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"Climate Change" aka Global Warming in the media

  • 16-12-2010 10:42pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭


    Tomorrow they'll be claiming that the severe cold snap is due to human made global warming.... by they I mean the supposed top scientists (who get paid a lot of money to prove the myth)... where do we draw the line folks? They've built a mini economy out of it worth billions... it is even political suicide these days to deny it (even though it isn't proven) and it is bad science... media outlets employ so called "Global Warming Correspondents", you think they are going to deny it... not a hope! One day we'll all fry, the next we'l freeze to death! Make up your minds! and don't give me bs about a chunk of ice breaking off


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Wha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I was going to draw the line here, but changed my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    It's a loada bollocks.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Tomorrow they'll be claiming that the severe cold snap is due to human made global warming.... by they I mean the supposed top scientists (who get paid a lot of money to prove the myth)... where do we draw the line folks? They've built a mini economy out of it worth billions... it is even political suicide these days to deny it (even though it isn't proven) and it is bad science... media outlets employ so called "Global Warming Correspondents", you think they are going to deny it... not a hope! One day we'll all fry, the next we'l freeze to death! Make up your minds! and don't give me bs about a chunk of ice breaking off

    I find your ideas fascinating, and would very much like to subscribe to your (scientific) newsletter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Look up the meaning of climate and weather.

    Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, rainfall, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elements in a given region over a long period of time. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these same elements and their variations over periods up to two weeks.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Where has the Gulf Stream (which usually protects our little island from this sort of weather) gone?


    Thats a change in the planets climate. Or "Climate Change" for short.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭baltimore sun


    even though it isn't proven

    please show some credible proof that it hasn't been proven coz there's plenty of credible proof that it has been proven


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Look up the meaning of climate and weather.

    Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, rainfall, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elements in a given region over a long period of time. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these same elements and their variations over periods up to two weeks.

    All the stats indicate a natural cycle since 1500... also, CO2 is not the cause as the oceans give out 75%, 15% by plants and animals and a meager 0.1% by human consumption of fossil fuels... please re-evaluate your position... (oh wait you can't... because you'll loose your careers :O)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Skepticism re climate change I can understand; anger/paranoia re it to the point of attacking those who disagree... comes across as fear of it being true/denial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    All the stats indicate a natural cycle since 1500... also, CO2 is not the cause as the oceans give out 75%, 15% by plants and animals and a meager 0.1% by human consumption of fossil fuels... please re-evaluate your position... (oh wait you can't... because you'll loose your careers :O)

    Whether it's a natural cycle or a man-made phenomenon is irrelevant. We are experiencing climate change.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Trying to prove or disprove climate change because it's suddenly a bit cold is sort of missing the big picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    DeVore wrote: »
    Where has the Gulf Stream (which usually protects our little island from this sort of weather) gone?


    Thats a change in the planets climate. Or "Climate Change" for short.

    DeV.

    Gulf Stream is still there... actually OMFG, has boards also recognised the myth? Let us know please Dev on the boards.ie position...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Dudess wrote: »
    Skepticism re climate change I can understand; anger/paranoia re it to the point of attacking those who disagree... comes across as fear of it being true/denial.

    But this is what the Global Warming people do... intimidate and threathen... if you deny it


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    But this is what the Global Warming people do... intimidate and threathen... if you deny it
    Example please.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Gulf Stream is still there... actually OMFG, has boards also recognised the myth? Let us know please Dev on the boards.ie position...

    We dont have a position. We're a platform for discussion. We're discussing it. You started this discussion.


    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Macha wrote: »
    Example please.

    There are many examples... I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting some... look it up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    DeVore wrote: »
    We dont have a position. We're a platform for discussion. We're discussing it. You started this discussion.


    DeV.

    Really, because you came across as one of the anti everything brigade... do you agree the west should be telling people in the third world how to make power environmentally friendly? Who the **** are we to be telling them that! Thats the UN TOP SCIENTISTS FOR YA


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,087 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    All the stats indicate a natural cycle since 1500... also, CO2 is not the cause as the oceans give out 75%, 15% by plants and animals and a meager 0.1% by human consumption of fossil fuels... please re-evaluate your position... (oh wait you can't... because you'll loose your careers :O)

    Are they secret stats?
    There are many examples... I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting some... look it up!

    I just Googled 'secret stats' came up blank on climate change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Really, because you came across as one of the anti everything brigade... do you agree the west should be telling people in the third world how to make power environmentally friendly? Who the **** are we to be telling them that! Thats the UN TOP SCIENTISTS FOR YA

    Is the new thing to get liquored up and start ranting about the UN TOP SCIENTISTS?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    marco_polo wrote: »
    Are they secret stats?



    I just Googled 'secret stats' nothing came up on blank climate change.

    TRY HARDER HOMER :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Is the new thing to get liquored up and start ranting about the UN TOP SCIENTISTS?

    That would be a yes:
    TRY HARDER HOMER :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    There are many examples... I don't want to insult your intelligence by suggesting some... look it up!

