Proud to be irish ?

Pace2008

padma wrote: »

At least there is a store of music engrained in to the Irish psyche if we tap in to it can ease some of the heartache felt. Not much help, but it is a little and can and should teach us that all this was here before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8wcY6u8AEg

Cheers, though for me a night of banging house and techno would do a lot more to turn my frown upside-down.

Mr. Manager

Not even a month since the last one

Hank_Jones

I'm proud to be Irish, not so proud of the state of our country though.
Now that I am at the age of being able to push on and do well, there are very little opportunities....

saywhatyousee

bonerm wrote: »

You didn't say the centre of the Pale. You said 'at least 30km outside the Pale'. As much as culchies would like to believe it the Pale isn't just Dublin City. The Pale goes all over the place from Louth to Meath and Kildare.[/QUOTE
ya from the center of it i hardly meant from the boundry.stop nit picking
the pale goes from dalkey to dundalk and in as far as lexlip then curves slightly and takes the eastern fringes of meath.for example parts of tallaght would not be in the pale and various other dublin suburbs

padma

Pace2008 wrote: »

Cheers, though for me a night of banging house and techno would do a lot more to turn my frown upside-down.

lol

one from the late 80's for the current situation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt9Iqa79vfU&feature=fvw

Latchy

Pyr0 wrote: »

Strangely enough, I've never seen many people of other nationalities openly question their loyalty or pride towards their home country. Do many others do this or is it just an Irish thing? I don't know how many times I've seen this asked in either AH or other forums on boards.

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Not even a month since the last one

AHHH another proud to be Irish thread ......it's groundhog day again .

DrumSteve

"next up, we have Mary from drimnagh.

Howaya Mary, you have a problum with the country?"

"Yeah Joe, it's an absolute disgrace. The gubberment Joe, they keep taking our money and ruining our country. The likes of them trying to take me pension away from me It makes me livid, be the to holy Mary, I don't feel proud to be Irish anymore, and me husband, shure he was shot in 1916 and all"

"Yeah Mary, tell me more, tell me more.... Describe the misery to me. Do it. I love it. It taste the raindrops from a unicorn's mickey. I ****in love it."

"Well, Joe back in my day we had pride to be Irish but not anymore. It's all the forners Joe, coming here and ruining our country and pissin in our swimming pools"

"I tell yeah Mary your dead right the kids..."

"... yeah, Joe it's the kids they have no respect not any more. Back in my day if you were knocked up and had the disgrace of being unmarried you learned the hard way. Same for those cheeky 5 year olds. It was much better back then. Our Society... too much has changed. We need the church back"

"dead right Mary dead right. Stay on the line there I want to get your details. After the break we'll have willie o'dea on to speak to a bunch on idiots who don't understand the concept of humour and syl fox will be telling us how much it will cost and how long it will be. Shure isn't it the Metro North I'm talking about."

jimthemental

bonerm wrote: »

How were you able to arrive at that figure?

The population of Leinster is 2.2 million and vast majority of it lies within 30km of the pale boundary. I'd say the only major urban area that doesn't qualify is Waterford City. There's 1.6 million in the greater Dublin area alone.

Kilkenny too. I don't want to be associated with that sophisticated crowd of west brits!

fakearms123

Its not really until Irish people go abroad or go travelling that they become proud of their nationality, I suppose it takes meeting other people and different cultures to remind people of their heritage, guaranteed the people emigrated won't be embarrassed to be proud of being Irish. Yeah we're sh*t now but we'll get through it, we got through the famine and invasion so we'll be alright

speedboatchase

You can't be 'proud' to be Irish - it's out of your control, you simply are Irish and that's it. I'm not 'proud' I have a nose or that I've ten fingers, I was born that way. I'm only proud of things I've accomplished or actions I've taken. It's nice to be Irish, sure, but that's that imo

Blazer

Proud of what exactly?
We had 800 years of English rule and only a few ppl actually did anything about it while the rest of the populace just kept their heads down.
We had FF in government for the last 15 years or so and people did nothing about it..
We're basically now governed by Europe for the last 30 years and still people do nothing about it..
Our Politicians and Banks has screwed over 4.5 million ppl and will cause approx 20 year hardship for ppl.
So what's there to be proud of?

dizzywizlw

Sc@recrow wrote: »

Proud of what exactly?
We had 800 years of English rule and only a few ppl actually did anything about it while the rest of the populace just kept their heads down.
We had FF in government for the last 15 years or so and people did nothing about it..
We're basically now governed by Europe for the last 30 years and still people do nothing about it..
Our Politicians and Banks has screwed over 4.5 million ppl and will cause approx 20 year hardship for ppl.
So what's there to be proud of?

