that

Raskolnikov

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Oh and joey Barton is a thug and should not be on a football field with carroll not much better.

Even I think both players are nasty pieces of crap, that doesn't mean they can't play football though. Carroll has been brilliant this season, I'd even go as far as saying he's Didier Drogba good and he will certainly go on to stake a claim as an England regular. As for Barton, he's an even more dispicable person, but he is a quality footballer. He's a scrapper, who can actually pass the ball, clearly a top half Premier League footballer.

DOC09UNAM

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Carroll has been brilliant this season, I'd even go as far as saying he's Didier Drogba good

Seriously?

That_Guy

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

To sum up the game. Newcastle got everything but deserved nothing. Liverpool played well imo and deserved to win that game. Skrtell Was a weak link. I haven't read all the thread but I'm sure there is plenty of nonsense saying Liverpool played badly despite they played well over all.

Oh and joey Barton is a thug and should not be on a football field with carroll not much better.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. What a stupid post.

The amount of blinkered posts in here is just ridiculous. Get over it, move on FFS.

D'Agger

As a 'pool fan I'm actually embarassed by some of the shíte spewn on this thread by fellow supporters - Liverpool played well and deserved more than a point up to the point where Nile Ranger came on and changed the complexion of the game completely.

From that point on Newcastle deserved the 3 points imo, Barton was immense and Carroll dominated up front against Skrtel & Kyriagos who were píss poor.

I think what annoys Liverpool fans the most and hurts to say was that our team showed fúck all fighting spirit yesterday - the game began to slip from our grasp and we just let it go there's nothing more to say after that really

Vurnon San Benito

Only got on this thread now but read the first few pages of Newcastle United fans predictions. Surely ye didn't really expect a 0-3 or 1-4 win for Liverpool?!

I certainly didn't, and thought we'd win the game from the off. I know it's easy for me to say that now, but I was on DCUFM earlier in the week saying the exact same thing, that we were good enough to beat 'Pool.

I expected the performance from the likes of Barton & Nolan, very professional.!
Had 5 squids on the Toon too at about 3.45 which wasn't too bad as well.

Next week will a lot tougher though, (no disrespect to LPool fans). Brum are a very organised side, will test our midfield big time.!

Here's hoping.

rossie1977

Doocey wrote: »

Only got on this thread now but read the first few pages of Newcastle United fans predictions. Surely ye didn't really expect a 0-3 or 1-4 win for Liverpool?!

i would imagine those fans were using newcastles recent form as a guide, newcastle hadn't won at home since october and had been beat 3-1 by west brom and 5-1 by bolton recently (a team liverpool beat the week before)

football doesn't work that way of course, atm i would bet on anyone beating liverpool away from home, look at everton played liverpool off the park at goodison weeks ago and haven't won a game since

The Muppet

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

My phone lit up with texts along 4 others watching the game with me all with the sane opinion. I know it's hard for a small club supporter to handle but Newcastle were poxed with luck today. The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

How many on target did liverpool get?

I must have been watching a different match.

monkey9

The Muppet wrote: »

How many on target did liverpool get?

I must have been watching a different match.

You're always watching a different match when it comes to Liverpool, Muppet.

The Muppet

monkey9 wrote: »

You're always watching a different match when it comes to Liverpool, Muppet.

I must get me pair of those blinkers some of ye use when watching them so.:D

monkey9

The Muppet wrote: »

I must get me pair of those blinkers some of ye use when watching them so.:D

Haven't got my blinkers on for yesterday's match though. Wish i did. Newcastle deserved it in the end, no doubts.

BERBA

liverpool are a pity at present

M5

PaulieC wrote: »

As a 'pool fan I'm actually embarassed by some of the shíte spewn on this thread by fellow supporters - Liverpool played well and deserved more than a point up to the point where Nile Ranger came on and changed the complexion of the game completely.

From that point on Newcastle deserved the 3 points imo, Barton was immense and Carroll dominated up front against Skrtel & Kyriagos who were píss poor.

I think what annoys Liverpool fans the most and hurts to say was that our team showed fúck all fighting spirit yesterday - the game began to slip from our grasp and we just let it go there's nothing more to say after that really

Yup, Spot on there m8! Liverpool inexplicably fell apart. The first half was edged by Liverpool. they dominated the first 20 in the second half. Thats when the game should have been wrapped up. They didnt take their chances, Newcastle took theirs. 3-1 harsh on Liverpool. Newcastle just about deserved the win. Your center backs could not handle Ranger.

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

The 3 on target 3 goals is proof enough.

Do you like making up your own stats for the games you watch?

Vurnon San Benito

rossie1977 wrote: »

i would imagine those fans were using newcastles recent form as a guide, newcastle hadn't won at home since october and had been beat 3-1 by west brom and 5-1 by bolton recently (a team liverpool beat the week before)

football doesn't work that way of course, atm i would bet on anyone beating liverpool away from home, look at everton played liverpool off the park at goodison weeks ago and haven't won a game since

Yeah, that's the obvious point to make but look at out record with the 'big' teams so far this season, it's pretty nice to be fair.
I never felt before the whistle that we were going to lose to a Liverpool side with N'Gog up front, Lucas in midfield and Skrtel at the back.

monkey9

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Do you like making up your own stats for the games you watch?

Those stats actually make it look like Liverpool deserved to win.

DOC09UNAM

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Do you like making up your own stats for the games you watch?

Here are the actual match stats.

Newcastle Liverpool

7(3) Shots (on Goal) 21(5)
21 Fouls 13
2 Corner Kicks 5
2 Offsides 3
45% Time of Possession 55%
2 Yellow Cards 1
0 Red Cards 0
4 Saves 0

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

Here are the actual match stats.

Newcastle Liverpool

7(3) Shots (on Goal) 21(5)
21 Fouls 13
2 Corner Kicks 5
2 Offsides 3
45% Time of Possession 55%
2 Yellow Cards 1
0 Red Cards 0
4 Saves 0

And I assume that you just made them up yourself?

Or do you plan on linking anyone to where you got them?

DOC09UNAM

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

And I assume that you just made them up yourself?

Or do you plan on linking anyone to where you got them?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=292994&cc=5739

whats is with united fans and this thread. I wouldn't go within an asses roar of the united thread.

SantryRed

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

And I assume that you just made them up yourself?

Or do you plan on linking anyone to where you got them?

Why don't you link people to where you got yours!

DOC09UNAM

Gianna Lively Misogynist wrote: »

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=292994&cc=5739

whats is with united fans and this thread. I wouldn't go within an asses roar of the united thread.

United fan's not allowed discuss other matches at all no?