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Can you leave a 4 year ab initio Bsc (Hons) in your 3rd year with an ordinary degree?

  • 16-12-2010 3:36pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering whether anyone knows whether that is so or not? We have gotten conflicting information from CIT about that. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ng1


    Usually not - unless the BSc. (Hons.) course in question contained an 'embedded award'.

    You will need to check this with the Head of Department.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭marti8


    ng1 wrote: »
    Usually not - unless the BSc. (Hons.) course in question contained an 'embedded award'.

    You will need to check this with the Head of Department.

    Thanks. We were told a year ago it was possible but are now being told it isn't possible - crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ng1


    You really need to check this with the Head of Department.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭marti8


    ng1 wrote: »
    You really need to check this with the Head of Department.

    Yep, we checked - it's not possible according to the Head of Dept. Oh well, it may not come to pass that it would need to be considered as an option - just looking at worst case scenarios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ng1


    In the CIT prospectus, it is explained very clearly to prospective students that students commit to the full four years from the start of the programme in an "ab initio" Honours degree.

    With Bachelor Degree programmes of three-years duration (level 7), there is usually an option to add on another year of study to gain an Honours Degree as well as an “exit option” after two years to gain a Higher Certificate ("embedded award").

    Personally, I am not aware of any Honours Degree in CIT with the option of leaving after three years with a degree. Usually, it is explained very clearly to prospective students that students commit to the full four years from the start of the programme in an "ab initio" Honours degree.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭marti8


    ng1 wrote: »
    In the CIT prospectus, it is explained very clearly to prospective students that students commit to the full four years from the start of the programme in an "ab initio" Honours degree.

    With Bachelor Degree programmes of three-years duration (level 7), there is usually an option to add on another year of study to gain an Honours Degree as well as an “exit option” after two years to gain a Higher Certificate ("embedded award").

    Personally, I am not aware of any Honours Degree in CIT with the option of leaving after three years with a degree. Usually, it is explained very clearly to prospective students that students commit to the full four years from the start of the programme in an "ab initio" Honours degree.

    Is it? You could very well be correct, we checked but didn't see it. What we did do one year ago was email the department and we were at that time told, we still have the email, that early withdrawl from that ab initio course with an award was possible. That is what led to the confusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ng1


    marti8 wrote: »
    Is it? You could very well be correct, we checked but didn't see it.

    The following CIT "ladder" structure has always been very heavily marketed to prospectives students:

    CIT website -> Choose Undergraduate then Courses:
    http://www.cit.ie/courses1

    Page 19: http://www.cit.ie/contentfiles/PDFs/Publications/CIT%20Full%20time%20Handbook%202011w.pdf
    marti8 wrote: »
    What we did do one year ago was email the department and we were at that time told, we still have the email, that early withdrawl from that ab initio course with an award was possible. That is what led to the confusion.

    Have a chat with your Head of Department.

    Maybe there is the option to transfer from the Honours degree programme to a three-year degree programme?

    For example, if you have successfully completed the first year of an Honours degree programme, you have, in all likelihood, completed the same fundamental modules and met the learning outcomes of the first year of a three-year degree programme in the same area. You could then transfer into second year of the three-year degree programme rather than progress to second year of the Honours degree programme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭String


    I think it completly depends on the course and when you started it. When I started my course I was able to do 2 years, 3 years or 4 years. The newest one you can now only do 4 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭marti8


    ng1 wrote: »
    The following CIT "ladder" structure has always been very heavily marketed to prospectives students:

    CIT website -> Choose Undergraduate then Courses:
    http://www.cit.ie/courses1

    Page 19: http://www.cit.ie/contentfiles/PDFs/Publications/CIT%20Full%20time%20Handbook%202011w.pdf



    Have a chat with your Head of Department.

    Maybe there is the option to transfer from the Honours degree programme to a three-year degree programme?

    For example, if you have successfully completed the first year of an Honours degree programme, you have, in all likelihood, completed the same fundamental modules and met the learning outcomes of the first year of a three-year degree programme in the same area. You could then transfer into second year of the three-year degree programme rather than progress to second year of the Honours degree programme.

    We did speak with the Head of Dept again and one solution was to transfer to another course and simply do some credits for that in 2011 and graduate in 2011 but from a different course - not what we wanted so we'll leave it and stick with the Honours degree. Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭marti8


    DrMorphine wrote: »
    I think it completly depends on the course and when you started it. When I started my course I was able to do 2 years, 3 years or 4 years. The newest one you can now only do 4 years.

    The course was begun in 2007. Ah, nevermind - of course having an Honours degree rather than an ordinary degree is always better in any case.


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