We have a great ability to invent things to moan about that aren't really the issue at hand....

DrumSteve

dizzywizlw wrote: »

We have a great ability to invent things to moan about that aren't really the issue at hand....

he did have a point.

dizzywizlw

DrumSteve wrote: »

he did have a point.

You think so? A handful of bankers/politicans don't represent what it means to be Irish IMO, maybe that's just me. Similarly, respecting democracy is suddenly something to be ashamed of?

DrumSteve

dizzywizlw wrote: »

You think so? A handful of bankers/politicans don't represent what it means to be Irish IMO, maybe that's just me. Similarly, respecting democracy is suddenly something to be ashamed of?

No but at the same time this handful of politicians found themselves voted into power with these very same people. They banked with these people also.

Respecting democracy is nothing to be ashamed of however the people get the governence that they deserve.

Krusader

Sc@recrow wrote: »

Proud of what exactly?
We had 800 years of English rule and only a few ppl actually did anything about it while the rest of the populace just kept their heads down.
We had FF in government for the last 15 years or so and people did nothing about it..
We're basically now governed by Europe for the last 30 years and still people do nothing about it..
Our Politicians and Banks has screwed over 4.5 million ppl and will cause approx 20 year hardship for ppl.
So what's there to be proud of?

Can we get past this myth that the English ruled us for 800 years, it was the Anglo-Normans, they spoke French and they did what Normans do they assimilated into our culture and spoke our language over time and they only ruled a small part of the country. It wasn't until the differences in religion that the **** hit the fan in this country

dizzywizlw

DrumSteve wrote: »

No but at the same time this handful of politicians found themselves voted into power with these very same people. They banked with these people also.

Respecting democracy is nothing to be ashamed of however the people get the governence that they deserve.

I agree totally, but this is a period of poor governance and accountability, it doesn't represent who we are as a Nation...well at least from the onset of Irish MPs to Haughey...

sensibleken

Crosáidí wrote: »

Can we get past this myth that the English ruled us for 800 years, it was the Anglo-Normans, they spoke French and they did what Normans do they assimilated into our culture and spoke our language over time and they only ruled a small part of the country. It wasn't until the differences in religion that the **** hit the fan in this country

well not quite. poynings law was passed before the reformation.

and although the normans became gaelicised over time they still owned most of the land and occupied the upper echelons of power.

but your right. irish history is far more complicate than 800 years, the famine, 1916, fields of athenry

Krusader

Its a pity we didn't convert to protestantism, in my opinion

Pace2008

Crosáidí wrote: »

Its a pity we didn't convert to protestantism, in my opinion

Aye, the tenets of many forms of Protestantism are certainly far more compatible with the progressive views and lifestyles of the typical a la carte Irish Catholic than the Church’s doctrine.

“Protestant” still carries negative connotations in the minds of many Irish, though, so I don’t see a mass-conversion happening any time soon.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Crosáidí wrote: »

Its a pity we didn't convert to protestantism, in my opinion

Meh... one whip for another...

Buddhism. Now that could have worked.

Krusader

Pace2008 wrote: »

Aye, the tenets of many forms of Protestantism are certainly far more compatible with the progressive views and lifestyles of the typical a la carte Irish Catholic than the Church’s doctrine.

“Protestant” still carries negative connotations in the minds of many Irish, though, so I don’t see a mass-conversion happening any time soon.

Not as many kids would've been buggered either

Krusader

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Meh... one whip for another...

Buddhism. Now that could have worked.

We would be a united country though

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Crosáidí wrote: »

We would be a united country though

We wouldn't even be a country in the first place - we would have transcended nationalism and FF would never have materialised.

Enkidu

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

We wouldn't even be a country in the first place - we would have transcended nationalism and FF would never have materialised.

Yeah, but Buddhism in Northern Europe in 1700 is very unlikely.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Enkidu wrote: »

Yeah, but Buddhism in Northern Europe in 1700 is very unlikely.

I know, I know, but it would have meant for an interesting present.

Irish Guitarist

People know there's a recession. All you have to do is turn on RTE for five minutes and you'll see some miserable git telling us how the country is ruined. I don't see how spending every waking moment talking about debt and the IMF is something that would make you proud.

Are you not interested in anything besides politics and debt? Are you not still interested in television programmes and the small things in life? If not then I don't envy you.

godscop wrote: »

Our children will ask what did we do about the government ? We can answer we went on facebook and went to the pub and voted for mary byrne.

