Newcastle United V Liverpool. 5:30pm

Jayob10

monkey9 wrote: »

I'd like to see Babel come on for Ngog. His pace along with Torres will be too much for Campbell. I would have started with Babel actually. He'll be brimming with confidence after Monday!

N'Gog is doing more than Torres. People say body language means nowt, but christ Torres has the look of a bloke who isn't interested. Where is the Nando that harried defenders in his first and second season. Its getting on my tits now watching him stand still or throw shapes when the ball isn't played to his feet. Granted he's probably pissed at poor service but make an effort ffs

joe123

A manager where an away win is a rarity, simply shouldnt be in charge of a club like Liverpool. Come the summer the silly fool should be gone so its just a case of bedding in and eduring the rest of this campaign.

Raskolnikov

You wouldn't really fancy Liverpool to get back into this. They've only scored 5 goals in 8 away games all season before today.

Mister men

mosstin wrote: »

Eh? If you think Liverpool deserved something from that first half then you're watching it on the radio.

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

eagle eye

Liverpool very unlucky to be behind, Nolan was clearly offside. And even at that Liverpool should still be ahead with all the possession they enjoyed in that half. Torres has been muck imo, Maxi is not offering much either. And Liverpool seemed more keen to attack down the right side for most of that first half. Imo they should be going down the other side as Newcastle look really weak there.

M5

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

Red tinted glasses, a completely one sided view of the game.

Mister men

joe123 wrote: »

A manager where an away win is a rarity, simply shouldnt be in charge of a club like Liverpool. Come the summer the silly fool should be gone so its just a case of bedding in and eduring the rest of this campaign.

He won't last past January imo. He is totally clueless.

That_Guy

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

Eh we've offered more than your lot. The scoreline reflects that. And that was never a penalty for Maxi. Goal was borderline. Not much in it.

I'm sure you enjoyed the offside goal you scored against Villa on Monday though.

Mister men

M5 wrote: »

Red tinted glasses, a completely one sided view of the game.

Thanks but i know what i've seen. Run along now.

mosstin

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

Well I'm assuming that your link is dead then. Penalty? You are taking the piss right?

M5

Mister men wrote: »

Thanks but i know what i've seen. Run along now.

dont tell me to run along! Dont like what im saying then respond, childish response

Jayob10

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

If we score early in the second half we will win this. This is a poor Newcastle side, Barring the goal they have done nothing either.

I've said it before, Torres needs to give us more, hes a passenger today. In fairness Hodgson can't do much if our main source of goals isn't up for it today. he could substitute him but he'd be slaughtered for that aswell. I'm not a Roy sympathiser either.

This is the same team that beat Villa easily so there is damn all difference in approach, its a case of players not applying themselves.

Limerick Dude

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

Penalty?

His foot was grazed and he hits the ground as if he was shot.

Get real.

th3 s1aught3r

joe123 wrote: »

A manager where an away win is a rarity, simply shouldnt be in charge of a club like Liverpool. Come the summer the silly fool should be gone so its just a case of bedding in and eduring the rest of this campaign.

What about the players ? Surely Hodsgon cannot be blamed for everything wrong with Liverpool

eagle eye

That_Guy wrote: »

Eh we've offered more than your lot. The scoreline reflects that. And that was never a penalty for Maxi. Goal was borderline. Not much in it.

Newcastle have not offered more than Liverpool. Liverpool were by far the better team in the first half. I agree that it was not a penalty for the challenge on Maxi but the goal was clearly offside.

M5

Limerick Dude wrote: »

Penalty?

His foot was grazed and he hits the ground as if he was shot.

Get real.

and he was outside the box....

Mister men

mosstin wrote: »

Well I'm assuming that your link is dead then. Penalty? You are taking the piss right?

Stream is perfect as alway's. 2 euro a month will get you all the perfect football viewing you need.;)
Yes it was a peno as there was contact. Now if you'll excuse me it's time for a cup of tea.

rossie1977

Raskolnikov wrote: »

You wouldn't really fancy Liverpool to get back into this. They've only scored 5 goals in 8 away games all season before today.

this one is done, liverpool haven't got anything not even a draw after conceding the first goal

after today its one win in 30 league matches for woy

Ordinary man

Mister men wrote: »

He won't last past January imo. He is totally clueless.

Should he have made big changes after they won last time? Should he have played babel instead of the superstar torres? How is this his fault. Its just an easy excuse for ye really

M5

eagle eye wrote: »

Newcastle have not offered more than Liverpool. Liverpool were by far the better team in the first half. I agree that it was not a penalty for the challenge on Maxi but the goal was clearly offside.

Could not argue if it was level, cant say Newcastle deserve to be loosing as some are suggesting....

joe123

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

What about the players ? Surely Hodsgon cannot be blamed for everything wrong with Liverpool

No I agree but I think Hodgson is a major part of whats wrong. Meireles is the only player out there thats looking at all decent.

But over Hodgsons entire career his away record is simply shocking.

Mister men

M5 wrote: »

dont tell me to run along! Dont like what im saying then respond, childish response

Your the one seeing things fella.

That_Guy

eagle eye wrote: »

Newcastle have not offered more than Liverpool. Liverpool were by far the better team in the first half. I agree that it was not a penalty for the challenge on Maxi but the goal was clearly offside.

Both teams have been fairly poor but the scoreline is the only thing that matters. Offside or not the goal stands.