    You're insulting my intelligence by expecting me to do your work for you. If there are so many examples, it shouldn't take you too long (If I had €1 for every time I've written a version of that sentence..)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    Is the new thing to get liquored up and start ranting about the UN TOP SCIENTISTS?

    It has nothing to do with booze, and loads of them top scientists left the UN, because they couldn't subsribe to it... bad science... in protest, but there names are still their....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Really, because you came across as one of the anti everything brigade... do you agree the west should be telling people in the third world how to make power environmentally friendly? Who the **** are we to be telling them that! Thats the UN TOP SCIENTISTS FOR YA

    Can we tell em to learn from our mistakes?
    Is it wrong to give em a head start on sustainable power?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    It has nothing to do with booze, and loads of them top scientists left the UN, because they couldn't subsribe to it... bad science... in protest, but there names are still there....

    You seem very exercised without any evidence

    If some guy came onto a website and started shouting about how Cold Fusion was being suppressed by the Zionist media conspiracy, I'd give him about as much time.

    Unless he had the protocols of the elders of zion with him of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Macha wrote: »
    You're insulting my intelligence by expecting me to do your work for you. If there are so many examples, it shouldn't take you too long (If I had €1 for every time I've written a version of that sentence..)

    Look, I feel I have nothing whatsoever to prove... neither do the Global Warming brigade because it is all bull****... but here is one link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3IhIUBghPc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    red menace wrote: »
    Can we tell em to learn from our mistakes?
    Is it wrong to give em a head start on sustainable power?

    You want to stifle 3rd world development because of myth?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Look, I feel I have nothing whatsoever to prove... neither do the Global Warming brigade because it is all bull****... but here is one link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3IhIUBghPc
    You want to prove that climate change is "bull***" and seem to think a Youtube link is sufficient evidence...oh dear...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Macha wrote: »
    You want to prove that climate change is "bull***" and seem to think a Youtube link is sufficient evidence...oh dear...

    No, I couldn't be bothered trying to prove something that does not exist....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    You want to stifle 3rd world development because of myth?


    Nope just use whats available readily.. Solar, wind, water
    Maybe the 3rd world can become the 1st world in renewable energy research

    Who are them top UN scientists I would be interested in reading up on them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No, I couldn't be bothered trying to prove something that does not exist....

    What exactly is it that you don't think is happening? Is it just that you don't agree that humans have an impact on the climate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    What exactly is it that you don't think is happening? Is it just that you don't agree that humans have an impact on the climate?

    Yes, I do not agree that humans are having an effect on the climate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Yes, I do not agree that humans are having an effect on the climate

    What would you accept as evidence of the contrary?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    What would you accept as evidence of the contrary?

    Nothing, because it is no doubt compiled by the media or bull**** scientists who like thier funding :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Nothing, because it is no doubt compiled by the media or bull**** scientists who like thier funding :)

    Fair play. You seem open to the possibility that you might learn something from a debate on boards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Nothing, because it is no doubt compiled by the media or bull**** scientists who like thier funding :)

    Yes. All the money goes to the scientists who prove there is global warming. Nothing comes from the Oil companies to the scientists who attempt to prove there isn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    It's SUN SPOTS!!!

    Solar acne, so it is. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    It's SUN SPOTS!!!

    Solar acne, so it is. :cool:

    It's not man made global warming, thats for sure :)


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    It's SUN SPOTS!!!

    Solar acne, so it is. :cool:

    I was just about to say this, aren't we going through a very deep solar minimum these past few years?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    it's all about the money, wait till they tax your farts next you peasants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Man made climate change is a fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    digme wrote: »
    it's all about the money, wait till they tax your farts next you peasants.

    You know the carbon tax and such ****... the billion dollar economy is doing well for governments aint it ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    I believe, climate change is in fact happening, i dont believe humans have a huge impact on it at all tbh, i think it is hyped up for ulterior motives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    bleg wrote: »
    Man made climate change is a fact.

    But it is not fact... and never was, bad science it is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Nothing, because it is no doubt compiled by the media or bull**** scientists who like thier funding :)

    Scientists require funding but you're surely not suggesting that every one of them involved in the field are actively deceiving people to maintain themselves?

    The media buy into everything.. it's up to you whether or not you buy into them. And of course people are making money from it.. that's capitalism. Don't spend your money on stuff if you don't want to.

    At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if it's caused by man or not. The outcome of changing climates doesn't change.. and the money is also going into better understanding what those changes mean and developing ways to deal with it when it does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Scientists require funding but you're surely not suggesting that every one of them involved in the field are actively deceiving people to maintain themselves?

    The media buy into everything.. it's up to you whether or not you buy into them. And of course people are making money from it.. that's capitalism. Don't spend your money on stuff if you don't want to.

    At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if it's caused by man or not. The outcome of changing climates doesn't change.. and the money is also going into better understanding what those changes mean and developing ways to deal with it when it does.

    This is a serious matter, whether I buy a paper or not is irrelevant, the fact is that the 'scientists' you refer to are overpaid c**nts that will defend their position...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    It's not man made global warming, thats for sure :)

    Have you much proof other than just repeating that it's not nman made?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    red menace wrote: »
    Have you much proof other than just repeating that it's not nman made?

    Have you proof??


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