I can honestly say I never once asked my parents who they voted for.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

People know there's a recession. All you have to do is turn on RTE for five minutes and you'll see some miserable git telling us how the country is ruined. I don't see how spending every waking moment talking about debt and the IMF is something that would make you proud.

Are you not interested in anything besides politics and debt? Are you not still interested in television programmes and the small things in life? If not then I don't envy you.



I can honestly say I never once asked my parents who they voted for.

Well, yes, but chances are what we're watching isn't Irish...

AnneFrank

Pace2008 wrote: »

Aye, the tenets of many forms of Protestantism are certainly far more compatible with the progressive views and lifestyles of the typical a la carte Irish Catholic than the Church’s doctrine.

“Protestant” still carries negative connotations in the minds of many Irish, though, so I don’t see a mass-conversion happening any time soon.

why have any religion ?It's all BS anyway,Evolution

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

AnneFrank wrote: »

why have any religion ?It's all BS anyway,Evolution

I think you'll find that religion is a lot more than just a theory of how we got here, but yet non-denominational spirituality all the way.

scientific1982

Very proud to be Irish.

twinytwo

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

"Sons of Roisin...?" New one to me!

I can see your point and agree with some of it, but this idea that an Irishman needs to fight in order to prove himself as both Irish and a man is ridiculous. And some of our culture being washed away is not nessecarily a bad thing. Take for example a complete unwillingness to question those in power that led to massive child abuse scandals and the current economic mess.

everyone should be willing to fight for their country .. that is the problem though most wont. Had it too easy during the tiger. Fighting dosent always mean skull bashing:pac:

When is the average person going to realise we left the ''recession'' months ago??

A recession is three continuous quarters of negative growth.

Also people would want to stop moaning about welfare being cut a few euro.

I'd bet that no more then 1% of the population who moan about it are really in ''trouble''.
Whether they still drink one night a week, smoke or buy branded foods over budget brands(along with any unessential items they could get by without) the vast majority of people who whinge about ''the recession'' are wasting money.

Yet they expect the Government should pay their mortgage and feed them??, be grateful your not on the streets.... go to sunny America or over to England and see how long you last without a job, oh and in American's case try not to get hurt or sick in the mean time.

Be grateful we live in a country where most peoples needs are attended to working or not. Could be living in worse conditions in a 1st world country or PROPERLY struggling in a 3rd world one.

orourkeda

godscop wrote: »

Ok, im irish and i love my country. During the celtic tiger i felt we turned into a greedy, materialistic nation. Now the bubble has burst i think we bury our heads in the sand. Lets worry about the rubberbandits, x factor, sprouts, anything other than the mess we are in. Our children will ask what did we do about the government ? We can answer we went on facebook and went to the pub and voted for mary byrne. I despair of this country and what we have become.




*puts on helmet*

I suppose they'll feel better saying this than admitting thay they voted for the c*nts

orourkeda

gilberto_eire wrote: »

When is the average person going to realise we left the ''recession'' months ago??

A recession is three continuous quarters of negative growth.

Also people would want to stop moaning about welfare being cut a few euro.

I'd bet that no more then 1% of the population who moan about it are really in ''trouble''.
Whether they still drink one night a week, smoke or buy branded foods over budget brands(along with any unessential items they could get by without) the vast majority of people who whinge about ''the recession'' are wasting money.

Yet they expect the Government should pay their mortgage and feed them??, be grateful your not on the streets.... go to sunny America or over to England and see how long you last without a job, oh and in American's case try not to get hurt or sick in the mean time.

Be grateful we live in a country where most peoples needs are attended to working or not. Could be living in worse conditions in a 1st world country or PROPERLY struggling in a 3rd world one.

Before you come on here suggesting dole cuts. Why dont you try living on €186 per week. Then you can come back here and tell the world how easy it is to survive on this amount of money. Anyone can complain about something they know nothing about.

orourkeda

orourkeda wrote: »

Before you come on here suggesting dole cuts. Why dont you try living on €186 per week. Then you can come back here and tell the world how easy it is to survive on this amount of money. Anyone can complain about something they know nothing about.

Before you come on here..... realise you don't have a clue what i do or what i don't.
I am on welfare. But i don't waste money on needless things and go moaning about cuts that still leave us with an over generous welfare system. Go to the states and see how well your looked after... or maybe even just above the border.

We don't have it bad here... far from it!

scientific1982

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Before you come on here..... realise you don't have a clue what i do or what i don't.
I am on welfare. But i don't waste money on needless things and go moaning about cuts that still leave us with an over generous welfare system. Go to the states and see how well your looked after... or maybe even just above the border.

We don't have it bad here... far from it!

Well said. Our dole is actually very generous.