Jayob10

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

What about the players ? Surely Hodsgon cannot be blamed for everything wrong with Liverpool

spot on. As ive said, its the same team that beat Villa bar our star striker Torres, who is a passenger today. Not much the manager can do about it if Torres doesnt fancy applying himself today, he could sub him but he'd be slaughtered for it.

everdead.ie

Mister men wrote: »

Stream is perfect as alway's. 2 euro a month will get you all the perfect football viewing you need.;)
Yes it was a peno as there was contact. Now if you'll excuse me it's time for a cup of tea.

Well if your giving that I suppose it should of been a peno the other side when Skertel didn't go for the ball and instead eased Carroll off the ball, neither in my opinion where penaltys

Will I Amnt

Mister men wrote: »

No on the laptop actually. Liverpool have been terrible but Newcastle have offered even less. Should and could be 1-2 to the reds. Ref disallowed a peno most likely because Maxi did a silly dive but there was contact and Newcastle goal offside.

Ha! It's a contact sport he didn't take him down he decided to do that himself

Sideshow Mark

Raskolnikov wrote: »

You wouldn't really fancy Liverpool to get back into this. They've only scored 5 goals in 8 away games all season before today.

And Hodgson has about 5 away wins in the premier league in total. I'm expecting nothing. Don't think I'll even put up a fight when The Missus wants to turn over to the XFactor at 7.

noodler

Newcastle are just about edging it.

The extremes some people can go to to falsify the events on the pitch is crazy.

That_Guy

Mister men wrote: »

Your the one seeing things fella.

Yep. Seeing our team beating yours. And it looks damn good tbh.

joe123

Ordinary man wrote: »

Should he have made big changes after they won last time? Should he have played babel instead of the superstar torres? How is this his fault. Its just an easy excuse for ye really

No offence but that is the comment of someone who is totally clueless about Hodgson and his dismal record. The man simply cant win away.

We are more than capable at home but away we are terrible. Have a look for yourself at hodgsons away record in his 32 years in management. Then come back here and say sorry. :P

M5

Mister men wrote: »

Your the one seeing things fella.

i know i am but what are you???

th3 s1aught3r

joe123 wrote: »

No I agree but I think Hodgson is a major part of whats wrong. Meireles is the only player out there thats looking at all decent.

But over Hodgsons entire career his away record is simply shocking.

You are correct he does have a poor record. I just worry that we will replace him and still be in roughly the same boat if we dont address the real issue which is the performance of most of the players in the squad right now

dfx-

Tiote, Meireles and Ngog probably the best players of a bad 22

That_Guy

2nd half.

HOWAY THE LADS

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Even enough game, Torres is having a stinker, Babel should come on for him.
Goal was onside, imo, but the way some people are going on you'd swear Nolan was 5 yards off, 'clearly offside' me hole.

Nemanja91

That_Guy wrote: »

Yep. Seeing our team beating yours. And it looks damn good tbh.

SNAP :-)

A laboured Torres really hampers us.

He is capable of moment of brilliance though.

I'd haul Kuyt or Ngog off after 60 mins and get Babel on.

mada999

Kuyt off Babel on please...

eagle eye

That_Guy wrote: »

Both teams have been fairly poor but the scoreline is the only thing that matters. Offside or not the goal stands.

Liverpool's attacking players have been poor. Maxi and Torres in particular. They were clearly the better side though in the first half.

And I don't get the last comment. Of course the goal stands but it was clearly offside and shouldn't.

On the balance of play in the first half Liverpool are very unlucky to be behind at the break. They need to make a change and take off one of Maxi and/or Torres and I think if they do that or if those two improve in the second half that Liverpool will come back and win this one.

Ordinary man

joe123 wrote: »

No offence but that is the comment of someone who is totally clueless about Hodgson and his dismal record. The man simply cant win away.

We are more than capable at home but away we are terrible. Have a look for yourself at hodgsons away record in his 32 years in management. Then come back here and say sorry. :P

If a team is any good the same one wins home and away. No tactical surprises needed. Your team is rubbish but its easier to blame the manager. Torres only plays when he's in the big games but rarely is he highlighted.

monkey9

Jayob10 wrote: »

N'Gog is doing more than Torres. People say body language means nowt, but christ Torres has the look of a bloke who isn't interested. Where is the Nando that harried defenders in his first and second season. Its getting on my tits now watching him stand still or throw shapes when the ball isn't played to his feet. Granted he's probably pissed at poor service but make an effort ffs

I know what you're saying (and Ngog has done nothing wrong), but i would just bring on Babel up front and this is exactly the kind of game Torres would score in. He hasn't been at it at all, but just out of nowhere, he can grab one (like Villa away last season).

I have to say, i don't think Liverpool have been as bad as people are making out. We started off slightly the better side. Newcastle have come into it since they scored, but in a way, i think we look more likely of getting a goal.

It's just one of those games. Pretty poor in quality, but fairly open. I will be gutted if we don't score against this Newcastle defense, but i can still see them getting a second. It can just go either way

M5

This is extremely scrappy

Mister men

That_Guy wrote: »

Yep. Seeing our team beating yours. And it looks damn good tbh.

Yeap a football match is 90 minutes lad. See you at the end

eagle eye

baz2009 wrote: »

Even enough game, Torres is having a stinker, Babel should come on for him.
Goal was onside, imo, but the way some people are going on you'd swear Nolan was 5 yards off, 'clearly offside' me hole.

I don't know if you are a Newcastle fan or not but if you are you need to take off the goggles, if you are not then you clearly need to go to specsavers.

That_Guy

Ah bollocks.

mike65

KUYT :eek:

noodler

Thank Christ!

everdead.ie

1-1 Kuyt Krul equailiser

Mister men

Yes have it

M5

Campbell then shocking luck, Campbell should be clearing that