Electronic music and social class

ianuss

BaZmO* wrote: »

Sure most of us are only off the farm a couple of generations. What was it, something like 80% of our population was living on farms during the 60's.

Statistics can be used to be prove anything - 73% of people know that.

Is mise le key

BaZmO* wrote: »

Sure most of us are only off the farm a couple of generations. What was it, something like 80% of our population was living on farms during the 60's.

Well im only a blow in dub anyway, both sides of my clan are country folk & even travellers a few generations back.

BaZmO*

ianuss wrote: »

Statistics can be used to be prove anything - 73% of people know that.

64% of the regular posters here knew that you'd come out with some type of statistical sh1te.

SteveDon

Im a bit confused where i stand, dont think either side of my family has a rich history in educated professions, I lived in a fairly average estate just outside Belfast until i was about 10, then my father hit the big time and his hard work paid off and we moved first to Blackrock then right into the heart of Foxrock in Dublin.

I went to a public and quite shoddy primary school up north then to one of the most expensive private schools around.

Someone please judge me?!

Zascar

I don't think you have to be a doctor/solisitor etc to be a professional - and you certainly don't have to be a professional to be middle class. Classes generally tend to stick together - but professionals certainly don't only hang out only with other professionals - but they would stick to people of their general type. I'd just call middle class someone who is relatively well educated, has a decent career, lives in a non-sh!thole area, speaks properly etc.

BaZmO*

You're a foreigner! And a Middle Class one by all accounts.

Android 666

SteveDon wrote: »

Im a bit confused where i stand, dont think either side of my family has a rich history in educated professions, I lived in a fairly average estate just outside Belfast until i was about 10, then my father hit the big time and his hard work paid off and we moved first to Blackrock then right into the heart of Foxrock in Dublin.

I went to a public and quite shoddy primary school up north then to one of the most expensive private schools around.

Someone please judge me?!

You're a hipster…

Is mise le key

SteveDon wrote: »

Im a bit confused where i stand, dont think either side of my family has a rich history in educated professions, I lived in a fairly average estate just outside Belfast until i was about 10, then my father hit the big time and his hard work paid off and we moved first to Blackrock then right into the heart of Foxrock in Dublin.

I went to a public and quite shoddy primary school up north then to one of the most expensive private schools around.

Someone please judge me?!

A planter :pac::pac::pac:

SteveDon

Android 666 wrote: »

You're a hipster…

Call me what you will, but dont ever call me a hipster! If you saw me on a night out id think youd understand, I never care about my apperance, Zascar can vouch for me on that one!

Android 666

SteveDon wrote: »

Call me what you will, but dont ever call me a hipster! If you saw me on a night out id think youd understand, I never care about my apperance, Zascar can vouch for me on that one!

I knew that would chill you to your (middle class) core

Android 666

Zascar wrote: »

I don't think you have to be a doctor/solisitor etc to be a professional - and you certainly don't have to be a professional to be middle class. Classes generally tend to stick together - but professionals certainly don't only hang out only with other professionals - but they would stick to people of their general type. I'd just call middle class someone who is relatively well educated, has a decent career, lives in a non-sh!thole area, speaks properly etc.

Well if you take to the UK model of definition for the middle class then it would include the above professions along with the likes of managers and directors.

But I don't think we can really use the UK model for definition as we are have, I think, a subtly different class structure here. The bottom of the ladder is the same in both countries but I think above that is slightly more fluid and unstructured in Ireland.

Zascar

SteveDon wrote: »

Im a bit confused where i stand, dont think either side of my family has a rich history in educated professions, I lived in a fairly average estate just outside Belfast until i was about 10, then my father hit the big time and his hard work paid off and we moved first to Blackrock then right into the heart of Foxrock in Dublin.

I went to a public and quite shoddy primary school up north then to one of the most expensive private schools around.

Someone please judge me?!

Haha what posh school did you go to Steve?

SteveDon

Zascar wrote: »

Haha what posh school did you go to Steve?

St Andrews College in Booterstown, pile of ****e of a school, not worth the money

Zascar

Ah you only went to Andrews? lol, I'm not telling you where I went to school

Oh and yes I can vouch for the fact that Steve is not a Hipster.

SteveDon

Zascar wrote: »

lol, I'm not telling you where I went to school .

ah you gotta spill the beans now, if your not gonna say lemmme guess, but give me a clue, i presume it was in Dublin? Was it mixed or an all boys school?

Zascar

I went to a very posh school - St Columbas. My parents are not wealthy but my dad left school at 15 and always wanted to give his kids the best education he could - so sacrificed accordingly. It was a good school though - massive variety of people - and I have to say I still have a lot of great friends from school and we have a good group even 10 years on. However I'm gone 10 years now, and since then the fees have skyrocketed even further. Now it really is only a school for the very wealthy.

Android 666

Jaysus lads, next you'll be telling me you shower regularly and everything…

joker77

Zascar wrote: »

St Columba's.

I went to Ballinteer Community School - about a mile away from Columba's. I can vouch that it was pretty posh - am I right in saying there was no uniform but you had to wear a blazer?

electrogrimey

Working class dad, proper middle class planter mother. What does that make me?

Android 666

electrogrimey wrote: »

Working class dad, proper middle class planter mother. What does that make me?

A middle class ingénue with working class aspirations…

…and a hipster.

DarrenDay

An illegitmate child. A bastard in the eyes of decent society.

electrogrimey

So a middle class illegitmate child, a bastard in the eyes of decent society with working class aspirations…

…and a hipster.


I'm down with that.

Mahogany

I consider myself an educated working class person. I'm as poor as they come and have a low socio-economic status but I consider myself to have an open mind and I don't have a strong accent.