Plumpynutt

as proud to be irish as i am having blue eyes

orourkeda

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Before you come on here..... realise you don't have a clue what i do or what i don't.
I am on welfare. But i don't waste money on needless things and go moaning about cuts that still leave us with an over generous welfare system. Go to the states and see how well your looked after... or maybe even just above the border.

We don't have it bad here... far from it!

If you are happy to have your income cut for something that isn;t your fault then fair enough. Don't expect everyone else to follow. I understand that we don't have it bad.

What the welfare system is like in the U.S is irrelevant to us.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

twinytwo wrote: »

everyone should be willing to fight for their country .. that is the problem though most wont. Had it too easy during the tiger. Fighting dosent always mean skull bashing:pac:

Complete rubbish.

Seriousuly? A bunch of fatcat bankers and an endemically corrupt governemnt? And you want me to ****ing die for them??? You, sir, are out of your gourd.

profitius

godscop wrote: »

Ok, im irish and i love my country. During the celtic tiger i felt we turned into a greedy, materialistic nation. Now the bubble has burst i think we bury our heads in the sand. Lets worry about the rubberbandits, x factor, sprouts, anything other than the mess we are in. Our children will ask what did we do about the government ? We can answer we went on facebook and went to the pub and voted for mary byrne. I despair of this country and what we have become.

*puts on helmet*

Looks like you've offended those who like xfactor etc.... well done!

sandmanporto

you all complained when the celtic tiger was at its height!
nowadays whats the difference, besides the ecomomic shift; what's the difference in you? you still complain!

ilovesleep

We've got fcuking nothing to be proud of. Our country is in a god damn awful mess and we are going to lie down and take it all and fcuking reward all those responsible for getting us here. Unbelievable!

Fitzerb

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Culchies aren't Irish! They're just culchies:mad:

We saw how Irish the Culchies were in 1916,,,, They went into hiding.

Nothing has changed, they will whinge and moan all day looking for someoen to blame

Fitzerb

ilovesleep wrote: »

We've got fcuking nothing to be proud of. Our country is in a god damn awful mess and we are going to lie down and take it all and fcuking reward all those responsible for getting us here. Unbelievable!

I for one am very proud of this Country. We are not even 100 years old as an independent state.
We have a good education system , we have a reasonable health system, Our road infrastructure has improved greatly over the past 20 years, as has our transport systems generally. Yes they could all be improved but you have to live in the real world where it can always be better.
I remember the days when austerity was chipping the ice of the inside of your window to look out to see what the weather was like. Take a walk through any housing estate and look at the number of cars at each house and then tell me the this Country is finished.
We have 14% unemployment, 3% never worked so we are at 11%. That’s 89% working.
I agree the Banks are a total disgrace, the Government has not connected to the people and we have a lot of people who have nothing. But it seems all we want to do is blame someone. It’s time to do what the Irish do, get the sleeves up and get stuck in. Not matter what job you have if everyone makes a little more effort you will make that organisation more productive and that is the only road out of the trouble we are in.

ilovesleep

The irish absolutely disgusts me.

AckwelFoley

Is the question am i proud of being Irish? The annswer is yes.

If the question is am i proud of having to take a loan from europe and the IMF? No.

CantGetNoSleep

There was a poll a few weeks ago showing every country in the eu and how proud people are of coming from there.

Ireland came first, Germany last.

Anyone able to find it out of interest?

de Lehman Bruddars

One Lithuanian said to me:

"I think the reason you Irish are so ugly and insane is because you are so inbred"

The sterotype is true. We are ugly drunken buffoons, but loveably charming and twee with a wee shillelagh and the tam o'shanter and do begorragh and bejaysus boyo, to be sure.

*cringe/shudder*

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fitzerb wrote: »

I for one am very proud of this Country. We are not even 100 years old as an independent state.
We have a good education system , we have a reasonable health system, Our road infrastructure has improved greatly over the past 20 years, as has our transport systems generally. Yes they could all be improved but you have to live in the real world where it can always be better.
I remember the days when austerity was chipping the ice of the inside of your window to look out to see what the weather was like. Take a walk through any housing estate and look at the number of cars at each house and then tell me the this Country is finished.
We have 14% unemployment, 3% never worked so we are at 11%. That’s 89% working.
I agree the Banks are a total disgrace, the Government has not connected to the people and we have a lot of people who have nothing. But it seems all we want to do is blame someone. It’s time to do what the Irish do, get the sleeves up and get stuck in. Not matter what job you have if everyone makes a little more effort you will make that organisation more productive and that is the only road out of the trouble we are in.

You still don't say what it is your proud of. I mean, what exactly does being Irish mean to you?